According to new Prima guide...
QoH
so far the only challenge in pve was getting fow armor, now it looks like gone
SparhawkJC
pve wasn't a challenge in the first place
EDIT: Unless you're a mesmer.
EDIT: Unless you're a mesmer.
Skuld
I assume you have completed the FoW and UW? And why is mesmer any harder than anything else..
Rayea
actually, its not a chalanege if your a wamo.
if your anything but a monk or warrior primary, its harder...
i found its easier if your a mesmer now that if your a ele primary and gods help you if your a necro ANYTHING, unless your a ss or mm totally.
ok, so all the folks that say you shoud play for Months to even qualify to get the 15k and special armours over that side....
the folks that are happier that these craftable items are now sort of salvageable on This side...
now then, kiddies.....dont forget, they arent going to salvage EASILY..or maybe i should say OFTEN.
just because something is salvageable, dosent meen your going to get it each and every time.
theres no garentee whatsoever that each time someone uses even an Expert salvage kit, that these items are going to be salvaged.
so, if you happen to be playing and yu want to go to Fow, but cant, you can now go farm some critters that drop these items and *perhaps* get a few salvaged items from their drops.....
Perhaps, people.......PEHAPS
if your anything but a monk or warrior primary, its harder...
i found its easier if your a mesmer now that if your a ele primary and gods help you if your a necro ANYTHING, unless your a ss or mm totally.
ok, so all the folks that say you shoud play for Months to even qualify to get the 15k and special armours over that side....
the folks that are happier that these craftable items are now sort of salvageable on This side...
now then, kiddies.....dont forget, they arent going to salvage EASILY..or maybe i should say OFTEN.
just because something is salvageable, dosent meen your going to get it each and every time.
theres no garentee whatsoever that each time someone uses even an Expert salvage kit, that these items are going to be salvaged.
so, if you happen to be playing and yu want to go to Fow, but cant, you can now go farm some critters that drop these items and *perhaps* get a few salvaged items from their drops.....
Perhaps, people.......PEHAPS
Poison Ivy
I'm not complaining.
I feel good from standing out of the crowd, beliving that FoW will be easier to get, and sold every Ruby and Sapphire whenever it reached 6k from the trader.
i tried so hard
and got so far
but in the end
it doesnt even matter
i had to fall
to lose it all
but in the end
it doesnt even matter
- Linkin Park
I feel good from standing out of the crowd, beliving that FoW will be easier to get, and sold every Ruby and Sapphire whenever it reached 6k from the trader.
i tried so hard
and got so far
but in the end
it doesnt even matter
i had to fall
to lose it all
but in the end
it doesnt even matter
- Linkin Park
SparhawkJC
If you must ask, I've trapped the whole underworld with my ranger and cleared FoW with my warrior.
I said it was harder for mesmers mainly because of their difficulty getting into PUG's to complete the story (outside of the Fire Isles), and that no farming group required/want them in the set builds so they can't get gold easily.
I said it was harder for mesmers mainly because of their difficulty getting into PUG's to complete the story (outside of the Fire Isles), and that no farming group required/want them in the set builds so they can't get gold easily.
Zaxan Razor
Sigh..i'll post in caps then:
LOOKS AT THE DROPS! THEY ARE PROPHECIES DROPS! WHY WOULD THERE BE JADE GORGETS IN CANTHA?
SECONDLY, THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME INFORMATION AS CHAPTER 1! THIS MEANS:
THE PRICE OF ECTO'S WILL NOT DROP, BECAUSE IT WILL STILL BE 0.5% OF GETTING AN ECTO FROM ANY OF THE ITEMS LISTED!
LOOKS AT THE DROPS! THEY ARE PROPHECIES DROPS! WHY WOULD THERE BE JADE GORGETS IN CANTHA?
SECONDLY, THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME INFORMATION AS CHAPTER 1! THIS MEANS:
THE PRICE OF ECTO'S WILL NOT DROP, BECAUSE IT WILL STILL BE 0.5% OF GETTING AN ECTO FROM ANY OF THE ITEMS LISTED!
Sidra
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Whats your point, really? Certain items and armors are meant to be extremely rare. It doesn't mean you have to play 24/7 to get it. Maybe you'll get it in a drop... that's the whole point of a RARE drop being RARE. You want something rare, go farm to try and find it, or pay for it with money you SAVE. I could make plenty of Gold to buy a rare item by only playing 4-5 hours a night after work and sticking it right in storage.
I find that extremely insulting. What you're implying is that FoW armor is not earned, which is damn well is. A few 14 year olds spend their paper-route money on eBay gold to fund their FoW armor.. doesn't mean everyone did, or even most. You must be one of those that spout off "Nice FoW armor, eBayer!!" in Local Chat.. I think you need to re-evaluate your points and logic before responding. And I say that with the points I made above, not to flame you. |
I happen to be 14, and spend at least 15 minutes a day e-mail spamming the gold sellers :-D the responses that come back are quite funny.
But I digress.
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I’m not saying people don’t have the right to have something, its just you guys are complaining about not being able to get it. Its a game, its about challenge and making things hard to get, otherwise there is no reason to buy the damn game.
This is the problem with gamers today; they can’t handle games even though they are easier now then they were back in the day. If you can’t do something, practice till you can, work at it. And guess what? I worked for my money and bought this game to, i deserve the right to also enjoy the game. I can get enough for fissure armor, but now its pointless to get if people like you who barely did anything for it also get it. You want fissure armor, then start farming for gold, if you don’t want to take the time to earn it, then there is no reason why you should get it. I have no problem with casual gamers for the most part, but it does bug me when they complain and ruin the game for real gamers. If you don’t like the game how it was, don’t play it. If you couldn’t get an item, then you don’t deserve too. And saying most of the people with fissure armor eBay it just shows your ignorance. I maybe play guild wars 3 nights a week, and guess what; it took less then 2 months to get enough to get fissure armor. Are you gunna complain next that fame is too hard to get, so then every one has rank 12? If you can’t earn an item yourself, then you don’t deserve to have it. Don’t like it? Quit video games, or stop complaining about it. |
Nobody here is complaining. Keep your shirt on. By the way, you're 21. What are you talking about with this "gamers today" thing? And it's not that the casual gamer "barely does anything" it's that they often "can't play as much because of time constraints". You seem to confuse the two and fuse them into one excuse for "being a noob". I also wonder at this section of your post:
"Are you gunna complain next that fame is too hard to get, so then every one has rank 12? If you can’t earn an item yourself, then you don’t deserve to have it. Don’t like it? Quit video games, or stop complaining about it."
Nobody here has complained about not being able to get fissure armor. People are just pointing out that the casual gamer (who I think, really does outnumber the hardcore gamer) has a bit of an easier time getting FoW armor IF THIS UPDATE IS REAL. Nobody even said anything about its legitimacy! And even if it is real, don't you think that after enough people start clamboring around to salvage ectos from anything they can, that the drop rates will go down that much more and make ectos almost just as hard to get again?
Yeah. I'm done for this post. /response to rant.
beanerman_99
As a causal gamer I don't have, nor do I want FoW armor. I just don't like the looks of it
I do however like some of the new Factions armor. I, even as a casual gamer, would like the armor to be a challenge to get. That way I feel like I have really accomplished something major if I get it and its not just handed to me. Take the Collector's Armor in Prophecies; I could have sat in town and spammed to buy the items to give to the collector, BUT I DIDN"T!! I went out and killed and killed and killed some more until I got enough of the item. When I finally got my entire Collectors set for my ele I was so proud of what I had accomplished. So for me, its MUCH more rewarding to work for something myself, even if it takes weeks and weeks.
So I am not trying to sound rude but I think that FoW and new Factions armor should be hard to get. REMEMBER this armor is a luxury item, NOT a necessity!! It has the same stats as Droks armor which is easier to get and muuuch more affordable. The high end stuff IS for those who play more. It is for THEM to have cause they spend hours and hours of playing and should be able to do something with all that time spent. Plus these armors are HUGE gold sinks of the game and really does keep the economy in check.
Thats my 2 cents from a causual gamer
As for the guide...I would rather explore the new areas with out maps to lead me. I LOVE just trying to clear my map and finding some out of the way outpost to rest up, kinda like Ice Tooth Cave, I would have never found it had I not been trying to clear the map and see what was out there. So for me the Guide will be a No Buy. I love the sense of everything being new and exploring too much to have it ruined by being told whats out there to find!
HOLY MOLY we get to start playing tomorrow!!!! Can.......not......wait!!
I do however like some of the new Factions armor. I, even as a casual gamer, would like the armor to be a challenge to get. That way I feel like I have really accomplished something major if I get it and its not just handed to me. Take the Collector's Armor in Prophecies; I could have sat in town and spammed to buy the items to give to the collector, BUT I DIDN"T!! I went out and killed and killed and killed some more until I got enough of the item. When I finally got my entire Collectors set for my ele I was so proud of what I had accomplished. So for me, its MUCH more rewarding to work for something myself, even if it takes weeks and weeks. So I am not trying to sound rude but I think that FoW and new Factions armor should be hard to get. REMEMBER this armor is a luxury item, NOT a necessity!! It has the same stats as Droks armor which is easier to get and muuuch more affordable. The high end stuff IS for those who play more. It is for THEM to have cause they spend hours and hours of playing and should be able to do something with all that time spent. Plus these armors are HUGE gold sinks of the game and really does keep the economy in check.
Thats my 2 cents from a causual gamer
As for the guide...I would rather explore the new areas with out maps to lead me. I LOVE just trying to clear my map and finding some out of the way outpost to rest up, kinda like Ice Tooth Cave, I would have never found it had I not been trying to clear the map and see what was out there. So for me the Guide will be a No Buy. I love the sense of everything being new and exploring too much to have it ruined by being told whats out there to find!
HOLY MOLY we get to start playing tomorrow!!!! Can.......not......wait!!
Cowboy Nastyman
most likely the chance of salvaging the high end rare materials will be minute and in the end easier to get them the normal way so dont get so worked up about this just yet
beanerman_99
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most likely the chance of salvaging the high end rare materials will be minute and in the end easier to get them the normal way so dont get so worked up about this just yet
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Well99
The thing to remember is it is a game to have fun.Whether it is 15k armor or that 15/50 Fellblade.Doesnt matter if your a casual player or hardcore whatever trips your trigger.It should be out there for all to expierence.
Last time I checked I had 1580 hrs between all chrs.I have ascended 9 ...deleted 5.Why because I enjoyed starting over.I (Too cheap to buy another acc.) can't see why people are getting so worked up about who has what and how many hours they play to get it.Everyone buys the game to have fun so why not just do that.
Oh as far as back in the day..were you talking about when Pong came out..)
Anyhoo what someone else has or how much gold or all that yadi ya doesnt matter.Play the game and enjoy it.That is why you paid for it ..isnt it.
Last time I checked I had 1580 hrs between all chrs.I have ascended 9 ...deleted 5.Why because I enjoyed starting over.I (Too cheap to buy another acc.) can't see why people are getting so worked up about who has what and how many hours they play to get it.Everyone buys the game to have fun so why not just do that.
Oh as far as back in the day..were you talking about when Pong came out..)
Anyhoo what someone else has or how much gold or all that yadi ya doesnt matter.Play the game and enjoy it.That is why you paid for it ..isnt it.
Dove_Song
You guys do know that this isn't new, right?
Eyes, remains, etc....have always had a chance of giving you ectos.....
it's about a million to one chance....but I've gotten lucky twice over the last year.
I can see where everyone is coming from:
PPl want to be recognized for their accomplishmets.
And up till now there haven't been many ways of that on the PvE side.
Now with the titles though, it's pretty good. I'll have much respect for anyone that captures all 135 elites on one character.
Eyes, remains, etc....have always had a chance of giving you ectos.....
it's about a million to one chance....but I've gotten lucky twice over the last year.
I can see where everyone is coming from:
PPl want to be recognized for their accomplishmets.
And up till now there haven't been many ways of that on the PvE side.
Now with the titles though, it's pretty good. I'll have much respect for anyone that captures all 135 elites on one character.
dark humar
Ah well if ectos are 500 gold soon because of this i just trade in my GW factions for World of warcraft because im not somone that is working 500-600 hours to get something others get in 50 hours because of a stupid update .
TheSonofDarwin
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Ah well if ectos are 500 gold soon because of this i just trade in my GW factions for World of warcraft because im not somone that is working 500-600 hours to get something others get in 50 hours because of a stupid update .
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It's a wee bit early seeings how the first edition said the same thing and it wasn't true to be making quit threats, but noone is stopping ya.
Mordakai
"Oh noooos! I'm like everyone else now! Wahhh, I quit! Game over, man, Game over!"
Well99
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"Oh noooos! I'm like everyone else now! Wahhh, I quit! Game over, man, Game over!"
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Just a note.Checked email and Amazon has sent my Factions..)I imagine most are getting same Email with good news..
CKaz
It is funny this whole thread is ongoing and it's all prophecy drops.
ie ghostly remnants? Try the Ascalon quest. Ran into level 20s trying this ages ago.
I'd be interested in more meaningful faction information than the continuation of, if not bogus, incredibly pointless salvaging efforts. Hadn't planned to get the guide, this clinches
ie ghostly remnants? Try the Ascalon quest. Ran into level 20s trying this ages ago.
I'd be interested in more meaningful faction information than the continuation of, if not bogus, incredibly pointless salvaging efforts. Hadn't planned to get the guide, this clinches
Cherno
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seriously, the point of the armor was for people that had a lot of money and wanted to look diffrent. if it was for everbody, it wouldnt have been placed in a high level area and require such a large amoutn of rare material, if you think other wise, then you are special. |
It isn't that hard to get to the forgemaster, and apart from time, it isn't hard to get ectos and shards.
You are claiming elitism and assuming intentions. Good for anet for wanting to make things more accessible to more people. Did you also think this might be their way of undercutting the farming bots a bit? I don't know that that is true, but it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.
Exoudeous
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"Oh noooos! I'm like everyone else now! Wahhh, I quit! Game over, man, Game over!"
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be a baby all you want, but its truly unfair for people that worked harder to get something, that now someone who barely even puts time into play can get.
Next people are going to complain titles are to hard, and they will lower the reqs or them, again making those also pointless
these things are signs of accomplishments, making them easier for people who barely play cheapens what it is. I don’t really care if you don’t like that, you don’t have the time to spend to get something, I should not have to suffer for that, and neither should all the other people that play the game more then you.
Its not elitism, so don’t even go there. Elitism is going around making fun of people that are anything but the best, and I’m not doing that. I just don’t think its right that some one can get an item I have played for a while to get, fast without even trying.
So far people in this thread are crying elitism and ebaying. This just shows how dumb you are being about the subject, saying that stuff just makes you sound like you are jealous.
Mordakai
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these things are signs of accomplisments, making them easier for people who barely play cheapens what it is. I dont really care if you dont like that, you dont have the time to spend to get soemthing, I shouldt have to suffer for that, and neither should all the other people that play the game more then you
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Take all this with a grain of salt. Until I actually see Ectos drop like Hardened Carapaces, I think everyone's putting the cart before the horse. (in other words, The Sky May Not be Falling)
Lady Erighan
Kinda sucks. Didn't even realize this same information was in the previous Prima guide. I just can't believe they made the same mistake twice; kinda sad really. I hope an undate (or even Factions) will ultimately fix this.
Diablo???
All we have here are speculations. Buf if ectos really do become cheap, I may be slightly dissappointed (as I worked hard for mine), but I'll adapt and come to understand it from the standpoint of casual, "Modest" players. Not Ub3r "Hardcore" farmers like us.... nor those "Lazy" swindling scamming swines that doesn't deserve to wear a fissure, but casual, modest players who just want to enjoy the game. I believe this change in ecto drop (if its true at all...) is a target benefit for these casual, modest players.
Ironically, I bet these modest players are the least concerned about this ecto issue one way or the other.
Ironically, I bet these modest players are the least concerned about this ecto issue one way or the other.
Mordakai
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Ironically, I bet these modest players are the least concerned about this ecto issue one way or the other.
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So, why would Anet change this? More reason to think it won't change...
Zura
ATM FoW armour is the only real way to show what you've achieved in GW:P, but like it’s previously been said this hasn’t been confirmed and even if it is its likely drops will be made quite limited. Also if you do play allot more than socially acceptable you can remember that Anet are bringing in a PvE rating system of some sort, so you can still show how skilled you are even if you don’t want to farm the same area over a few times. Lastly if you're worried about your armour no longer be unique you’ve got to remember that there’s a load more armours coming out and the old ones may well have new looks, there mar also be a Factions version of FoW armour and lastly these are planned to be 6th month games so I can only assumed there will be new look armour with each possibly with there own FoW types. This means there will be endless ways to make you charter look different and after a couple more GW are realised FoW armour will be back to as rare as it was...
Well that’s my thought of the day!
Well that’s my thought of the day!
hunter
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wow, first they made green items with max stats that drop like rain, now they make it posible for any joe shmoe to get fissure armor.
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Mordakai
At the risk of taking this off topic, I'd like to discuss the "whys" of FoW armor and rare weapons and runes.
I personally don't get it. I understand some people like "grind". But, there are plenty of other games where you can grind all day to not only get uber weapons, but get uber levels as well. So, why would "those" people choose Guild Wars?
Second, why does Anet encourage it? If anything, it costs them more than they will make having a few players hogging their servers 24/7 to get Ectos for FoW armor. It's not like Anet's getting paid by the hour. They get paid by copies of Chapters sold, which to me, means they would stick to their mission statement "More Skill, less Grind" to attract mass people. Anet shouldn't need Elitists to have a successful product. And by catering to "those people", isn't Anet turning against their base, the "casual" player?
Now, I understand Sup Runes of Vigor and rare Golds don't unbalance the game. I'm reconciled to the fact that I don't need them (good thing, too). But, just in terms of the business model, I have to wonder: Why keep them rare? What's the point?
As for FoW armor being a "reward" for "conquering" PvE. No, it's just a reward for Farming. A reward for PvE players would be a unique armor set for finishing every quest in the game (the Title of 1,000 quests is a good example, too).
Here's an interesting question: Would there be less or more FoW armor out there if it was a reward for completing every quest? I have no idea, but I would guess, less. Cause you can't Ebay Missions (except by buying accounts, which would only transfer FoW armor, not generate new ones).
I personally don't get it. I understand some people like "grind". But, there are plenty of other games where you can grind all day to not only get uber weapons, but get uber levels as well. So, why would "those" people choose Guild Wars?
Second, why does Anet encourage it? If anything, it costs them more than they will make having a few players hogging their servers 24/7 to get Ectos for FoW armor. It's not like Anet's getting paid by the hour. They get paid by copies of Chapters sold, which to me, means they would stick to their mission statement "More Skill, less Grind" to attract mass people. Anet shouldn't need Elitists to have a successful product. And by catering to "those people", isn't Anet turning against their base, the "casual" player?
Now, I understand Sup Runes of Vigor and rare Golds don't unbalance the game. I'm reconciled to the fact that I don't need them (good thing, too). But, just in terms of the business model, I have to wonder: Why keep them rare? What's the point?
As for FoW armor being a "reward" for "conquering" PvE. No, it's just a reward for Farming. A reward for PvE players would be a unique armor set for finishing every quest in the game (the Title of 1,000 quests is a good example, too).
Here's an interesting question: Would there be less or more FoW armor out there if it was a reward for completing every quest? I have no idea, but I would guess, less. Cause you can't Ebay Missions (except by buying accounts, which would only transfer FoW armor, not generate new ones).
Exoudeous
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Get over yourself hotshot, ebaying your FoW armor doesn't make you special. Neither does staying in front of your comp for 24/7
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And I also said I only play 3 nights a week.
Time to work on your reading comprehension
Loralai
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Get over yourself hotshot, ebaying your FoW armor doesn't make you special. Neither does staying in front of your comp for 24/7
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Chadatog
Why is everyone freaking out about this. We don't even know what the salvage rate from those items will be for the crafting materials (which i'm guessing is going to be a rather small chance). It's not like it's gonna be like getting wooden planks from raven staffs
Mordakai
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I finally splurged and got FOW armor for one character a couple weeks ago, (after almost a year of play), and now find my ignore list in game growing on a daily basis from people just like you, who like to taunt and assume. Please don't make assumptions and generalizations that are completely unfounded.
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Exoudeous
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At the risk of taking the off topic, I'd like to discuss the "whys" of FoW armor and rare weapons and runes.
I personally don't get it. I understand some people like "grind". But, there are plenty of other games where you can grind all day to not only get uber weapons, but get uber levels as well. So, why would "those" people choose Guild Wars? Second, why does Anet encourage it? If anything, it costs them more than they will make having a few players hogging their servers 24/7 to get Ectos for FoW armor. It's not like Anet's getting paid by the hour. They get paid by copies of Chapters sold, which to me, means they would stick to their mission statement "More Skill, less Grind" to attract mass people. Anet shouldn't need Elitists to have a successful product. And by catering to "those people", isn't Anet turning against their base, the "casual" player? Now, I understand Sup Runes of Vigor and rare Golds don't unbalance the game. I'm reconciled to the fact that I don't need them (good thing, too). But, just in terms of the business model, I have to wonder: Why keep them rare? What's the point? |
Im not agaisnt the little guy, there is stuff that needs to be improved for them too, every one deserves the right to play, and have the game fun for them. It doesnt matter if you dont "get" my idea of fun, because you are not me. Its the same thing as people dont get that some people like to pvr only, or pvp only.
My big problem is, if anet starts making rare stuff easier to get, I have less reason to play the game. This is why Im also selective in what games I buy, if the game isnt long and doesnt offer alot to get and do after the main game, then I get bored and stop.
Also, because I dont want to play a game excesively, thats why i dont play a mmo. and the way mmos are structurd, the "uber" items almost become requird by the end of the game, or you are useless. In guild wars, the uber items only look diffrent.
You arnt making any sense by saying this game is for casual players. Im pretty sure online rpgs arnt the "hip" games that all the casual players are on. As fo the Skill vs grind, that even implys that the more hardcore is what the game is for, cause casual players cant compete equally with people that are way better and play more games.
Exoudeous
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Another reason not to get it!
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you should be a guidance counselor at some highschool
GunnerMan1
Well this is not really "news." Ecto can already be salavged from Dark Remains and Residue. But dont go buying it all up as it is about 1/10000 chance it will salavge to ecto. I know a number of people who have done it so it is true. Also rubies have ben dropped ( very rare) outside of places like ToA. I dont think the salaavge rate in factions will be much improved...if so Anet as pissed off a lot of people that spent HUNDREDS of hours saving for fissure and people that have a lot of their gold in ecto instead of gold.
Mordakai
First, thanks for your response. I hope we'll get a good discussion from this, and understand each other a bit more.
And these people who quit, they won't come back and buy the new expansion to get new stuff, and try new professions? Again, from a pure business point, Anet does not need constant players. All they need is for people to buy a new Chapter every 6 months. Now, maybe I've misjudged, and the grinders are a bigger part of GW than I thought. I've been wrong before!
Hmmm, not trying to flame, but asking a serious question: Don't you think that FoW armor and farming runes is just another way of playing "excessively"? Also, while I admit the differences between "uber" items and collector items are slight, it is not "skin only." There are slight advantages to rare Golds.
I believe most people who play GW are casual. By casual, I mean they play a few hours a week. The nature of GW, with no monthly fee, level cap, and ways to get collector items and armor easily tends to attract the casual player.
Maybe Casual players can't compete in serious PvP like a Guild who trains a lot, but frankly, this is a PvE discussion, where any difference in skill is pretty small. Or, do you think you need to be especially skilled to farm ectos or runes? I don't. It just takes time, time I don't have.
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maybe because once there is nothing left to do in the game people quit. and seeing as how anet wants you to stay and buy all the expansions, they need to keep the players happy.
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My big problem is, if anet starts making rare stuff easier to get, I have less reason to play the game. This is why Im also selective in what games I buy, if the game isnt long and doesnt offer alot to get and do after the main game, then I get bored and stop.
Also, because I dont want to play a game excesively, thats why i dont play a mmo. and the way mmos are structurd, the "uber" items almost become requird by the end of the game, or you are useless. In guild wars, the uber items only look diffrent. |
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You arnt making any sense by saying this game is for casual players. Im pretty sure online rpgs arnt the "hip" games that all the casual players are on. As fo the Skill vs grind, that even implys that the more hardcore is what the game is for, cause casual players cant compete equally with people that are way better and play more games.
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Maybe Casual players can't compete in serious PvP like a Guild who trains a lot, but frankly, this is a PvE discussion, where any difference in skill is pretty small. Or, do you think you need to be especially skilled to farm ectos or runes? I don't. It just takes time, time I don't have.
Exoudeous
and you are still not reading how I only play a few nights a week.
in the time since I bought lat launch, Ive gotten enough for ectos and shards, and thats not farming excesivly, I have way more fun doing guild parties in the high level areas and in missions. I dont like farming and I only do it if I need to go buy skills.
Again you are making assumtions, like everyone else that is shouting Ebay this, or elite that. Thats not what I am about. I am about being able to acheive something in the game, and for it to mean something, if every person can do it or have it, then its bores me. Like I said, you dont have to understand that, just like I dont have to understand how you have fun, whats important is that everyone gets what they want out of the game for the most part.
in the time since I bought lat launch, Ive gotten enough for ectos and shards, and thats not farming excesivly, I have way more fun doing guild parties in the high level areas and in missions. I dont like farming and I only do it if I need to go buy skills.
Again you are making assumtions, like everyone else that is shouting Ebay this, or elite that. Thats not what I am about. I am about being able to acheive something in the game, and for it to mean something, if every person can do it or have it, then its bores me. Like I said, you dont have to understand that, just like I dont have to understand how you have fun, whats important is that everyone gets what they want out of the game for the most part.
Sir Mad
I think some people need to understand that the main reason why FoW armor is wanted is because it's rare. Give it to everybody, it will no longer be (rare, and therefore wanted I mean). Just look at droks armors. Some of them objectively have a better look than 15k armors. However, who wants them?
On a side-note I'm pretty surprised by the comments FoW wearers get in-game about ebaying and such! I never had this problem!
EDIT - And by the way, for those who still think that ebaying is the only way to get a FoW armor, let me tell you something: I get 2/3 shards in a 50 mins solo run with my ranger, plus 4k in gold and stuff to sell. An average of 3.5 shards per run then. Use a calculator: to get the 105 shards needed to get FoW, that's 25 hours of gameplay (of course it will be more since you need time to eventually buy shards with the extra gold gotten, breaks, etc). Is it that hard? And is it that hard to get 150 more to buy your ectos or farm UW to get them? Pretending FoWers have to be ebayers is just showing his ignorance.
On a side-note I'm pretty surprised by the comments FoW wearers get in-game about ebaying and such! I never had this problem!
EDIT - And by the way, for those who still think that ebaying is the only way to get a FoW armor, let me tell you something: I get 2/3 shards in a 50 mins solo run with my ranger, plus 4k in gold and stuff to sell. An average of 3.5 shards per run then. Use a calculator: to get the 105 shards needed to get FoW, that's 25 hours of gameplay (of course it will be more since you need time to eventually buy shards with the extra gold gotten, breaks, etc). Is it that hard? And is it that hard to get 150 more to buy your ectos or farm UW to get them? Pretending FoWers have to be ebayers is just showing his ignorance.
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Exoudeous
and you are still not reading how I only play a few nights a week.
in the time since I bought lat launch, Ive gotten enough for ectos and shards, and thats not farming excesivly, I have way more fun doing guild parties in the high level areas and in missions. I dont like farming and I only do it if I need to go buy skills. Again you are making assumtions, like everyone else that is shouting Ebay this, or elite that. Thats not what I am about. I am about being able to acheive something in the game, and for it to mean something, if every person can do it or have it, then its bores me. Like I said, you dont have to understand that, just like I dont have to understand how you have fun, whats important is that everyone gets what they want out of the game for the most part. |
EDIT: Why do you farm to get skills? 1,000 gold should be no problem for someone who has FoW armor...
another EDIT: How many hours would you guess it took you to get FoW armor?
Exoudeous
not really easy, its just after a year of playing and raking up gold and rare items. for the most part, i never really use gold except for when I need to buy skills, ive only bought droks armor, cuse i dont think 15k looks much better, and ive found all my gold/green weapons myself.
Edit: because I dont like taking out of my storage for other things I want to get, when I want a cap sig, I just do 1 quick run or so, and then I have enough. Like I said, I dont really like farming.
Edit: because I dont like taking out of my storage for other things I want to get, when I want a cap sig, I just do 1 quick run or so, and then I have enough. Like I said, I dont really like farming.
Well99
The game is for anyone who buys it.It doesnt matter if your casual or hardcore.If you like 15k or FOW or dont.As far as being a reward I dont agree.
If there is a reward it should go to the people that dont bail on you in a game or dont go AFK.
No way to keep count but those folks should get the reward.
I dont know who taunts those that have FOW because it doesnt really matter if you have it or not.It doesnt impress me or cause me to dislike someone because of it.Thats your fun.More power to you.If you feel you had to work hard to get ...that seems to me to be the problem.I buy games to have fun....oh well...
Note:I farm but it is the discovery that I enjoy....
If there is a reward it should go to the people that dont bail on you in a game or dont go AFK.
No way to keep count but those folks should get the reward.
I dont know who taunts those that have FOW because it doesnt really matter if you have it or not.It doesnt impress me or cause me to dislike someone because of it.Thats your fun.More power to you.If you feel you had to work hard to get ...that seems to me to be the problem.I buy games to have fun....oh well...
Note:I farm but it is the discovery that I enjoy....