Retroactive Signet of Capture EXP Bonus - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Raptox

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Huntington Station, NY

Une Annee Sans Lumiere [UASL]

E/Me

27 Apr 2006 at 17:06 - 1

Alright, I'm looking for opinions on this...

Remember how when the amount of EXP needed for L20's to earn a skill point was lowered from 20k to 15k? Remember how your skill point total was retroactively adjusted up based on this change?

My suggestion is to make the new Signet of Capture EXP bonus retroactive as well. Questions: do you think this is a) possible and b) appropriate?

If you don't know what I'm talking about, it's this:

Quote:

Signet of Capture: now gives 250 XP for each level you have when used to capture an Elite skill.

One difficulty: Does the GW database know what level you were at when you used a CapSig?

Also, if I am being a total moron and this is already confirmed planned/not, let me know. I promise not to cry (much).

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

27 Apr 2006 at 17:07 - 2

lvl 20 ==> 5k exp

Not bad...3 elite = anoter skill point

Raptox

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Huntington Station, NY

Une Annee Sans Lumiere [UASL]

E/Me

27 Apr 2006 at 17:13 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightblade

lvl 20 ==> 5k exp

Not bad...3 elite = anoter skill point

Exactly. It can add up to a rather significant amount of EXP. In one of my char's case, it'd be about 6 skill points. I'm a casual player, so your mileage will vary, of course.

I'm not going to be mad if it doesn't happen. I think it'd be nice, and it seems consistent with A.Net's past decisions, but I'm just one guy. That's why I'm looking for opinions.

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

27 Apr 2006 at 17:16 - 4

Looks like skill capping is the new skill point farming...

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

27 Apr 2006 at 17:20 - 5

haha, skill hunter title, here i come!

Dougal Kronik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ontario, Canada

Glengarry Fencibles

R/

27 Apr 2006 at 17:27 - 6

If they just took the current number of Elites that each character has and multiplied it by 5k XP, I think would work since most players capped skills at level 18 or more.

I don't think this would unnecessarily unbalance for those characters that were run to the bosses and capped at lower levels. Even if the caps were done at level 1 that's 250 XP. It's only a difference of 4750 XP for 1 Elite cap. And a good portion of the Elites are usually in hard to reach areas of the Southern Shiverpeaks and Ring of Fire Islands (where 98% of the characters are level 20).

Just do a one time reward for existing characters based on the number of Elites they currently have.

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

27 Apr 2006 at 17:36 - 7

Really doesn't seem fair for those of us that capped a load of stuff before this stuff... What about all those people who have every single elite in the game, don't they get a title?

Dougal Kronik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ontario, Canada

Glengarry Fencibles

R/

27 Apr 2006 at 17:58 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evilsod

Really doesn't seem fair for those of us that capped a load of stuff before this stuff... What about all those people who have every single elite in the game, don't they get a title?

The Title is retroactive. The experience currently is not. Like the Title Tyrian Cartographer - that is for exploring over 90% of Tyria. If the Titles weren't retroactive nobody would currently have Titles.

If you have over 90 Elites, then you have the Title: Skill Hunter.

Undivine

of Brackenwood

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ontario, Canada

27 Apr 2006 at 21:22 - 9

I somehow doubt they will do it. Not that I'm not in support of the idea, but I don't think it'll happen.

Remember the Villainy of Galrath? Oh, I did that quest with a group of 6 people, most of whom were not level 20. We didn't know about ToA at the time. We spent hours doing it, not even quitting when we all got down to -60% DP. Ha, oh how innocent and newbish I was.

But we got it done. And for our efforts we were rewarded a lovely 500 experience points. This was back when experience really mattered to me, mind you.

...Two days later they patched it and bumped up the reward to 4000 experience points. Did I see any of that? Nope.

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

27 Apr 2006 at 21:38 - 10

Agree that it probably won't happen.

Agree that I would like to see it happen.

Zexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Warrior Nation [WN]

N/Me

27 Apr 2006 at 21:44 - 11

But still, captures are easy to track. If only they gave, say, a 2500 retroactive bonus, so people who capped at low levels would not get any boni.
I remember when they changed skill points from every 20000 xp, to every 15000 xp. That was retroactive, as I got 4 skill points first time I got xp after that update. Why can't this be retroactive?

_Zexion

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

27 Apr 2006 at 22:21 - 12

I agree that this 5,000xp per elite should be retroactive. I haven't done extensive capturing on my characters, just all their primary elites with perhaps 1-2 secondary elites. So for an average player(who's captured 15-20 skills after reaching level 20), it would only result in an extra 75,000-100,000xp. That's really not a lot, I could easily farm up that amount in under an hour. That being said, it wouldn't be a huge disappointment if this idea isn't implemented. But it would make sense if it were.

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

27 Apr 2006 at 22:51 - 13

should be retroactive since the change from 20k to 15k was....

Blaarg

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada

Kinetic Fuzion [kF]

R/

28 Apr 2006 at 02:34 - 14

Would be nice, I'd love to get that experience for my 60+ elites on my warrior

keldean rainmaker

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

R/E

28 Apr 2006 at 04:06 - 15

what about the money to buy the skills?it would still be 1 plat for each skill after you reached your share of buying skills.i would still need money for say 60 elite skills=60 plat

Wolydarg

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

I Excentrix I [PuNK]

R/

28 Apr 2006 at 04:36 - 16

You can't buy elite skills...
you can only cap them with the Signet of Capture.

Undivine

of Brackenwood

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ontario, Canada

28 Apr 2006 at 05:29 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolydarg

You can't buy elite skills...
you can only cap them with the Signet of Capture.

Which costs 1K.

Zephro

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

28 Apr 2006 at 12:28 - 18

Doesn't buying a cap sig use up one skill point anyway?

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

28 Apr 2006 at 12:31 - 19

I'd /sign a petition to retro this... kinda want my 450k~ xp

No real reason not to either, except that we do have the headstart on xp from faction characters.

dawnrain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

28 Apr 2006 at 12:35 - 20

ANet should reward some retroactive XP for Elite skill caps. 2500xp (lvl10) would be a fair compromise/estimate for each Elite skill before factions.

Raptox

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Huntington Station, NY

Une Annee Sans Lumiere [UASL]

E/Me

28 Apr 2006 at 14:05 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avarre

I'd /sign a petition to retro this... kinda want my 450k~ xp

No real reason not to either, except that we do have the headstart on xp from faction characters.

The EXP headstart on new players wouldn't be as significant as the experience headstart, if you know what I mean.

Petition, eh? Before we go there, would someone want to just send support a quick email asking if there are any plans for this? I can't get to the support site from work and I'll be on travel this weekend.

Akhilleus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'.

Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

W/Mo

28 Apr 2006 at 14:21 - 22

this is annoying for alot of us though.
personally, the day before the pre-release, i capped 6 eilites in that 1 day alone; because i wanted some more hammer elites and whatnot before chapter 2. then i read that update, and was pretty POed...i could have gained 30,000 exp just by waiting a few hours.

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

28 Apr 2006 at 14:45 - 23

I've capped about 30 elites per char on my 1st account and probably about 15-20 on my 2nd, would definatly like to get some XP for this. Every single elite from my 1st account was at lvl20, a few on the 2nd were at very low level. (SoJ lvl8 and SS lvl7 ftw) purely for power leveling purposes.

I think i killed that group of Skeleton Rangers on the cliff outside Bergen about 50 times w/ SS to power level myself

Blaarg

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada

Kinetic Fuzion [kF]

R/

29 Apr 2006 at 23:57 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akhilleus

this is annoying for alot of us though.
personally, the day before the pre-release, i capped 6 eilites in that 1 day alone; because i wanted some more hammer elites and whatnot before chapter 2. then i read that update, and was pretty POed...i could have gained 30,000 exp just by waiting a few hours.

Yea, this is really annoying. I just capped all the mesmer and ranger elites on my warrior about a week before this update.. And because I did it early I miss out on 150k xp or so..