Yeah if you re-read it he doesn't say they are going to add jumping just that free roaming would be addressed more in the future example: the ability to go more places on the map ect.
If jump was ever added it'd be an emote plain and simple. That's all.
Jeff Strain says... JUMPING?
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Mr_T_bot
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Originally Posted by Orbberius
Implementing jumping seems to me like a waste of resources. I really couldn't care less. In fact, I think it would be a very bad idea to change a mechanic that works well midway through the life of the game.
And I have a hard time believing bodyblocking is a mistake of the game code. There's even a Master of Bodyblocking in the Isle of Nameless! |
majoho
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The fact that body blocking is a "core strategy" is a serious game design flaw IMO. It is extremely not fun for either party; I want to win and lose because of my skill and my build, not because I was or wasn't good enough at exploiting the game's horrific pathing and collision problems.
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In my opinion that's a very RIGHT thing about GW, blocking with your body makes SENSE.
Go back to WoW where you can walk thru people.
Amity and Truth
Imho, jumping destroys games more that it helps them. Jumping doesn't bring any improvement to the game, but it sure gives some folks weapons to harass others even more.
Give *jump* me *jump* the *jump* stupid *jump* item *jump* lol *jump*. Could get as worse as Conquer Online where all you do is jump. Or Quake: Ughh . Ughh. Ughh. Ughh. Uggh. Ughh. Ughh. Ughh. Ughh.
Bah, no please no. Just keep it out of the game.
Give *jump* me *jump* the *jump* stupid *jump* item *jump* lol *jump*. Could get as worse as Conquer Online where all you do is jump. Or Quake: Ughh . Ughh. Ughh. Ughh. Uggh. Ughh. Ughh. Ughh. Ughh.
Bah, no please no. Just keep it out of the game.
Orbberius
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I... I hope that's clear enough for you. And yeah, bodyblocking is great. Get used to it or get used to sucking.
Snowman
all Jeff says is that it would be addressed...
you are all assuming that any kind of jumping would be something all characters would be able to do... WoW / CoH stylee..
however, think about it..
Nothing stopping them from making a SKILL!?.. maybe that new fisty-cuffs type character in C3 will have it as 'jumping' attribute xD
I dont know how it would work but it would be a move that would maybe alow you to jump out of battle without suffering critical strike..
I agree, I doubt they would make it so you can jump and clear a character.. but maybe a pet or a small monster?
you are all assuming that any kind of jumping would be something all characters would be able to do... WoW / CoH stylee..
however, think about it..
Nothing stopping them from making a SKILL!?.. maybe that new fisty-cuffs type character in C3 will have it as 'jumping' attribute xD
I dont know how it would work but it would be a move that would maybe alow you to jump out of battle without suffering critical strike..
I agree, I doubt they would make it so you can jump and clear a character.. but maybe a pet or a small monster?
MirkoTeran
One way to simply solve this would be a text filter like the one for WTB/WTS. If you say something in the lines "ZOMG I want to JUMP like in WoW!! lolololol!!11!!1" you get banned from GW for a week (ban length depending on the number of lol-s and !-s in message).
JR
Bunny hopping lightning orbs... what fun.
death fuzzy
i dont think jumping would make the game any better..
It would be a pointless update IMO
It would be a pointless update IMO
Dark Luke
In the real world, you can jump, but nowhere high enough to pass through normal standing bodyblockers... And you can't really jump down ledges because it'll either kill or severly cripple yourself for a long time...
frickett
You can only jump if you buy chapter 4. lol
Tetris L
Oh please, no bunnyhopping in GuildWars. This isn't Quake or UT. Jumping really serves no purpose in an MMORPG.
Cat Tabby
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'Body' blocking as you put it, has been a war strategy for as long as we have had war. Why do you think the Romans always moved in formation? They even invented that crazy thing called the Testudo formation (looked like a giant turtle made of shields)
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As for jumping; I think it would be a good thing although it would require a massive overhaul of what are frankly quite horrendous physics in guild wars.
Also; I dont think you should be able to walk through other players - a la WoW - but you should be able to walk through spirits. The number of times I have been trapped against one of my own spirits
its infuriating. And they r spirits after all.
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Oh please, no bunnyhopping in GuildWars. This isn't Quake or UT. Jumping really serves no purpose in an MMORPG.
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If they implement jumping, the next thing you know there will be matrix style jumping of walls then guns and missiles
...echo nuker anyone?
We really don't need jumping because the current mechanics of bodyblocking work quite well and it isn't a FPS.
Snowman
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You can only jump if you buy chapter 4. lol
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in chapter 5 you can change your hair style.
Chapter 6 you can ride mounts
Chapter 7 you get access to all the core features that they made you buy previous chapters for because people are sick of having to buy chapters just to get core features.
dreamhunk
yea know what gw will neverr ever make sales like wow. There are going to be other mmorpg's coming out and they will take gw spot and sunshine!
Why you ask well lets see soooo maney thing that are fun are lacking in thsi game! It act not like a true rpg but fps!
Just like how you killed pvp in this game HA! your going to kill gw! good luck with really!
there is a reason gw didnot make it sales! there is a reason that faction didnot sell well.
Why you ask well lets see soooo maney thing that are fun are lacking in thsi game! It act not like a true rpg but fps!
Just like how you killed pvp in this game HA! your going to kill gw! good luck with really!
there is a reason gw didnot make it sales! there is a reason that faction didnot sell well.
eudas
enabling jumping would be 1) lame (resurgence of the bunny hoppers) and 2) pointless at best, and downright unbalancing (to the point of ruining the game) at worst -- the game was designed to be 2-d and many aspects of the game balance depend on it.
eudas
eudas
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If body blocking was not intended to be part of team strategy, they wouldn't have implemented it in the first place. If they wanted you to easily reach the enemies back rank, they would just allow you to walk right through their warriors.
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yea know what gw will neverr ever make sales like wow. There are going to be other mmorpg's coming out and they will take gw spot and sunshine!
Why you ask well lets see soooo maney thing that are fun are lacking in thsi game! It act not like a true rpg but fps! Just like how you killed pvp in this game HA! your going to kill gw! good luck with really! there is a reason gw didnot make it sales! there is a reason that faction didnot sell well. |
GW not making sales? As of the 5th, Factions sits at #4 in the PC sales charts, Prophicies is still at #20
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yea know what gw will neverr ever make sales like wow. There are going to be other mmorpg's coming out and they will take gw spot and sunshine!
Why you ask well lets see soooo maney thing that are fun are lacking in thsi game! It act not like a true rpg but fps! Just like how you killed pvp in this game HA! your going to kill gw! good luck with really! there is a reason gw didnot make it sales! there is a reason that faction didnot sell well. |
Last I heard WOW hit 6 million suscribers I bet they are still counting my dormant account from 9 months ago, and many of my other friends. But GW hit the 2 million mark. Pretty good if ya ask me. I bet they both will last a long time and I wish both game companies well.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/index.html there is some facts to back me up, look at the sales at the bottom. Got any facts to back up factions not selling well?
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Hmm, jumping, turtles.... I see where this game is going
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I'll never understand why everyone wants to jump in every game they play.....maybe people finally had enough when they were cut off from Mhenlo by a pile of rubble that didn't even clear chest-height
dreamhunk
Lets Get to Healing
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Originally Posted by dreamhunk
yea know what gw will neverr ever make sales like wow. There are going to be other mmorpg's coming out and they will take gw spot and sunshine!
Why you ask well lets see soooo maney thing that are fun are lacking in thsi game! It act not like a true rpg but fps! Just like how you killed pvp in this game HA! your going to kill gw! good luck with really! there is a reason gw didnot make it sales! there is a reason that faction didnot sell well. |
dreamhunk
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2 mil+ sells in a year? You have NO idead what your talking about. BTW, i can tell english isnt your first language, and if it is, may god have mercy on you.
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if not all
GloryFox
Please Please Please No Jumping.... I Do Not Want To Begin Playing Mario Brothers....
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Why no jumping in towns?
Also, if they do implement jumping, I wonder how well they'll implement it. Will it just be a basic up and down jump? Will you be able to jump while running? If you're on higher ground than another game entity, whether it be friend or foe, would you be allowed to jump over them? What about jumping from walls to gain extra height? Would you be able to change direction mid-jump? I think it'd be interesting. |
2.Id think so, to allow for jumping obstacles while fleeing an opponent.
3.Possibly, but Id guess not from same level
4.Wouldnt gain much, and would have to be pretty close to a higher level destination to reach it
5.Id say no, too arcadey, jumping in one direction alone would be fine
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or how about they introduce tackling at the same time, as in, you run into someone at full speed and you both go down
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Adding jumping would be too much of a hassle. It really isn't necessary in the least. Say jumping is incorporated in the future releases. What about people playing on previous releases? And what about collision detection with other players/monsters/areas from the older maps?
Massive overhaul on the game engine. Do you know how much trouble there is to be had to with this? Not to mention the time it will take, which is time that should be spent focusing on existing problems than just the implementaion of an irrevalent feature. |
3-5.Its a game engine change, so all would get it.
6-7. No, not really, theres already the animation, they just need to make it work while running, instead of having your character stop when you use /jump.
8.I hope you dont think ANet's gonna drop everything theyre doing now to work on jumping, thats not how its done AFAIK. I think that they continue with what improvements they currently working on, and are just deciding things like have been asked(Will it just be a basic up and down jump? Will you be able to jump while running? If you're on higher ground than another game entity, whether it be friend or foe, would you be allowed to jump over them? What about jumping from walls to gain extra height? Would you be able to change direction mid-jump?), then look at maps, see how jumping changes accessability of various areas they think may cause balance/difficulty problems(if area can be accessed by jumping, will it reduce difficulty in that section more than they believe is acceptable?
I mentioned it would be nice to have jumping to escape enemies(by leaping fence, for example) when I first started playing. Glad to see something happening with it.
Vahn Roi
What, in this game, requires or would be easier to do if the player could jump?
Nothing.
Nothing.
Paul_Bunyan
Jumping would just plain cool to incoperate in GW. When I first started playing I was very miffed to learn that there was no jumping (basically). I would LOVE to have more environmental freedom on the maps, being able to jump over smaller obstacles (like half the average character height or somthing), and to be able to scale mountains and jump off cliffs and ridges, etc., without having to backtrack for 5 minutes to get down a 3 foot incline, and to be able to do "stunts" and the like, that would be awesome.
I assume there would be pretty realistic mechanics integrated for these jumps, but you would still be able to have tons more freedom and have much more in PvE, I think.
The engine would have to be reworked to have a true z-axis, but it would be certainly worth it.
I assume there would be pretty realistic mechanics integrated for these jumps, but you would still be able to have tons more freedom and have much more in PvE, I think.
The engine would have to be reworked to have a true z-axis, but it would be certainly worth it.
Dragonheart
i say, absolutely NO JUMPING! that would be totally lame. i've seen WOW (im scarred for life now) and its pretty annoying watching everybody soar through the air...
Juicey Shake
jumping would be nice.. would make me feel more at home with my fps roots :P..
+ running places would be so much cooler, take 4 minutes to go around a huge obstacle or climb over it.. not being limited by the terrain's edges would be really nice
+ running places would be so much cooler, take 4 minutes to go around a huge obstacle or climb over it.. not being limited by the terrain's edges would be really nice
dreamhunk
threre should
jumping
climbing
swiming
jumping inthis game!
I said it from day one in beta! I agin going say it agin!
RPG player like to explore they need and like freedom!
jumping
climbing
swiming
jumping inthis game!
I said it from day one in beta! I agin going say it agin!
RPG player like to explore they need and like freedom!
exiled mat
/jump ftw :P
you can jump, but you don't get anywhere with it XD
you can jump, but you don't get anywhere with it XD
mqstout
No jumping/swimming, etc, please. Having natural terrain boundaries helps them to be able to make better maps (and better quest control, by knowing where/where not a player can go much more easily). Removing the clipping on bushes would be quite nice, though.
Mr_T_bot
We don't so much need jumping so much as a working z-Acis and an overhauled collision detection system.
Gorebrex
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i say, absolutely NO JUMPING! that would be totally lame. i've seen WOW (im scarred for life now) and its pretty annoying watching everybody soar through the air...
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No jumping/swimming, etc, please. Having natural terrain boundaries helps them to be able to make better maps (and better quest control, by knowing where/where not a player can go much more easily). Removing the clipping on bushes would be quite nice, though.
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mqstout
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We don't so much need jumping so much as a working z-Acis and an overhauled collision detection system.
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Tingi
No jumping! On the other hand...swimming would be so cool! lol I would love to do that!
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maybe people finally had enough when they were cut off from Mhenlo by a pile of rubble that didn't even clear chest-height
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echo envitas
I'm always so suprised at how close-minded much of the GW community can be about new ideas, especially those that don't affect PVP directly. That doesn't go for everyone of course.
Anyway, I would LOVE jumping; it really adds a sense of freedom to the game that is hard to put into words. Its also another reason why many people won't play/quit this game, and frankly I'm all for doing anything to ensure that GW has a looong life.
Anyway, I would LOVE jumping; it really adds a sense of freedom to the game that is hard to put into words. Its also another reason why many people won't play/quit this game, and frankly I'm all for doing anything to ensure that GW has a looong life.
Andy_M
What next swimming and cliff diving ?
Hang on.....
Hang on.....
TheOneMephisto
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Originally Posted by echo envitas
I'm always so suprised at how close-minded much of the GW community can be about new ideas, especially those that don't affect PVP directly. That doesn't go for everyone of course.
Anyway, I would LOVE jumping; it really adds a sense of freedom to the game that is hard to put into words. Its also another reason why many people won't play/quit this game, and frankly I'm all for doing anything to ensure that GW has a looong life. |