Take out greens

sadego

sadego

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Minnesota

Farmers of Woe

W/R

Guild Wars was a lot more fun before the release of greens. Since they came out it has made it a lot easier to get perfect items at small prices and sell items. You can keep them but make there drop ratio a lot lower and maybe make them more expensive than golds...

Sidra

Sidra

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

CT

NITE

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... /notsigned.

Trylo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

[Here] | CKOD

E/R

mass ban of green weapons? ive spent more than 200k on green weapons, some people more, its not gunna happen

Vermilion

Vermilion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

NY

But...
but I <3 my Tanzits Cleaver. :'(

No, I don't care either way really.

Maria The Princess

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

defenetly not signed!!!!!!

out of most players, those who can afford a 100k axe are 99% E-Bayers! and i dont want to get my account banned cuz i wanted a nice looking weapon!

actually for an average GW account, a 30k weapon is expensive, cuz an average account has less then 20k on it

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

So you like the idea of spending 150k on a perfect [nongreen] mod weapon?

/notsigned

Sergent Life Helper

Sergent Life Helper

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Rites of Passage [RP]

E/Mo

/not signed

Lol yes Vahn Roi is right. The perfect gold cost 100k+. Its ridiculous. Greens are just and easy way to get a nice weapons. But I've heard that some golds are better than greens. So if you want a better weapon, get a gold and spead thousands of $$. But if you just want somthing cheap and AFFORDABLE, go with the greens.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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whats ANet gonna do? remove every green weapon which will get them major complaints? Do a super big rollback? think about it....

Skarjak

Skarjak

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/Mo

I agree with the others, green items were a good idea since they allow players to obtain modded items for a small fee compared to what it would cost to buy them. Removing greens is adding grind to the game.

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloody Death
/notsigned

whats ANet gonna do? remove every green weapon which will get them major complaints? Do a super big rollback? think about it....
If by some bizarre miracle they did decide to take greens out of the game, they would probably just discontinue them (like the Rockmolder) rather than actually "removing" them from the game.

Crimzynn

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kinslayer's Blade

W/E

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I really don't think A-net would ever do this, besides, greens look good and give you a cheaper way to get greens ex. the razorstone has the sephis axe skin which are very rare.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vahn Roi
If by some bizarre miracle they did decide to take greens out of the game, they would probably just discontinue them (like the Rockmolder) rather than actually "removing" them from the game.
Wouldnt that lead to green prices sky rocketing... if an offhand ele item like the rockmolder went from 1k to 60k+ cuz of a 10% mod imagine all the others...

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

/not signed.

Green weapons are the only middle class items in the game. Cheap perfect mods that are within the grasp of almost every player in the game with a minimum of effort in either getting the gold or finding it themselves. Green items need to stay since they are the only balance between the ultra high end golds that only the rich can afford and the rest of the weapons the general populace can get ahold of.

RuPee

RuPee

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Los Angeles, CA

[RoD]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by sadego
Since they came out it has made it a lot easier to get perfect items at small prices and sell items.
isnt this a good thing? there are so many people that dont have 100k+ in their account, especially new players. is it bad that they made really nice weapons easily accessible to these players. please consider those who cant afford perfect sickles (victos) or perfect sephis' (razorstone). just be glad they didnt make extra rare skins into greens like serpents or crystallines. if you want to spend 100k+to get a perfect gold item go ahead, no one's stopping you. plus the greens dont hurt the prices of perfect golds if thats what your worried about. a gold sephis identical to a razorstone wont be 20k thats for sure.

/notsigned

viper008

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Not just NO but HELL NO /notsigned

Rainy Ico

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

/notsigned
I can't afford a 3/1 sword mod + 30 hp sword pommel
I can't afford a 5/1 bow mod +30 bow handle
I can't afford a shadowblade that has 3/1 +30

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

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ok ummm to the poster of this topic.. you should be dragged out into the street and have the crud kicked outa you... no offense but as is PvE's only real reward IS GREENS while the PvE'rs get fame, rank, money(if they GvG and get into a toruney and win), and they only have to spend like 10 mins to get a new skill...so umm NO FRICKING WAY

Dragonblood

Dragonblood

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Followers of Master Jack [FOMJ]

N/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by sadego
Guild Wars was a lot more fun before the release of greens. Since they came out it has made it a lot easier to get perfect items at small prices and sell items. You can keep them but make there drop ratio a lot lower and maybe make them more expensive than golds...
The drop ratio is already low. If you searched other threads on how sometimes it's hard to get green items. Then you'll know that. I mean lowering the drop ratio, will only make farmers rise the price on the green items.

Plus like others here have posted, greens are cheaper than perfect gold items. And with Factions comming out, green items may drop even lower in price.

/notsigned

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloody Death
Wouldnt that lead to green prices sky rocketing... if an offhand ele item like the rockmolder went from 1k to 60k+ cuz of a 10% mod imagine all the others...
Thus making the removal of greens totally counterproductive to the stated reasoning, my point exactly.

and Dragonblood, I would think the opposite; Given the current greens will mostly likely remain exclusive to Tyria, somewhere down the rode they will become very popular items for those who like collecting elusive loot. This coupled with the lower drop rate and the recent correction of the Gear/Book exploit combined with the potential decline in Tyrian activeness with time (who the hell wants to go back to ascalon?)would logically raise the value of Greens a good deal Imho.

Ravex

Ravex

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Dragon Academy

Mo/Me

i doubt they will do anything about greens beacause part of what gw is about is not having to play 24/7 to be a powerful or have fun

Don Zardeone

Don Zardeone

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

A PvE char can't really compete with a PvP char unless the PvE char has perfect equipment.

Greens are a cheap alternative for perfect items and allows budget PvErs to compete with their own char in PvP (still I think the majority of greens are quite crappy)

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

Sorry to say, /not signed. The greens serve their purpose for the causal players.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

I'm not sure if I should even leave this thread open.

Greens were added to the game to give perfect weapons to casual players easily. They were meant to be cheap and available to everyone.

Asking that they be made more rare and cost more is completely going against the purpose of adding them in the first place.

Green items can remove quite a large grind from the game, working to build your own perfect item can take quite some time and money, but finding a green that is almost how you want it will help you get back to playing the game how you like and not pointless farming for money.

dandahead

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

heh signed i hate greens

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dandahead
heh signed i hate greens
instead of just saying "LOLZ I HATE GREENZ" why dont you actually tell why you hate them?

sadego

sadego

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Minnesota

Farmers of Woe

W/R

well gw was more fun without the invention because it was harder to get good items. Now you can pull out a perfect staff at 3k (20 minutes of farming) and it takes a lot of fun out of the game...i thought more ppl would agree with me...because if you had good items before greens they really got u

BakedMonkey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by sadego
because if you had good items before greens they really got u
with that statement, you just proved that the purpose you opened up this thread was for personal profit. Yes an average guy like me cant afford those 15^50 swords or that 15% while enchanted bow. Guild Wars is not about grinding like you want it to be. Guild Wars is having fun just the way you want it. Whether it be PvP or PvE, removing greens will cause everyone to grind for those "perfect" weapons and guess what, not every one really enjoys farming. Like many posters here said, if you really want a perfect gold weapon, sure spend your money on it. I rather spend my money on something that works just as good.

Zui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/

/unsigned

The majority of greens suck, and I'd never use them under any circumstances(mostly because I PvP).

However they need to be in the game, it's lowered the weapon mod/gold weapon costs, and also given players who don't even have enough money/time to get gold weapons how they like to just play the game. Not to mention, many PvErs actualy will customize their greens, which makes them superior to a non-customized perfect gold(in terms of +% damage).

Greens aren't super awsome, they're just a middle class of weapons that everyone can afford. If you want mods like -5e +%dmg, -10 al attacking +%dmg, ect you have to get golds. If you want a certain prefix and suffix, along with a certain +% damage condition, you're going to be using golds more often than not.

Another very good thing they did is make perfect caster items a bit more viable, and allow PvPves to have more options for items like there are on the PvP creation screen.

There's really no negative to greens, except that they've slightly devalued the gold market, and pretty much destroyed the gold market for perfect caster wands/offhands. Their positives far outway their negatives.

Infact, if most greens actualy had ideal prefix and suffix mods, and +% conditional damage that went well with those mods, I'd be even more for them.

Nightwish

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Signing this = choosing to grind

So, a definite..

/unsigned!

Ixi

Ixi

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Martyrs to the Earth [RocK]

/unsigned

I love greens

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

Sorry your not fooling anyone. Your motives for suggesting such a thing is pure greed. Just because you have greens that you want to sell for a high price doesn't mean its going to happen. Personally I prefer it when prices are lower it means EVERYONE has a chance to get them. Greed is what ruins online economies turning the game to hell. I think ANet would be damned before they nerf every green in the game.

Sergent Life Helper

Sergent Life Helper

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Rites of Passage [RP]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by sadego
well gw was more fun without the invention because it was harder to get good items. Now you can pull out a perfect staff at 3k (20 minutes of farming) and it takes a lot of fun out of the game...i thought more ppl would agree with me...because if you had good items before greens they really got u
...and they still do. If you have a uber gold sword or ax, people say, "wow look at that guy. He must be really skilled." Greens are just another way of getting nice weapons, but not gegtting the best of the best. People won't be saying, "OMFG A GREEN YOU SUPER PWN!!!" No, just cuz those uber golds are twice as powerful(with the exceptions of new players).

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

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/signed despite the fact that eveybody disagree and that it prolly will never happen anyway.

Yeah I like the idea of having elite weapons. Gold, perfect, and therefore expensive weapons.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vilaptca
I'm not sure if I should even leave this thread open.

Greens were added to the game to give perfect weapons to casual players easily. They were meant to be cheap and available to everyone.

Asking that they be made more rare and cost more is completely going against the purpose of adding them in the first place.

Green items can remove quite a large grind from the game, working to build your own perfect item can take quite some time and money, but finding a green that is almost how you want it will help you get back to playing the game how you like and not pointless farming for money.
QFT!

Wouldn't mind at all if you closed it

/NOT signed

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

lol!~!

Need me to say more? Just look at all the people against the idea...

Zhou Feng

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

CATS

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by sadego
Guild Wars was a lot more fun before the release of greens. Since they came out it has made it a lot easier to get perfect items at small prices and sell items. You can keep them but make there drop ratio a lot lower and maybe make them more expensive than golds...
Too late for that dude.
/not signed

Zexion

Zexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Warrior Nation [WN]

N/Me

/unsigned

Besides, what does it matter. Now, EVERY gold is perfect, or a few points from perfect (ie 15>50 or 14>50 and +28-30 health, or whatever mods it has)

_Zexion

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

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Skill vs Grind

And anet knows they need some sort of auction house / trade house and they are working on it (radio interview) but it may not be ready till around C3 but will be for everyone (c1, c2, c3+).

They should help people move/sell things and stablize prices.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

/signed

greens are supposed to be unique .. the stats are just like any other max item..
same for the skin.. basically it's just a named rare item
most of the Prophecies Campaign greens are crap and wont see play a lot
most of their mod combination are crap (they just made a lil effort on Victo's axe)
their purpose are only "easy way" .. another anti-farming mechanism

in a word, .. USELESS :/

maybe with a new skin specific to em...

as for myself, i dont use greens, in a way i play as if they werent part of the game .. maybe factions ll change that.. we ll see
all the greens i dropped til now were sold to the shop or given free ^^
ex: i dont see a use for a +1/20% or 10/10 sunder weapon

Sidra

Sidra

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

CT

NITE

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sundering is 20/20 now, and there are even some presearing greens that drop. My frien got 2.