I recently started playing around with my monk in the arenas, and it is a miserable experience. Every time I run away from the couple of warriors that would like to rage in my face, I'm called a noob runner, a cheater and worse. Keep in mind, this is different from bringing running skills and sprinting around the arena like a nincompoop. I'm actively healing my team and myself, I just choose not to be beat over the head by a hammer.
Did I miss a memo here? It seems I'm universally hated in the arenas because of this. In higher level PVP are the squishies expected to sit still and wait patiently while an angry warrior mauls them? To the people complaining, would you like it if the monks in your PVE party simply ran to the front of every fight and stood still so the monsters could have a fair chance to hit them? Seriously, there is nothing wrong with dodging blows simply by moving around, it's a valid damage reduction tactic so get off my back already.
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Running in arena
Dr Strangelove
Jagflame
This is called kiting, and if you're a monk and aren't an idiot you will most likely need to do this. If warriors complain who cares, they're idiots and next time maybe they'll bring bull's and/or a speed buff.
Big_Iron
It's just people frustrated that they don't know how to catch you. Why should you stand there while they beat you to a bloody pulp? As long as you're doing your job, who cares?
Wrath
Take anything that happens in random arenas with a grain of salt.
The quality of players in the arenas is not so great.
The quality of players in the arenas is not so great.
Akathrielah
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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
I recently started playing around with my monk in the arenas, and it is a miserable experience. Every time I run away from the couple of warriors that would like to rage in my face, I'm called a noob runner, a cheater and worse. Keep in mind, this is different from bringing running skills and sprinting around the arena like a nincompoop. I'm actively healing my team and myself, I just choose not to be beat over the head by a hammer.
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Did I miss a memo here? It seems I'm universally hated in the arenas because of this. In higher level PVP are the squishies expected to sit still and wait patiently while an angry warrior mauls them? To the people complaining, would you like it if the monks in your PVE party simply ran to the front of every fight and stood still so the monsters could have a fair chance to hit them? Seriously, there is nothing wrong with dodging blows simply by moving around, it's a valid damage reduction tactic so get off my back already. *END OF RANT* |
Age
I guess they don't watch observer mode that much do they or they would know better.I would just ignore them or turn gen chat off and keep team on.
G0RD0N77
When i'm in RA, I shut all my chats off, I can care less what they say in RA.
King Of Kings
Honestly kiting is cool with me as i'm a warrior. I don't expect spellcasters to stand still and just let me take them down. My problem is in the early arenas (Ascalon, Yaks) you get Mo/R that bring spellbreaker, dodge, stormchaser, and lightning reflexes. They are simply built to run and thats all they do.
Lord Iowerth
My reply to the "ZOMG WHY R U RUNNIN, NOOB??!!11!" is always
"OMG Why are you chasing? noob chaser ..."
I think that resets their brain for a minute or two.
I too fought a group last night that was all R primaries that storm chaser/dodge/escaped their way around the arena like it was a pinball machine. My teammate would crippling shot, our mes would crippling anguish, and I just spiked 'em down. It still took us a while, and was very annoying.
Oh, then after that we got beat by [Evil] in TA and we had a ragequitter ... GG there, get mad and quit after being beaten by a TOP 10 GUILD.
"OMG Why are you chasing? noob chaser ..."
I think that resets their brain for a minute or two.
I too fought a group last night that was all R primaries that storm chaser/dodge/escaped their way around the arena like it was a pinball machine. My teammate would crippling shot, our mes would crippling anguish, and I just spiked 'em down. It still took us a while, and was very annoying.
Oh, then after that we got beat by [Evil] in TA and we had a ragequitter ... GG there, get mad and quit after being beaten by a TOP 10 GUILD.
Sekkira
I'll rage at a mesmer using crippling anguish and conjure phantasm on me while playing a warrior while they run away and spam the skills. I'll then quit because it's useless even trying to get close.
Mesmers always have the lovely knowledge that when the opposing team starts laying into them or swearing their head off at them, they're doing their job properly.
Mesmers always have the lovely knowledge that when the opposing team starts laying into them or swearing their head off at them, they're doing their job properly.
Ctb
Running is one of the many things that is wrong with the game.
To clarify: only an idiot would expect a spellcaster to merely stand still while getting beat, but the fact that the only real option for a spellcaster is to job around like a doofus, unless they're one of the morons who just sits there like a rock casting prot and regen spells on themself like it's going out of fashion, is a design flaw.
In other words: only an idiot would expect a spellcaster to stand still and get bludgeoned, but only an idiot would confuse pressing the 'r' key and moving the mouse with some sort of battle tactic. It would be nice if there were something better. No, I don't personally have any solutions to suggest.
And, of course, bear in mind that some of these people may also be giving you spillover frustration. RA especially is full of morons who will just run around in circles for no other reason than to drag things out and annoy people.
All that said, if you're a monk and choose to try and run from my warrior, be my guest. If I miss crippling you or knocking you down, I'll just corral you out of range of your teammates, hit you with some nasty degens (barbed bleeding + Phantom Pain + Conjure Phantasm FTW) so you have to focus on yourself, then go whoop the ass of one of your abandoned teammates who is now monkless (and, if he's a warrior, probably panicking and using that oh-so-wonderful-to-see Healing Signet).
To clarify: only an idiot would expect a spellcaster to merely stand still while getting beat, but the fact that the only real option for a spellcaster is to job around like a doofus, unless they're one of the morons who just sits there like a rock casting prot and regen spells on themself like it's going out of fashion, is a design flaw.
In other words: only an idiot would expect a spellcaster to stand still and get bludgeoned, but only an idiot would confuse pressing the 'r' key and moving the mouse with some sort of battle tactic. It would be nice if there were something better. No, I don't personally have any solutions to suggest.
And, of course, bear in mind that some of these people may also be giving you spillover frustration. RA especially is full of morons who will just run around in circles for no other reason than to drag things out and annoy people.
All that said, if you're a monk and choose to try and run from my warrior, be my guest. If I miss crippling you or knocking you down, I'll just corral you out of range of your teammates, hit you with some nasty degens (barbed bleeding + Phantom Pain + Conjure Phantasm FTW) so you have to focus on yourself, then go whoop the ass of one of your abandoned teammates who is now monkless (and, if he's a warrior, probably panicking and using that oh-so-wonderful-to-see Healing Signet).
Phoenix Avenger
to the OP,
You seem to have managed to hit alot of the minority complainers. Most of the people in RA are quite nice. If people complain that you are running, just ignore them. They are the noob for not bringing a counter to the most used tactic in 4v4.
You seem to have managed to hit alot of the minority complainers. Most of the people in RA are quite nice. If people complain that you are running, just ignore them. They are the noob for not bringing a counter to the most used tactic in 4v4.
makosi
You'd be a 'zomgwtf n00b' if you stood there and got hacked and slashed around by a warrior. There' no shame in kiting and if warriors choose not to bring knockdowns or running skills that's their problem. Take NOTHING to heart - otherwise you'd get yourself on a real downer. You're the stronger person for going in to those arenas as a monk - i'm sure its not hard to cast mending, use sever arterty and gash.... lather, rinse, repeat.
Vahn Roi
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Mesmers always have the lovely knowledge that when the opposing team starts laying into them or swearing their head off at them, they're doing their job properly.
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Diablo???
"WHAAA! Stop RUNNING you stoopid monk, just stand still and let me kill you!! Whaaaa!"
TheMosesPHD
When you would say "noob runner" in RA, I would think of when your team pwns 3 out of the 4 people, and you're left with one doofus running around wasting both teams time just delaying the inevitable. If they are calling you "noob runner" in any other circumstance then they're just idiots for either stopping or hitting R and running in a straight line while they type out messages to you. If you can, encourage them to keep typing 
so they don't spend as much time trying to cut you off and pound you.
so they don't spend as much time trying to cut you off and pound you.
xuemin
sometimes on my monk, i purposefully stand there and just heal myself because i see that the other team get tunnel vision and start to focus solely on me, leaving them unhindered to start raping them =)
but other times i've been called a noob runner by my own team because apparently me running away from being beaten to a pulp makes it harder for the warrior to come running all the way back to me to beat them up in return x.x
but other times i've been called a noob runner by my own team because apparently me running away from being beaten to a pulp makes it harder for the warrior to come running all the way back to me to beat them up in return x.x
makosi
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Originally Posted by Diablo™
"WHAAA! Stop RUNNING you stoopid monk, just stand still and let me kill you!! Whaaaa!"
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TheMosesPHD
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Originally Posted by xuemin
sometimes on my monk, i purposefully stand there and just heal myself because i see that the other team get tunnel vision and start to focus solely on me, leaving them unhindered to start raping them =)
but other times i've been called a noob runner by my own team because apparently me running away from being beaten to a pulp makes it harder for the warrior to come running all the way back to me to beat them up in return x.x |
Asrial
What I find even MORE funny... is the warrior that chases me to hell and back
Bowman Artemis
Random arenas are full of people who want an excuse, any excuse, to cause trouble and call someone a noob/n00b/nub/n0000000b!!!11~!1!!oneone!!!eleven!!!
Just ignore them, true "n00b runners" are people who come in and only have running skills, who just run and run and run and run for a couple of hours. Strategic kiting/escaping from big sword-weilding, adrenaline-fuelled warrior is called preservation of life. Some people just get annoyed when they are being beaten by the little defenceless monk/mesmer/necromancer/ranger/elementalist.
Just ignore them, true "n00b runners" are people who come in and only have running skills, who just run and run and run and run for a couple of hours. Strategic kiting/escaping from big sword-weilding, adrenaline-fuelled warrior is called preservation of life. Some people just get annoyed when they are being beaten by the little defenceless monk/mesmer/necromancer/ranger/elementalist.
Dark Saga
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Originally Posted by G0RD0N77
When i'm in RA, I shut all my chats off, I can care less what they say in RA.
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TheGuildWarsPenguin
Sprint, bulls strike/charge, Charge FTW
Mr_T_bot
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Sprint, bulls strike/charge, Charge FTW
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It will ony get worse in Factions as Arena Net doubles certain running skills.
Sphinx2k
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Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot
I have Hamstring for runners, but on Ranger was also a monk and had remove condition.
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d3kst3r
When I'm insulted by the enemy team in Random Arenas I often take that as the highest indication that I'm doing a good job (nasty mesmer with lots of annoying hexes).
Wicked Shadow
I see running as a viable tactic when your team still has a chance. However, it's really annoying when one warrior or ranger has survived and they just run around the arena for as long as they can in hopes of the enemy team rage quitting.
When I monk in RA, I generally bring skills that make it to my advantage to stay still while a war pounds on me. Running around trying to spread heals gets pretty inconvenient and it can make my team's job easier if I stay put.
When I monk in RA, I generally bring skills that make it to my advantage to stay still while a war pounds on me. Running around trying to spread heals gets pretty inconvenient and it can make my team's job easier if I stay put.
natuxatu
Actually today was the first day i decided to pvp really and i chose a monk and one of the first things someone said to me is omg *#)@* running noob... i was a noob to pvp ... but at the time he was laying face down on the ground so...
Lady Lozza
Yeah RA sometimes it is nice to go in as a "tank" when monking, let their team descend on you and then your team take them out while they all hit on the monk. You don't need a 55 build to do it either - though I've seen that before, silly wammo still hitting a monk after SoJ goes up and they wonder why they are dying...
But seriously to the OP, kiting is a must for a monk in most arenas. RA is a little different because you can't predict what team you will be in or what team you will be facing, but nonetheless there is nothing wrong with not letting a wammo beat you silly.
But seriously to the OP, kiting is a must for a monk in most arenas. RA is a little different because you can't predict what team you will be in or what team you will be facing, but nonetheless there is nothing wrong with not letting a wammo beat you silly.
Manic Smile
3 warriors + 1 ranger all running skills with rez and healing
xuemin
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Originally Posted by Bowman Artemis
Random arenas are full of people who want an excuse, any excuse, to cause trouble and call someone a noob/n00b/nub/n0000000b!!!11~!1!!oneone!!!eleven!!!
Just ignore them, true "n00b runners" are people who come in and only have running skills, who just run and run and run and run for a couple of hours. |
d3kst3r
Letting runners get away with griefing means that your team wasn't well prepared to counter it. There are heaps of anti runner skills.
Hamstring, Cripple, Pin Down, Crippling Anguish, Imagined Burden, Traps etc. and every single HP degen spell in the game.
Hamstring, Cripple, Pin Down, Crippling Anguish, Imagined Burden, Traps etc. and every single HP degen spell in the game.
Dove_Song
the chat is blacked out due to all the curse words being shouted at me for the duration of this match ^^
Ctb
I can't imagine not having something better do with my two and half hours than run around in circles or sit there swearing at somebody running around in circles...