Hi, as somebody who has the original Guild Wars game, but never got a character above lvl 15 (I just don't play it very often), I'm concerned that with Factions there will start to be fewer and fewer people playing the core game.
Since Factions gives you the original 6 chararcter types, what incentive to people have to play the core game? I know Factions gives the original 6 character types 25 new skills each, but does it also give them the core 50? Are there things that you can only get in the core game that you can't get in Factions?
Is the idea that people will mostly move along with the expansions, and the older ones will "die off" over time? For example, in a year with the contenent that the core game takes place on be mostly empty? Or will there be valid reasons to go there? i.e why would somebody that just bought Factions want to buy the core game?
Now that Factions is out, why play the core game?
sambront
LifeInfusion
B/c of waiting for CE? <-- problem
B/c you want elite skills from Prophecies? <-- good idea
B/c you aren't getting factions <-- bad idea
B/c you want elite skills from Prophecies? <-- good idea
B/c you aren't getting factions <-- bad idea
Kaospryx
There's some Prophecies only skills that are only in Tyria. Also, there doesn't seem to be many skill quests in Cantha, so people might save their skill points and venture back to Tyria to pick up some of the free skills.
Nessa
plus you can bring your canthan toon over to tyria and play through the game, for example i know someone who has ascended their canthan monk....
plus i'm sure there are some like you who have not finished the core game, and will go back to do stuffs here and there
plus i'm sure there are some like you who have not finished the core game, and will go back to do stuffs here and there
Grey Queen
reason for me to play the core game?
Because it´s much cooler when you have a char that has completed ALL...prophecies AND factions
Because it´s much cooler when you have a char that has completed ALL...prophecies AND factions
chessyang
1) farming for gold/materials in the core game because i have no clue where to farm in factions.
2) Brother and friends don't play much and factions is a waste of money for them. So we play the core together.
2) Brother and friends don't play much and factions is a waste of money for them. So we play the core together.
sambront
Well my story is that I have not completed the core campaign. I am at lvl 15. My concern is that most people will be moving to factions, leaving me with a smaller pool of people to play with to get to ascention. It sounds like this will be the case, at least partially. I think ArenaNet should have given players more incentive to play (or buy) the core game. Elite skills are good, but generally for the more hardcore. And getting skills through quests is a really good way. Is it true that you can get all 300 skills from the core came if you only own Factions, if you buy them all? I think a good thing would be to make those skills either only available if you had the core game, or only a portion buyable.
That's just my 2c.
That's just my 2c.
DoctorEvil
Actually, what I would expect to happen over the few months is to see the price of Guild Wars:Prophecies to start dropping, as it's been at $49.99 SRP since it's release. Dropping the price of Prophecies would get new players involved in GW, which in theory could lead to additional sales of Factions.
Personally, I still plan on spending quite a bit of time over in Chapter One, as I still have one character left who has not ascended, one character who has not finished all the missions, I still have to do all of the Glint quests, my favorite farming spots are still over there, not all of my guildmates have Factions yet, etc..........Plenty of reasons to still play in Tyria.
Also keep in mind, that I believe GW has sold over a million copies. That's alot of players. Did 100% of them go and buy Factions right away? Probably not. I think the player base for Prophecies will be just fine for the short term. Now over Chapter 24 comes out it might be a different story
Personally, I still plan on spending quite a bit of time over in Chapter One, as I still have one character left who has not ascended, one character who has not finished all the missions, I still have to do all of the Glint quests, my favorite farming spots are still over there, not all of my guildmates have Factions yet, etc..........Plenty of reasons to still play in Tyria.
Also keep in mind, that I believe GW has sold over a million copies. That's alot of players. Did 100% of them go and buy Factions right away? Probably not. I think the player base for Prophecies will be just fine for the short term. Now over Chapter 24 comes out it might be a different story
A R I A N
Factions is nothing else then repackaged core game...
Arena net just want to make money,
from core we have 4 char they have 6... next game will have 8.. skip one year and there you will have all 8 char in next game...till then you will finished Tyria map several times.
I know many MANY players, and more then half of them dont think to buy factions at all.
Because of that dont be scared that old gw will remain without newbies.
Arena net just want to make money,
from core we have 4 char they have 6... next game will have 8.. skip one year and there you will have all 8 char in next game...till then you will finished Tyria map several times.
I know many MANY players, and more then half of them dont think to buy factions at all.
Because of that dont be scared that old gw will remain without newbies.
Cherno
Honestly I have been less than impressed with Factions so far. It seems so much shorter and less a complete game. Once you finish it, there doesn't seem to be that much more to want to do except do it again to get the rest of the greens/armor/ etc.
There are the Elite missions and challenge missions and fighting for faction. But I suspect that once I finish the game with my Ritualist and Assasin and other tyrians I will be spending my time back in tyria.
There are the Elite missions and challenge missions and fighting for faction. But I suspect that once I finish the game with my Ritualist and Assasin and other tyrians I will be spending my time back in tyria.
felinette
Don't worry about nobody playing Prophecies. Factions seems to have limited replay value, so I suspect that once people have blown through it with a couple of characters, they'll be back playing in Tyria again, either with Tyrian characters, or ones they've brought over from Cantha. Especially those who mainly PvE.
The drag being, of course, that in order to play a Ritualist or Assassin in Tyria, you have to go through all the Factions content first. Can't create one and just jump into Prophecies. That'll be the only reason I play Factions from the beginning once I've gone through it a couple of times.
The drag being, of course, that in order to play a Ritualist or Assassin in Tyria, you have to go through all the Factions content first. Can't create one and just jump into Prophecies. That'll be the only reason I play Factions from the beginning once I've gone through it a couple of times.
BlackRecluse
i never want to play prophecies again. went back to cap WoH; everything was so boring and old and plain. i couldnt stand the henchmen and dunes of despair was freaking torture
EternalTempest
There are armor styles you can't get in Factions that are in pre.
There are skills for the core class's that faction's doesn't have.
Easy to go to farming spots for material you need (and are in high demand) then trying to find them in C2.
More places (c1/c2) moving around the map if you like to farm to not farm "too" much in one spot
Not everyone is going to buy C2
There should be a spike in sales / accounts when C1 get priced at the $19.99 that all software one day reach in the bargin bins
A few days in factions, seen the population go from vacant to decent again.
There are skills for the core class's that faction's doesn't have.
Easy to go to farming spots for material you need (and are in high demand) then trying to find them in C2.
More places (c1/c2) moving around the map if you like to farm to not farm "too" much in one spot
Not everyone is going to buy C2
There should be a spike in sales / accounts when C1 get priced at the $19.99 that all software one day reach in the bargin bins
A few days in factions, seen the population go from vacant to decent again.
unda dawg
u can do all the noob quests around ascalon city in prophecies then get a run to LA and do all the noob quests in factions giving easy double exp
Coolniceronguy
Hmmm.... to watch Rurik die, not once, but twice :P
h4mx0r
hmm... FoW and UW? sounds like Core only.
... and Moa Birds!!!
... and Moa Birds!!!
Ravex
i imagine eventualy after a few run throus of the game, i get the titles i care about,the cool looking armor, and some good items i might go back. but on second thout i probly wont i was only pvping up until factions came out was bored with the rest of the stuff.
Olfin Bedwere
Because it`s fun.
fiery
Factions skills are BLAH, I recently brought my Cantha warrior back to Tyria to cap some elites.
Joh
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B/c of waiting for CE?
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Mordakai
To earn more Titles!
Seriously, why play any game? For fun of course.
Seriously, why play any game? For fun of course.
liquiddrool
UW and FoW. AFAIK there is no entrance to them from Cantha, and nothing similar with good PvE rewards. Although I suppose ectro and shards are going down in price, ectos were 6k at NPC yesterday.
Raptox
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Factions skills are BLAH, I recently brought my Cantha warrior back to Tyria to cap some elites.
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August_Burnzz_Red
"plus you can bring your canthan toon over to tyria and play through the game, for example i know someone who has ascended their canthan monk....
plus i'm sure there are some like you who have not finished the core game, and will go back to do stuffs here and there"
How do you do this? Can anyone help a noob out? I just started playing this week. I have never played the original only Factions. I bought the original today because I thought it would give me more options as I role up new characters.
I have tried to find the answer in these forums but since they have the search feature turned off it is like looking for a needle in a hay stack.
I travled on the mainland North to the town (Cant rmember name) where you can "Travel" but that only took me to the PvP area (I think).
I simply want to take my character that I started on Factions and go to Tyria and see the world and do some quests there. However, I have no clue how to do it and its driving me mad. I spent like 2 hours today looking in game w/o any luck.
Any help wpuld be great. Thanks in advance for helping a hapless noob.
ABR
plus i'm sure there are some like you who have not finished the core game, and will go back to do stuffs here and there"
How do you do this? Can anyone help a noob out? I just started playing this week. I have never played the original only Factions. I bought the original today because I thought it would give me more options as I role up new characters.
I have tried to find the answer in these forums but since they have the search feature turned off it is like looking for a needle in a hay stack.
I travled on the mainland North to the town (Cant rmember name) where you can "Travel" but that only took me to the PvP area (I think).
I simply want to take my character that I started on Factions and go to Tyria and see the world and do some quests there. However, I have no clue how to do it and its driving me mad. I spent like 2 hours today looking in game w/o any luck.
Any help wpuld be great. Thanks in advance for helping a hapless noob.
ABR
old mcdonald
1.Armor
2.farming
3.fun
4.Obtaining NEW Titles specific to Prophecies
5.boredom
6.in need for a flashback
7.to help a new guildy and/or friend that just started out
8.you in love with presearing and watching it brun to the ground over and over
9.to get a pet uniwue to prophecies
10.etc etc etc blah blah blah
11.plenty of reason to go to prophecies even a year from now and with new players joining up every month, it will stay busy
12. to sell stuff no1 else wants - but sumtimes new players in ascalon will buy i.e. a clean fds or chaos axe
2.farming
3.fun
4.Obtaining NEW Titles specific to Prophecies
5.boredom
6.in need for a flashback
7.to help a new guildy and/or friend that just started out
8.you in love with presearing and watching it brun to the ground over and over
9.to get a pet uniwue to prophecies
10.etc etc etc blah blah blah
11.plenty of reason to go to prophecies even a year from now and with new players joining up every month, it will stay busy
12. to sell stuff no1 else wants - but sumtimes new players in ascalon will buy i.e. a clean fds or chaos axe
lennymon
There is in fact an entrance to both UW and FoW in Cantha, and its exactly the same UW. The newly renamed obsidian armor is available for the new professions, as well as the new armor types for the old professions at the forgemaster.
AFAYK updated
AFAYK updated
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UW and FoW. AFAIK there is no entrance to them from Cantha, and nothing similar with good PvE rewards. Although I suppose ectro and shards are going down in price, ectos were 6k at NPC yesterday.
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TwilightOblivion
umm, where is this entrance? is it just any statue of balthazar/grenth wen you have favor?
Kai Nui
They added 2 tyria specific titles, that's a new incentive. :/
storm of daeth
most likely just any statue i think... but how do you get ascended in factions then to get in? and anyway i was extremely dissapointed with factions and i spend probably 90% of my time in tyria just messing aroud trying to get 100% of the map explored.
Sereng Amaranth
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There is in fact an entrance to both UW and FoW in Cantha, and its exactly the same UW. The newly renamed obsidian armor is available for the new professions, as well as the new armor types for the old professions at the forgemaster.
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DeathDealer
because factions didn't make prophecies obsolete...prophecies is still fun (to me at least). I spend my time equally between factions and prophecies.
h4mx0r
tyria itself should be an incentive, as well as farming in tyria
Hockster
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UW and FoW. AFAIK there is no entrance to them from Cantha, and nothing similar with good PvE rewards. Although I suppose ectro and shards are going down in price, ectos were 6k at NPC yesterday.
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Andy_M
The tyrian quests seem to give me more of a sense of achievement. Compare Ashes/Galrath to the majority of the delivery boy missions in Cantha.
kvndoom
I can farm gold faster in Tyria. Farming in the desert is fun (for me), pays well, and is an easy way to burn away 2 or 3 hours when I have nothing else to do.
Carth`
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Because it`s fun.
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Although I'm loving Factions, I've found I've played more Prophecies this week. I wanted the protector title, and it was a nice challenge to do the bonuses I hadn't got yet with my monk. A big dislike about Guild Wars for me is the necessity for a monk, and how hard it can be sometimes. With all my other characters I get refused from parties because they need a monk, or I have to sit waiting for 30 mins for a monk to come. But when I play my monk, it's like everybody wants me to join them, and I can get on with playing. I enjoy the game most with that character.
The missions also go much better when I'm the monk, if you rely on other people or the henches, the mission can go horribly wrong.
Loralai
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Wrong. Cantha has access to FoW and UW from Kuh Zin Corridor.
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A Leprechaun
i dont think i will get factions for a while as i dont really like the oriental theme also i want to take my second charcter through the game first
Draxx
Because of the wonderful farming in Tyria...
because Tyria is a proper developed game when factions is just beginning,
because you enjoy it..
because you want the skills (Elites)...
because of the FoW farming or if you still need the greens in tyria.
and for sheer nastolgia value \m/
(few of the many answers to this silly post)
because Tyria is a proper developed game when factions is just beginning,
because you enjoy it..
because you want the skills (Elites)...
because of the FoW farming or if you still need the greens in tyria.
and for sheer nastolgia value \m/
(few of the many answers to this silly post
)