Unable to complete all of Factions with Prophecies character?

Extinguisher Nex

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

I brought over my character from Prophecies and travelled back to the Monastery so that I could start from the beginning and complete all the quests and missions. I also want to fill out the map to get the explorer title and the missions title.

It doesn't look like you can get any of the quests from the Monastery since you aren't "Canthan", and a good part of the map around the Monastery is locked off. Does that mean I can't earn those titles and get access to all the game content with my existing character? If so that really sucks.

Is there something I'm missing, or is this intentional?

Dj Tano

Dj Tano

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

I think its intentional, else every1 would take theyr lvl20s and finish factions in a minute and that would be unfair to the people who want to play throught the game form the beginning...

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

I think this in more reguards to the new rank explorer % unlock.

Rit/Asa will not be able to get to C1 pre-sear.

Celeborn

Celeborn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

England

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

Mo/Me

Yeah, that island/area is like pre-sear, so I don't see why you would wanna take characters there apart from wanting to explore it.

Eclair

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Celeborn
Yeah, that island/area is like pre-sear, so I don't see why you would wanna take characters there apart from wanting to explore it.
There are missions there though, which you need if you want to do the missions title thing.

Extinguisher Nex

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

Exactly, I want to do the missions and quests on the island and explore all the territory, otherwise I won't be able to get the titles. Anyone figure out how to get access to those areas?

Pevil Lihatuh

Pevil Lihatuh

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Yorkshire, UK

R/Me

Not sure on the mission areas (since I haven't mad eit there yet) but you can get your Prophecies chars to the island.

When you first arrive in Cantha, go south through Burdek Byway to the Marketplace. From there go to the Docks and talk to Firstmate (someone). He'll take you to Seitung Harbour (on the island). Then simply head west until you reach Lannocks Courtyard, and you're at the Monastery.

Extinguisher Nex

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

Yeah, thanks, this entire thread is about what you can do once you get to the monastery. There doesn't appear to be any way to get the quests that allow you to enter the Ran Musu Gardens, Minister Cho's Estate, or Zen Daijun. All of the doors are blocked and the guards say that you can't get in.

I guess this really is a stand-alone game - don't bother trying to play all of it if you use a character from Tyria.

Nirvy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

England

Dangerously Incompetent

Rt/Mo

Well my new char in cantha, the missions there dont count towards the mission title, the first one to count is in the mainland,which GW:P chars can do, so your not missing anything cept the n00by quests on how to play :P

Masseur

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Southern California

R/Mo

If they meant for you to start any lower than you do when you bring your prophesies character over, it would do it for you. So whereever it brings you to, you do the missions/quests from there on up. They bring you to whatever town for a reason.

Astraea Zopyros

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Save the Ascalonian Rabbit [STAR]

Mo/

I think the Missions on that island *do* count towards the "Canthan Defender" title (or whatever that title is for completing missions with a Gold rating or above). When I completed the first mission on the island with my Rt/N (and completed it with the Gold rating), it added 1 mission to the 1/13 missions at Gold rating in "Titles."

Pillz_veritas

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fun Loving Gamers

R/Mo

gold rated missions? what?

dare49devil

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Danbury, Connecticut

W/Mo

Hey, A-Net will prob realize that you cannot access with chars from Prphecy, so they will omit the island at Canthan. Such as pre-sear in Chap 1 is omitted.

Give them some time. They will fix it.

Curin Derwin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/E

What about Vizunah Square (Local Quarters), that is a "countable" mission area and cannot be accessed by Tyrians. That means you cannot explore that part of the map on that side...

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

as of Monday Tyrian Explorers will not be able to get to the Monastery Island at all. As I understand it, that's an exclusive option to the preview event only. Once that goes so will access, so get your map bips now if you want them.

Also there seems to be a few areas with local and foreign quarters... Local is Canthan only access Foreign is Tyrian only access I believe... so yea there seems to be a few region specific areas Tyrians can not go. Here is the list so far I have found.

Ran Musu Gardens (I believe this is because the attrib quests are here)
Minister Cho's Estate
Zen Daijun
Shing Jea Arena

Vizunah Square (Local Quarter)


Its also Important to note that with the new Quest requirements to enter many map bips, running services is now kinda obsolete, as you need to have the quest to get in. And to get the quest often you have to be playing the storyline game in sequence.

In any case. to get into those places you MUST be using a Factions Campaign Character.

Extinguisher Nex

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

That is totally insane. So there is no way that I can have a character that has the titles for both Tyria and Cantha? They really intend that you start a new character for each chapter in order to access all the content for that chapter? They said that I could bring over my existing character but they didn't bother to mention that once I get here I can't actually play the whole game with it.

I just can't believe that.

Curin Derwin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/E

Typical A-Net, only half the story... *COUGHSILENTUPDATESCOUGH*

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

Well in all honestly the Monastery is only about 10% of the game. and they give you access this weekend at least to 50% of that 10%. so... IDK...

Linked characters that go to Tryia from Cantha have no way to get to Pre-searing either. Right? so its equal footing.

And as far as titles. that was a last min thing that was fan proposed that got threw in. It was not intentional I'm sure... Just an effect of the model. However you get the initial title for 80% I think. and like I said the monastery is only about 10%... so you should be able to attain between 80% and 90% for the Cantha Explorer title on any character.

Just my opinion. I have not got there yet. I'm only at 65% ATM for Cantha with my original Tyrian Character. and I'm down to Zos Shivros Channel.

Loralai

Loralai

Purveyor of Useless Info

Join Date: Oct 2005

Perpetual Motion Squad [PMS]

Mo/

Along the same lines, I find it disheartening that I brought my Prophecies monk over first, and find myself not being able to participate in various missions with guildies who have Canthan born characters. The GW:F Manuscript info states clearly that "in GW:F you are able to play with anyone, anywhere, at anytime." However, that is simply not true. I have no problem with being shut out of pre-sear, I mean that's a given. But there should definately be no delineation between Canthan and Tyrian on merged accounts when doing cooperative missions.

liuu

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

For all the people saying Canthan characters can't go to pre-sear ascalon, the difference is that pre-sear doesnt count in the % of exploration of Tyria. Shing Jea island does.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

means a Faction char can have the 2 titles with 100% and those who are from Prophecies cant ... !!!

hunter

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

More of an incentive to PLAY THE GAME rather then start at a lvl 20 area with all your elite skills and perfect upgraded weapons where every canthan character is only 15 with "noob" gear

Of course you can always transfer stuff but Canthan born characters will be at a dissadvantage, especially during the first mainland quests which are relatively harder than stuff in prophecies.

Cuthroat Dibbler

Cuthroat Dibbler

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Lore School

Me/

Dear ANet .... (Gaile)

Please CONFIRM either way whether Tyrain chars can attain 100% Canthan expolorer staus as this seems to be a goal of many (including myself) with our Prophecies chars.

gou

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

globally warmed england

the discarnate

similarly factions born characters cannot enter coop missions prior to lions arch (So forget about that title). Luckily for me my pet tiger leveled to 10 on the way back to ascalon city, so it wasn't a complete waste of my time.