Dear Anet, please let us choose faces from Prophecies

ibex333

ibex333

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brooklyn, NY

[EYE]

Rt/A

When trying to create a character in Factions, I noticed that there seems to be fewer faces avalable, compared to the Prophecies characters. That may not be so, but either way, why not let people select one of the Prophecies faces in Factions? I see nothing wrong with that.

I personaly do not like any of the faces avalable for a Necromancer in Factions, but I do like the ones avalable for Prophecies.
Also it would be nice to see more diversity in faces avalble for a Ritualist and Assasin.
Some people might say something like - GET A LIFE.
But, this is an RPG, and when you roleplay a character, you identify with him/her - which is why it is nice to have the exact look that you want, to have a good gaming experience.

In the end, I'd like to say that this is not an attempt to express my dislike toward the new faces, or anything in Factions. I merely suggest that players are given the option to select among ALL faces, and mabe even hairstyles that were avalable in GW up till now.

Wolydarg

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

I Excentrix I [PuNK]

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If you want to roleplay a character, you should know that your character comes from an asian background with asian genetic material. Canthan faces are oriental whereas the prophecies faces aren't necesarily so.

/notsigned

Libitina Nefarious

Libitina Nefarious

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

WI

N/

/signed

Even if they are asian, they're not very good looking asians. -_- I would also like a better variety of both hair and faces. It's not gonna keep me from playing the game, it's just that everyone is going to have the same face for a few professions because there's only a few good looking ones.

ibex333

ibex333

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brooklyn, NY

[EYE]

Rt/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolydarg
If you want to roleplay a character, you should know that your character comes from an asian background with asian genetic material. Canthan faces are oriental whereas the prophecies faces aren't necesarily so.

/notsigned
It doesnt matter in this case. I want to roleplay a not Canthan character who just happened to travel to Cantha.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Libitina Nefarious
/signed

Even if they are asian, they're not very good looking asians. -_- I would also like a better variety of both hair and faces. It's not gonna keep me from playing the game, it's just that everyone is going to have the same face for a few professions because there's only a few good looking ones.
My point exactly. Thank you for your support

calamitykell

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

N.Y.C.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ibex333
It doesnt matter in this case. I want to roleplay a not Canthan character who just happened to travel to Cantha.
Then do that in Tyria. You solved the problem yourself. Wanna roleplay a character who just happened to travel to Cantha? Then make a character and "just happen" to travel to Cantha.

/not signed.

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

they are from cantha. they have distinct features.

agrees to what the above poster said.

Elrond Afil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Me

/signed....some of them are to ugly

ibex333

ibex333

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brooklyn, NY

[EYE]

Rt/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by calamitykell
Then do that in Tyria. You solved the problem yourself. Wanna roleplay a character who just happened to travel to Cantha? Then make a character and "just happen" to travel to Cantha.

/not signed.
But you are forgetting that in Tyria it will take me 4x times as long to level a character!


Quote:
Originally Posted by tomcruisejr
they are from cantha. they have distinct features.

agrees to what the above poster said.
I dont know what your problem is guys. The fact is, the new faces are quite ugly... and why would it bother you if ppl could choose Tyrian faces in Cantha is beyound me.

bulletsmile

bulletsmile

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

I live in Konglevegen

N/

/not signed

i think it's more fun this way

ROASTBEEP

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/N

/sign

i am asian myself and would like to be able to make an asian looking character in GWP (not that crazy female monk face) but what can you do.

calamitykell

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

N.Y.C.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ibex333
But you are forgetting that in Tyria it will take me 4x times as long to level a character!
It's a long journey from Tyria->Cantha. I would _hope_ you gained a few levels along the way.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ibex333
I dont know what your problem is guys. The fact is, the new faces are quite ugly... and why would it bother you if ppl could choose Tyrian faces in Cantha is beyound me.
The new faces are leagues more beautiful than the prophecies faces. The only way I'd /sign your idea is if it worked both ways. Give me Cantha faces in Tyria and I'll sign. Which isn't likely because that'd be importing other chapter content into chapter 1, and vice versa.

Loch

Loch

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Canthan people are Canthan. Tyrians are Tyrian. If you want to be "a Tyrian who crossed to Cantha", you'd roll a new Tyrian and cross over to Cantha.

Not a hard concept.

Red

Red

Rawr!

Join Date: Mar 2006

Kentucky, USA

Team Love [kiSu]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by calamitykell
Then do that in Tyria. You solved the problem yourself. Wanna roleplay a character who just happened to travel to Cantha? Then make a character and "just happen" to travel to Cantha.

/not signed.
... explain to me, then, why we are allowed to make black characters in Prophecies.
Ascalon citizens were white. Krytans were, at best, a coffee-coloured Jamaican skintone. If the Visier is any indication, the Orrians were also white. It appears that the Elonian ghosts were also white...

Tyria is full of white people. So someone, PLEASE explain the black-coloured warriors running around. For that matter, please explain how me and two of my guildies managed to create these warriors of very different ethnicities long ago with only Prophecies skins.

We have a precedent for this. Why restrict our creativity, for the sake of maintaining an Asian feel? ANet, seriously, half your fanbase is made of Japanimation freaks who will make All Things Asian no matter what, so.... it's safe to let us make black Ritualists, etc.

/signed, because ANet signed this themselves when they made the Prophecies skins

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

How often do you look at your characters face ?

I'm remaining netural on this issue, because it doesn't matter as I never look at the face except when I spend a minute or two comparing them when making a PvE character (and usually hating all of them).

Spoony

Spoony

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Just chillin', Playing Gw

Rurik Is A Suicidal Maniac [ftw] - Recruiting people for HA

I dont get your point actually, it just doesnt matter for me whether there would be 10 or 100 faces, i just hope there will be one i like there, and then its fine.

/halfsigned

Tien ak

Tien ak

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Crystal Indignation

R/W

Totaly agree.

Who are you guys to say "no he cannot have a character face from prophies" no offense but its a players choice you don't like it? deal with it. we payed for the game with our money so why should we bow before our words?

We should defintly be able to have faces from prophies over to the expansion, I have 6 chars now and each one I have spent about 5 minutes designing their looks so when they do become lvl 20 and have fow armor and the lark I can say "my character looks kick ass!" ;-)

And for people who will wine till our ears bleed on how it should be ethnic blah blah blah then anouther suggestion would be to put more face designs in, tho I know how that would suck for people who made their chars already. -_-

So all in all a good suggestion

/signed

Jan R.

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Definetly not signed. I like it the way it is, but there should be a larger amount of faces and stuff available.
Guess playing chapter 5 and you'll know where the character was created, that'll be fairly nice.
But they should be even more distinct.

Replicant

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/Me

/signed, when i get factions i would want to start out at cantha and play from there at lvl 1. I don't see what the problem is with having a "white assassin"..

how much sence does it make being able to make a completly black assassin that has asian eyes? unless you guys are into "that"............................... (i'll stop before i get banned LOL)

ever heard of migration?? not everyone born in the united states is white or "native american". so i think the same should be in factions.. let us be able to use the prophecies faces with the Factions characters.

Siddious

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Knights Of The Rising Sun

/notsigned

Its not that I want the Tyria faces, its more that I want a greater selection of faces for Cantha characters. Tyria characters have a much greater selection of faces, hair and colours, which is very annoying as Cantha characters have few

xiaokai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

Mo/Me

/Signed

Cartoonhero

Cartoonhero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sooner Nation

Mo/

i think that if you've bought both games, you should be able to choose from the full set of faces and hair when creating a character. I would love to be able to use the new female necro hairstyles with the face i love from the Tyrian side. It would bring alot more combinations and diversity to the game imo.
/signed x 1000

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Siddious
/notsigned

Its not that I want the Tyria faces, its more that I want a greater selection of faces for Cantha characters. Tyria characters have a much greater selection of faces, hair and colours, which is very annoying as Cantha characters have few
Agree with this. Instead of just offering Prophecy faces, I hope Anet offers more new faces. They could be "Asian", Middle-eastern, Indian, etc.

Asia is a big place, and I don't think the present Canthan faces represent all Asian faces...

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

/not signed

I like how they make each campaign unique. I would like the ability to change hair color and styles of existing characters (and say not allow you to change a c1 character's hairsytle to c2 until after you been there) but not the faces and restirct face's for each campaign.

xxSilhouette

xxSilhouette

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Lost in the sands of time...

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

R/Rt

/signed beacuse i agree that some of the new faces don't look that great But my solution would be i simply think there should have been more faces/hairstyles to choose from.

/notsigned beacuse i agree that canthan characters are from cantha and tyria characters are from tyria.

Eviance

Eviance

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Eh I forget... o_O

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

R/

/signed I think Redly said it best!

We have a guy in our guild who is Chinese and he was able to make his Tyrians look very Asian long before Factions - so Why can't we have whites/blacks/purples in Cantha?

However I can also agree with the post above mine!

bubbadoll

bubbadoll

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Brisbane

o Ameralia o

E/Mo

/signed

2ndName

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

There should be a day where you can recreate your toons.

Does-it-Matter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/

To the "White Assassin" and such similar comments:

Maybe because there is no one to instruct Assassins or Ritualistis in Tyria? It may be a very traditional profession to which is only taught in the land of Cantha.

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To the "moving around" comments:

You have to remember, this isn't like modern day migration. You can't just safely pack up and leave.

The people that left Ascalon were essentially banished for their decision to leave. They faced a LOT of hardships while leaving, it took HEROs to lead them there (despite there being 1000s of Player Characters, a "Hero" is rare in the storyline.) Even once they got there, it took a lot of work to get them set up. And that was a relatively small distance to move, on the same continent no-less.

You need money, contacts, luck and protection. Something that many of the people may not have access to.

Sure a few might move here and there, but they'd be refugees at best, probably not really well accepted into a rigid, traditional society. The percentage of them that would be "exceptional" (read: Hero material), let alone accepted for training has to be a VERY small percentage. Which, could translate into not having a facial representation.

Facial options, despite them being options to us, translates into a percentage of the "heros." So if they add more out-of-culture faces, you're essentially saying "1/x" of the heros are of that culture (x being the number of faces.)

You want a hero to be of a Prophecy-esq culture to be in Cantha... Make one, and catch a boat in Lion's Arch. Will it take a bit? Yeah, but it shouldn't be "easy" to jump continents either.

As a side note: One could argue its easier to get to and secure a ship to Tyria from Cantha, simply because Cantha is a smaller continent with the "main civilized" area having a large coast line. Of course, you need just as "large" as a reason to cross the seas.

Another side note: I could see reasons for some cultural additions to the "face models" but that would only be prompted by a large disaster or other reason to explain mass migration. Otherwise, why would someone who barely knows about the outside world, something that's scary and unknown, leave their safety? (Chances are the answer to that proves my earlier point)

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Onto the Black face models.

Well, there could be several reasons.

First could be legal/politically correctness. These things can be sensative situation and perhaps ANet wanted to just bypass that as an issue.

Another? Well remember, the global population isn't meant to reflect our own. Yes, they use Earth as a lot of source/design ideas, but it hardly reflects it (other than in appearance of people, and moderate groupings.)

Perhaps some great calamity occured in the "Black" homeland and that caused them to leave en mas, thus spreading out across the world.

Perhaps they are very good shipwrights and they have spread throughout the world due to their handiness with waterways.

Side Note, part 3: Perhaps for the African themed continent there won't be a majority of black/dark skinned persons. Perhaps only the land, animals, etc. are used for source materials. Just a thought, as I said, the world of Guild Wars doesn't have to reflect our world. Similar sure, exact? Hardly.

Miss Innocent

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

I wander.

Mo/R

I like having a bit of variety to the faces. I don't mean a huge number of faces that all look the same, but alot of faces are similar (and ugly). I do think a few ugly faces are important, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder (my guildmates think my Ele is ugly... he's not).

I'm not exactly signing it, I just want more options for characters.

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

yeah, i wanna make an AMERICAN NINJA!

like in that movie with the fat guy

everybody was kung-fu fightiiing...

TsunamiZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

/signed

similar issue this thread was talkign about
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3062582

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

You want Prophecies looking Char. play Prophecies and make it up in Tryria not Cantha.problem solved

/not signed

Don't forget this game is not about leveling it is about skill as 20 is maxed.

Exodous

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2005

/signed
The Asian faces look a bit wierd next to the Gothic architecture of the Echovald Forest.

I would just like some more options for my characters.

unholy guardian

unholy guardian

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Lost Haven

A/Mo

i agree, i want the ranger type from tyria, but the ranger faces for cantha are kinda meh

/signed

Naqser

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/A

Northern Borderguard

N/E

I would like to choose

Eye shapes
Eye color
Nose
Cheeks
Mouth

maybe even a little more

Full glorycustomness in the face

But still

/signed

General Surena

General Surena

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Germany

None

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redly
... explain to me, then, why we are allowed to make black characters in Prophecies.
Ascalon citizens were white. Krytans were, at best, a coffee-coloured Jamaican skintone. If the Visier is any indication, the Orrians were also white. It appears that the Elonian ghosts were also white...

Tyria is full of white people. So someone, PLEASE explain the black-coloured warriors running around. For that matter, please explain how me and two of my guildies managed to create these warriors of very different ethnicities long ago with only Prophecies skins.

We have a precedent for this. Why restrict our creativity, for the sake of maintaining an Asian feel? ANet, seriously, half your fanbase is made of Japanimation freaks who will make All Things Asian no matter what, so.... it's safe to let us make black Ritualists, etc.

/signed, because ANet signed this themselves when they made the Prophecies skins
There is none to zero "Negroid" warrior model in Prophecies, or let's just say African as your posting seems to imply. The so-called "black man" from your picture is more from the Indian region. Look at his face, it has clearly europid features. Don't make things up. It's not the skin defining it but the morphology/bone structure.

Edit: /notsigned.

Caleb

Caleb

Nil nisi malis terrori.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/Me

I would love to see an Oblivion type character creation model instituted.

As for this idea:

/no thanks

Lord Oranos

Lord Oranos

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fort Aspenwood

/signed

As a purchaser of both Factions and Prophecies I would like to be able to choose from both sets of faces, you dont have to be an asian character in cantha, thats pretty one-sided.

Besides, Its not like this is going to affect anyone else but you as the chooser. Its purely cosmetic.

curtman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

/signed. It is silly not to allow it.

If you own the game, you should be able to choose, skintone, face, hair, and hair color from any of the games you own.

Also the game manual indicates there was trade between Ascalon, other tyrian govs, and Cantha. It would have been possible to immigrate there. Also, Mhenlo was went to shing jea for training under Togo, so it is unreasonable to say he was/should be the only person to do so. It is basically exchange student schooling.

Viriato

Viriato

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Portugal

Os Cremento

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cartoonhero
i think that if you've bought both games, you should be able to choose from the full set of faces and hair when creating a character.
You said it. I actually took that feature for granted when I added the Factions key to my account, and was rather disappointed when I found out that was not the case.
/signed