Goodbye HoD value :-D
Rayne Nightfyre
It's junk now, so who knows - they may put it back. However, would you really want to put a 20% Enchanting mod on a 'junk' sword? I'm sure the +5 Energy mods won't be too hard to come by in the future.
just call me jimmy
Anyone thought that Anet did this so people who had spent 100's of plat on the HoD sword could try to get some of it back. Seeing as most people with an HoD sword read forums. I find it hard to beleive that +5 energy swords started dropping by accident.
Sidra
They will be very useful I'm sure, now that they seem to have branced out from just the HoD sword to being identifiable by all classes across all weapons.
Stockholm
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Anyone thought that Anet did this so people who had spent 100's of plat on the HoD sword could try to get some of it back. Seeing as most people with an HoD sword read forums. I find it hard to beleive that +5 energy swords started dropping by accident.
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Mustache Mayhem
that's cool.. the +5 energy does help quite a bit in certain builds- and the hod prices were a little high for the average guy
ibex333
With the addition of the new +5 energy upgrade, the HOD sword might become worthless. (If I'm wrong about that, everything below is just rant)
I, like many other people held on to my HOD sword that I crafted when that was still possible, because I knew that this item is truly unique, and is worth at least 300k. I never wanted to sell it, and wouldnt sell it, but at least I knew that I have something that can give me a lot of gold if I suddenly go broke.
Now, I feel like someone STOLE 300k from me. That is hardly fair. They could have at least warned us in advance!
What are you doing to me Anet?
You think this is fair? You think that now I'm finally "equal" with all those who dont have a HOD? What about all those who sold their HODs for 300k+???
Let's delete that amout from their accounts!
PS: All those jealous HOD haters with fiery flame spitters who say HOD sux:
PLEASE, DONT START!
I, like many other people held on to my HOD sword that I crafted when that was still possible, because I knew that this item is truly unique, and is worth at least 300k. I never wanted to sell it, and wouldnt sell it, but at least I knew that I have something that can give me a lot of gold if I suddenly go broke.
Now, I feel like someone STOLE 300k from me. That is hardly fair. They could have at least warned us in advance!
What are you doing to me Anet?
You think this is fair? You think that now I'm finally "equal" with all those who dont have a HOD? What about all those who sold their HODs for 300k+???
Let's delete that amout from their accounts!
PS: All those jealous HOD haters with fiery flame spitters who say HOD sux:
PLEASE, DONT START!
Static
Well, you took a risk in keeping it instead of selling it before the time came. I guess this is your own fault, and if anet warned everyone in advance about the HoD swords, then noone would want to buy them.
Mystical
Couldn't have said it better myself. :/
Hysteria
There were warning signs. The threads about FPE dropping them and also having a new HoD vendor even though he wasn't selling them at that time. I'm still rather suprised the prices didn't start falling after that but instead went up 
I payed attention to the signs and sold mine 2 weeks ago.
I payed attention to the signs and sold mine 2 weeks ago.
cleric
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and they didnt STEAL it, the value dropped
Poison Ivy
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Originally Posted by ibex333
With the addition of the new +5 energy upgrade, the HOD sword might become worthless. (If I'm wrong about that, everything below is just rant)
I, like many other people held on to my HOD sword that I crafted when that was still possible, because I knew that this item is truly unique, and is worth at least 300k. I never wanted to sell it, and wouldnt sell it, but at least I knew that I have something that can give me a lot of gold if I suddenly go broke. Now, I feel like someone STOLE 300k from me. That is hardly fair. They could have at least warned us in advance! What are you doing to me Anet? You think this is fair? You think that now I'm finally "equal" with all those who dont have a HOD? What about all those who sold their HODs for 300k+??? Let's delete that amout from their accounts! PS: All those jealous HOD haters with fiery flame spitters who say HOD sux: PLEASE, DONT START! |
hyro yamaguchi
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Sup Abs has no health penalty.
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I'm very very ashamed of saying this....than indeed you where right...damn....
Forgive my noobishnes please...
Tainek
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With the addition of the new +5 energy upgrade, the HOD sword might become worthless. (If I'm wrong about that, everything below is just rant)
I, like many other people held on to my HOD sword that I crafted when that was still possible, because I knew that this item is truly unique, and is worth at least 300k. I never wanted to sell it, and wouldnt sell it, but at least I knew that I have something that can give me a lot of gold if I suddenly go broke. Now, I feel like someone STOLE 300k from me. That is hardly fair. They could have at least warned us in advance! What are you doing to me Anet? You think this is fair? You think that now I'm finally "equal" with all those who dont have a HOD? What about all those who sold their HODs for 300k+??? Let's delete that amout from their accounts! PS: All those jealous HOD haters with fiery flame spitters who say HOD sux: PLEASE, DONT START! |
ive said it once, i'll say it again
The HoD sword was horrendously unbalanced, not because of the +5 energy mod, it was unbalanced because only the rich could use them. now this adversly affected pvp, you could have an extra +5 energy in your negative set, a hugely unfair advantage. in PvE, well there was no advantage there, a FFS was almost universally better.
You knew this, you knew there was an imbalance. the only way to fix this was to remove them completly, or to add them back in.
you used your money to gain an unfair advantage in PvP,if you spent 300K on a sword, that everybody knew was a balance issue, and didnt expect a nerf down the road, then you really arnt the sharpest tool
shane william
WOOHOO!!! sold mine a few weeks ago for 400k after hearing a few rumors that made it pretty obvious that they were gonna bring em back in faction.
AHHH finally my big break after all this time...
AHHH finally my big break after all this time...
ignis
PvP only. HoD still remains THE shit!
the ones that did drop were a bug.
the ones that did drop were a bug.
Count to Potato
Not as good as 15% -5 energy for pvp!
floplag
#1 you lost nothing if you crafted it. maybe 1K ?
#2 if you used it ever, you got your moneys worth and then some
#3 there has been plenty of warning that this was coming
#2 if you used it ever, you got your moneys worth and then some
#3 there has been plenty of warning that this was coming
Jetdoc
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the ones that did drop were a bug.
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linh
Agreed.
If you bought it from HOD crafter and used it, you lost nothing.
If you bought it from others to use, it still worth its price while you played in Prophecies.
If you bought it to sell for a higher price, that is something you must face in business.
If you bought it from HOD crafter and used it, you lost nothing.
If you bought it from others to use, it still worth its price while you played in Prophecies.
If you bought it to sell for a higher price, that is something you must face in business.
ibex333
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#1 you lost nothing if you crafted it. maybe 1K ?
#2 if you used it ever, you got your moneys worth and then some #3 there has been plenty of warning that this was coming |
2)Ehhh... all i got right now in my stash is a lousy 230k.... never had above that ever
3) Not true
floplag
if it was "yours" to have, you should have sold it, theyve been dumping them left and right for the last few weeks. if you invest in something to make money, its a risk, you need to know when to sell it. you gambled, you lost
ive never had 230 in my storage and never had the chance to craft a HoD or any of the other old high dollar items as i only joined the game about 6 mos ago, so whats your point ?
and im sorry you didnt see the writing on the wall, but to deny the rumors and screenshots that have been floating around for the last few weeks... i guess you missed them, read up more often, what can i say, but yes, it has been expected that this would occur and people have been selling them off at very high rates recently
ive never had 230 in my storage and never had the chance to craft a HoD or any of the other old high dollar items as i only joined the game about 6 mos ago, so whats your point ?
and im sorry you didnt see the writing on the wall, but to deny the rumors and screenshots that have been floating around for the last few weeks... i guess you missed them, read up more often, what can i say, but yes, it has been expected that this would occur and people have been selling them off at very high rates recently
ignis
nothing's gonna happen. HoD will still sell for the same price.
floplag
umm, ignis, theyve already started selling for about 25% value and dropping steadily.
but im really curious what logic you base that on ?
but im really curious what logic you base that on ?
hyro yamaguchi
So...does anyone wants to say some final words or do we bury HoD right now?
ignis
GW economy has already had some price fluctuations. I'd say that the current HoD value drop is temporary. the reason for it is a few very vocal people on this and some other forums that have misinterpreted the official announcement and went screaming aroun that now swords with +5 energy will be dropping in PvE. this is not going to happen, and having said that HoD value will return to it's usual amount soon enough.
Rhuobhe
HoD was great for what it was, but now it sucks for what it is: an ugly, non-max sword with an inherit mod that can be found on max, rare skinned counterparts.
HoD will only have value to collectors, and I'm sure the value that it has to them will be very little.
HoD will only have value to collectors, and I'm sure the value that it has to them will be very little.
floplag
hate ot break it to you, but i saw, and screenshotted, +5 energy swords in PvE last night, would you like to see the SS taken in Lions Arch Dist 1 ?
all current high dollar items are going to suffer from a huge drop with the introduction of the new items.
long term, who knows, but short term, they wont be worth 10-25% thier current rate if that. i saw them already selling for well 70-80K last night.
once the new items flood the market, they will only drop further
fluctuations are one thing, but the introduction of similar items that make the current ones obsolete does not bode well for your reasoning
all current high dollar items are going to suffer from a huge drop with the introduction of the new items.
long term, who knows, but short term, they wont be worth 10-25% thier current rate if that. i saw them already selling for well 70-80K last night.
once the new items flood the market, they will only drop further
fluctuations are one thing, but the introduction of similar items that make the current ones obsolete does not bode well for your reasoning
MCS
I still have my HoD sword and will keep it as a fashion statement to my monks grooveyness.
ANet makes many mistakes, when they put the HoD sword in they didn't expect it to be used on casters, it was a pretty well kept secret for a while, most people had never even heard of it when they removed it. I literally got kicked from groups for using a sword on my monk.
Either way, I think they removed them for a reason in the first place and will do it again, if not, I lose a nonexistant ammount of damage on my attack.
ANet makes many mistakes, when they put the HoD sword in they didn't expect it to be used on casters, it was a pretty well kept secret for a while, most people had never even heard of it when they removed it. I literally got kicked from groups for using a sword on my monk.
Either way, I think they removed them for a reason in the first place and will do it again, if not, I lose a nonexistant ammount of damage on my attack.
ignis
haven't you read the posts on the previous page, floplag? the +5 energy swords that dropped yesterday were a bug. they are not and not going to drop in PvE any more. never. ever.
floplag
a bug according to who ? ive seen no official word from ANet saying this, till then its someones speculation trying to keep thier value. cant balme them, but i highly doubt anet had bugs that bad all across the game
i guess well see soon enough
i guess well see soon enough
ignis
anet had and has bugs much worse than that
floplag
IF this was abig, with all the uproar, dont you think they would have said something by now ?
people have been talking about these +5 energy items ever since the FPE. weve known this was coming ... ANet was silent on the matter, and that spoke volumes.
but if you want to tell yourself this is a bug, you go right ahead, but ANet has always been quick to comment and fix things that affected the economy above all else.. this sure qualifies under that regard.
think what you will, but the screenshots prove you wrong unless you can show me on that confirms it a bug, cause ive seen the items
people have been talking about these +5 energy items ever since the FPE. weve known this was coming ... ANet was silent on the matter, and that spoke volumes.
but if you want to tell yourself this is a bug, you go right ahead, but ANet has always been quick to comment and fix things that affected the economy above all else.. this sure qualifies under that regard.
think what you will, but the screenshots prove you wrong unless you can show me on that confirms it a bug, cause ive seen the items
durand
HAHAHAHAHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHOHOHOHOHO
Always knew HOD SWORD was a shitty sword that will be nerfed for balanced game same as rockmolder 20/20 which will or has already been nerfed
HAHAHA
Always knew HOD SWORD was a shitty sword that will be nerfed for balanced game same as rockmolder 20/20 which will or has already been nerfed
HAHAHA
ignis
for the really slow ones I would like to point out just one line from the game updates page:
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floplag
uh huh, and that means what about the drops considering, as i already told you, i saw them in PvE last nigth and can produce a screenshot ?
and besides, if they put that in PvP only, how fair would that be to those that do both PvP & PvE ? you really think they would do that after they just went out of thier way to balance that with other items ?
look, think what you will, have a good night
and besides, if they put that in PvP only, how fair would that be to those that do both PvP & PvE ? you really think they would do that after they just went out of thier way to balance that with other items ?
look, think what you will, have a good night
MCS
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HAHAHAHAHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHOHOHOHOHO Always knew HOD SWORD was a shitty sword that will be nerfed for balanced game same as rockmolder 20/20 which will or has already been nerfed HAHAHA |
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uh huh, and that means what about the drops considering, as i already told you, i saw them in PvE last nigth and can produce a screenshot ? and besides, if they put that in PvP only, how fair would that be to those that do both PvP & PvE ? you really think they would do that after they just went out of thier way to balance that with other items ? look, think what you will, have a good night |
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WEAPONS, SHIELDS AND FOCUS ITEMS Significantly improved the quality of rare (gold) and uncommon (purple) items. Restricted Vampiric and Zealous weapon components to occur only on rare weapons. Upgraded Sundering weapon components to provide a maximum Armor Penetration of +20% (Chance: 20%). Added weapons with +5 Energy to PvP-Only character creation. Added weapons with +15% damage and -5 Energy to PvP-Only character creation. Added weapons with +15% damage and -10 armor while attacking weapons to PvP-Only character creation. Added new Focus items to PvP-Only character creation. Improved bonuses on wands in the PvP-Only character creation screen to better match what is dropped by monsters. |
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Don Zardeone
ANet never told anyone that +5 energy weapons were dropping.
ANet never told anyone that the booktrick was fixed.
These things are called "undocumented changes".
Where did they say that the +5 energy weapons were a bug?
ANet never told anyone that the booktrick was fixed.
These things are called "undocumented changes".
Where did they say that the +5 energy weapons were a bug?
Fist_of_God
The argument from silence seems to prevail here. I have seen several new threads with the new items in the high end forums of guru. I still have yet to see one for sale, and the topic being a +5 "new" energy sword. Yes, there was one yesterday or the day before(depending when you read this) when this all happened, and I am sure there were more than 2 that dropped yesterday. So that might explain why a few people seem to have them, and others have not seen 1 drop at all. (bug between updates..fixed asap)
If it was a bug that lasted a short time, then was fixed by A-net, this would be a reasonable conclusion. If it wasn't a bug and they are to be so easily found, I fail to see why people have not been spamming these items for top dollar on guru and in LA. However, we shall find out soon enough.
If it was a bug that lasted a short time, then was fixed by A-net, this would be a reasonable conclusion. If it wasn't a bug and they are to be so easily found, I fail to see why people have not been spamming these items for top dollar on guru and in LA. However, we shall find out soon enough.
Balthazar
Can anyone please post up the screenie of it 
Want to save the pic for collection. Thanks a mil!
selber
You can craft weapons (also bows) with +5 energy in factions. 10p each.