World of Warcraft has an interesting option that I think would benefit Guild Wars and perhaps help a better creation of parties and avoid the usual disappointments from having a noob or a slacker in your party. When you target another player you have to ability to left click his name and inspect his whole equipment! Therefore you know what type of armor, weapons, runes and so forth the guys in your party wear, allowing to kick out the high level noobs who went through the whole game running or staying at the start of mission as their equipment will probably belie their ill-gained high xp. Added to that, I am a curious lad and I would really appreciate to be able to "check out" a cool character or player met in a town or in party!
Let me know what you think of this idea.
Ability to Inspect Other players' equipment
Amran Cthralgu
Stormlord Alex
Trouble is, it's be abused in some way...
"LF tank for FoW - sup absorption only plz"
or...
"STRATIN L33T PARTY FOR THK - NED 4 MUNKS AND 3 WA/MOS - 15^50 FIRY DARGON SORDZ ONLY PLZZZZZZZ"
See?
"LF tank for FoW - sup absorption only plz"
or...
"STRATIN L33T PARTY FOR THK - NED 4 MUNKS AND 3 WA/MOS - 15^50 FIRY DARGON SORDZ ONLY PLZZZZZZZ"
See?
fiery
Not really, cause FDS or anything weapon can we used, I doubt EVERY group if not 1 or 2 will look for a 15^50 all perfect items for the whole party.
Why inspect the armor theres nothing wrong with what people use in your party, never had an incident when peoples items in the party affected gameplay.
Why inspect the armor theres nothing wrong with what people use in your party, never had an incident when peoples items in the party affected gameplay.
jummeth
/notsigned
irrelavent.
only exception is, it be nice to check if the party members have infused armour. Only on the last 4-5 missions. Like a x/5.
Its frustrating as a heal monk... they die in 2 secs...
fds user - "zOMG monk you noob!!!! REZ!!!"
me - "wtf? are you infused?"
fds user - "whats infused?!?"
*mass rage quit*
me - ffs
irrelavent.
only exception is, it be nice to check if the party members have infused armour. Only on the last 4-5 missions. Like a x/5.
Its frustrating as a heal monk... they die in 2 secs...
fds user - "zOMG monk you noob!!!! REZ!!!"
me - "wtf? are you infused?"
fds user - "whats infused?!?"
*mass rage quit*
me - ffs
Lampshade
Why can't you just ask them to see their equipment?
Stolichnaya
Not a fan of this idea. See FFXI. Also, Guild Wars is not so difficult that we need to make sure everyone is wearing top gear.
WasAGuest
I can't see how it would make a difference either way. The only complaint I would have is if it was added, and I was informed when someone inspects me; that used to bug me to no end in EQ (thankfully there was an option to turn it off).
So, I don't think it's a bad addition.
Also, if a group is actually "speaking" like that and is adding only players for their equipment (ie, are that dependant on gear), chances are, in a skill based game like GW, they are gonna really stink and not worth joining with to begin with. Just my opinion.
So, I don't think it's a bad addition.
Also, if a group is actually "speaking" like that and is adding only players for their equipment (ie, are that dependant on gear), chances are, in a skill based game like GW, they are gonna really stink and not worth joining with to begin with. Just my opinion.
Akhilleus
/notsigned
i could afford dozens of perfect mesmer weapons, and pay to have my mesmer plvled to 20; and thus not learn how to use them well in the meantime. equipment does not usually equal skill. since if someone has fow armor and whatnot, it means they have at least been there, and chances are, play the character with at least some regularity but at the same time, they could have ebayed the materials and payed a service group to run them to the forgemaster.
anyway, i think you get the point.
i could afford dozens of perfect mesmer weapons, and pay to have my mesmer plvled to 20; and thus not learn how to use them well in the meantime. equipment does not usually equal skill. since if someone has fow armor and whatnot, it means they have at least been there, and chances are, play the character with at least some regularity but at the same time, they could have ebayed the materials and payed a service group to run them to the forgemaster.
anyway, i think you get the point.
shardfenix
absolutely not.
It is your fault if you don't know what droks armor looks like.
Im sure if the player has godly items, he wont mind showing you them anyway.
It is your fault if you don't know what droks armor looks like.
Im sure if the player has godly items, he wont mind showing you them anyway.
Wrath Of Dragons
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Originally Posted by WasAGuest
I can't see how it would make a difference either way. The only complaint I would have is if it was added, and I was informed when someone inspects me; that used to bug me to no end in EQ (thankfully there was an option to turn it off).
So, I don't think it's a bad addition. Also, if a group is actually "speaking" like that and is adding only players for their equipment (ie, are that dependant on gear), chances are, in a skill based game like GW, they are gonna really stink and not worth joining with to begin with. Just my opinion. |
heheh
this seems irrelevant to me, as gear really doesnt matter. iv seen some dam good warriors who use a wand. is that bad? just depends on how u use it
Masseur
Why would you even say just because someone has FoW armor they know how to play? or even go there regularly? Just means they have money and know some people that got them to the armor guy to buy it.
gosl
/nosigned
I don't want to hear worthless banther like "OMG! You only have that equipment. You suck!", "What a weak loser, go buy some max weapons.", and other such nonsense. Giving people the ability to spy on your equipment/stat would only give the elitists yet another weapon to make themselves feel mightier than others.
I don't want to hear worthless banther like "OMG! You only have that equipment. You suck!", "What a weak loser, go buy some max weapons.", and other such nonsense. Giving people the ability to spy on your equipment/stat would only give the elitists yet another weapon to make themselves feel mightier than others.
dansamy
Book trick.
bilateralrope
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Originally Posted by shardfenix
It is your fault if you don't know what droks armor looks like.
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A suggestion I was going to make soon was to display the AL of a person. Well, not the actualy AL, since that would make everyone have to take the highest base AL they can, even if it doesn't fit your build. I will post it once I work around that problem
Zui
/unsigned
ok...
1. Gear isin't extremely important in GW, it can help, and in some cases a great deal, but so far I've haven't seen one case in PvE (save not being infused) that gear would make or break whatever. PvP wise, definently helps to have "perfect" items that are actualy properly modded(a.k.a. not most greens...) The only reason you should even care about gear quality in PvE is infusion, or on say warriors that are generaly supposed to be taking all the aggro in PvE(hence a warrior in infused pre-searing starter armor at THK.. just isin't a good cantidate for your party).
How to check infusion: Ask to see 5 pieces of infused armor in trade window before you start the mission/quest/zone into any area.
How to check your tanks AL: Exact same thing as you do for infusuion.
You shouldn't need to check anyone elses AL, since if your party has a decent understanding of the aggro system, no one else except the "tank" should actualy be attacked. If your softies are going to get attacked... Perhaps bring some sort of speed buff//snare so they can kite. Infact save the case where your warrior has no clue, you don't need to check AL.
If you want to see someones gear, just ask nicely.
As for displaying the AL of a person, due to how that's actualy calculated it wouldn't work, unless you averaged the AL of every piece, even though they have a different % chance to be struck... Then we have the conditional +al bonus, which can't really be factored into that... Basicaly it wouldn't work no matter what you did.
ok...
1. Gear isin't extremely important in GW, it can help, and in some cases a great deal, but so far I've haven't seen one case in PvE (save not being infused) that gear would make or break whatever. PvP wise, definently helps to have "perfect" items that are actualy properly modded(a.k.a. not most greens...) The only reason you should even care about gear quality in PvE is infusion, or on say warriors that are generaly supposed to be taking all the aggro in PvE(hence a warrior in infused pre-searing starter armor at THK.. just isin't a good cantidate for your party).
How to check infusion: Ask to see 5 pieces of infused armor in trade window before you start the mission/quest/zone into any area.
How to check your tanks AL: Exact same thing as you do for infusuion.
You shouldn't need to check anyone elses AL, since if your party has a decent understanding of the aggro system, no one else except the "tank" should actualy be attacked. If your softies are going to get attacked... Perhaps bring some sort of speed buff//snare so they can kite. Infact save the case where your warrior has no clue, you don't need to check AL.
If you want to see someones gear, just ask nicely.
As for displaying the AL of a person, due to how that's actualy calculated it wouldn't work, unless you averaged the AL of every piece, even though they have a different % chance to be struck... Then we have the conditional +al bonus, which can't really be factored into that... Basicaly it wouldn't work no matter what you did.
Terra Xin
/notsigned
Just.... no.
Just.... no.
Spoony
The stuff's mods and quality doesn't vary here as it does in WoW. No need for dat then /notsigned
bilateralrope
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Originally Posted by Zui
You shouldn't need to check anyone elses AL, since if your party has a decent understanding of the aggro system, no one else except the "tank" should actualy be attacked.
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Thallandor
/not signed sorry, it may be nice for showing off but theres abused linked to PuGs but then again it might be useful to see whos uninfused in THK and RoF missions.
Navaros
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Originally Posted by Lampshade
Why can't you just ask them to see their equipment?
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/signed
BahamutKaiser
This is just a tool for discrimination, Skill over time played, Skill over endless hours farmed for max items. If players are discriminating, they should be deciding based on gameplay talent, not equiptment. Players can already look at a players armor and get a general idea of what kind of investment they make in their equiptment, and that is the most that should be visible.
This is another bad idea from a game which either wasn't good at all, or simply isn't good for this game. Just because it is in another game doesn't make it good for this one. Tools for selfish, petty, elitist, immature players arn't good additions. Any insignificant amount of satisfaction some may get from showing off their items isn't a reason to introduce a tool which will be used to make petty discrimination against teammates.
This is another bad idea from a game which either wasn't good at all, or simply isn't good for this game. Just because it is in another game doesn't make it good for this one. Tools for selfish, petty, elitist, immature players arn't good additions. Any insignificant amount of satisfaction some may get from showing off their items isn't a reason to introduce a tool which will be used to make petty discrimination against teammates.
Chris1986
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Originally Posted by fiery
Not really, cause FDS or anything weapon can we used, I doubt EVERY group if not 1 or 2 will look for a 15^50 all perfect items for the whole party.
Why inspect the armor theres nothing wrong with what people use in your party, never had an incident when peoples items in the party affected gameplay. |
I know plenty of people that are great in this game both PVE and PVP and have none, or a limited selection of near perfect or perfect weapons. Those people would get the shaft by thousands of little kids that only want the "1337" kids in their group.
Absolutely not.
/notsigned.
Zui
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Originally Posted by bilateralrope
When have you seen a PUG with that much understanding ?
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bilateralrope
With my friends I trust them enough so I wouldn't need to trust them, especially checking each piece like you suggested. Therefore I assumed that you were talking about pugs with your comment about people understanding the aggro and therefore only tanks needing decent armor.
Familliar Realm
/notsigned
This would be totally over abused.
This would be totally over abused.
bulletsmile
/notsigned at all
but a way to see infusion would be nice.....
but a way to see infusion would be nice.....