My Assassin Build A/W

Good idea with Shove to start off. Falling Spider doesn't actually require a Lead Attack. I wonder if you could work Entangling Asp in there somehow. It also has a knockdown.

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"We get:

[A/E]

Shock (Knockdown for Falling Spider)
Falling Spider (Poison)
Twisting Fangs (Deep Wound + Bleed)
Moebius Strike
Glyph of Lesser Energy (no rez, I'm usually dead in the event I'm asked to rez anyway)
Recall (To get away when you need to, can replace with Aura of Displacement [E] if you so choose)
Shadow Refuge (Does not drop armor like Heal Sig)



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there.. fixed

Due to energy return from crits and 3 pips from Recall exhaustion isn't really a problem as long as you don't try and spam it. I find I would rather have the points into shadow arts for a better heal and Dark Escape (to lead into battle) rather than put any into air.

More often then not enemies are either at half or below half health and moebius is just a nice reset for twisting for the next target, and of course a nice damage bonus too, As always Blind etc will be a problem, The only real problem with Shock is DP and in that way is not as good as Shove, one gives -10 energy and the other disables your heal and non attack skills for a few seconds.

Both have good advantages, Ele for the KD and Glyphs, warrior for the KD and stance/shouts if you feel so inclined to use any, In the end I chose not to invest attribute points into them for pvp - 16 dagger - 13 crit - 3 shadow arts (pve 16 - 10 - 6 - 6 tactics or air), Even if you have a longer attack chain you can still miss etc so I prefer a shorter chain, also if moebius doesn't finish off that boss who almost died, you can use twisting straight away again and wait out the exhaustion and recharge after you recall out (if ele). Or if you find yourself shut down recall out to your friendly target and aid them instead.. Or just wait for removal/end of hex/condition.

I used it in randoms and alliance battles and worked great, however DP will screw it up, It's far from the best build but like others I am attatched too much to Falling Spider+Twisting Fangs and don't see the need for more than 3-4 attacks, so while in pve I'd go for Shock, and pvp i'd go with Shove. Bummer that Horns of the Ox has to follow another attack :/

Remember you are not leading the attack so the enemy should not be at full health when you reach it, so Moebius should be working great in that instance, hell most non boss mobs are dead after Twisting.

If someone could find a nice short high damage combo that recycles fast and leads with a KD post it please and I will love you forever.

I personally think KD is still one of.. if not 'The' best ways to setup an attack.

Ideally ANET should change Horns of the Ox to have no previous attack requirement so we end up with .. Horns/Spider/Twisting/Moebius < start over, Then Assassins would be right where I'd like them attack wise

At the end of the day, i'm still not happy with the Assassin in general, but with a few tweaks and more time I may delete the warrior after all.

Nice looking build, but what attribute point setup do you use?

Certainly the A/E seems to be gaining popularity lately in GvG, could be observer error however.

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At the moment I use Jagged strike> Iron palm> falling spider> critical Strike
I still usually have time to drop jagged strike again to help the poison degen along.
I was using, Jagged>entangling asp> Falling spider> critical strike, but I found without the poison stacking from asp and spider the energy wasn't worth it.

Back to the first build, I also swap critical strike out for twisting fangs sometimes, with critical eye to back up the energy, I hardly have energy issues.

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woooo thread necromancy

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dagger 12+1+1
Critical 11+1
tactics 6
deadly arts - whats left

shove [e]
falling spider
twisting fangs
falling lotus strike
blades of steel
mark of instability
siphon speed
optional

yay!

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ive tried it but you have enough energy to pull off combo w/o the +3 spec due to the fact that you have to wait for your target to get up from the original kd or mark of instability doesn't trigger

Personally I run

Unsuspecting Strike
Exhausting strike
Shove[e]
falling spider
twisting fangs
dash
disciplined stance
feigned neutrality

dagger 14
crit 9
10 tactics
2 shadow arts

Victor likes to give a dying monk exhaustion when he tries to use WoH. Debate the build if you want, but my variation will probably stomp yours.
Oh yeah this is thread necromancy, RISE MY MINION!. (just fyi i had the build before the thread went up and was using it for a while...)I even ran into emperor makato (the op of that thread) kicked him out for refusing to take out grapple. lol >_>

At least got a few good lols out of this.

well the topic has been rezed again

My build is basically what you guys have been talking about except that the person cant get up AT ALL.

*Jagged Strike - makes them bleed but i only want it so i can use it really fast over and over again recharge time 1 second
*Entangling asp - I use this for 2 reasons. I can knockdown and poison from a distance.
*Fox Fangs - I use this because I couldn't find a faster recharging off-hand attack
*Horns of the Ox - I use this as my second way to knockdown foes.
*Critical Strike - I use this to get more energy which just adds to my zealious daggers .
*Way of Perfection OR Shadow Refuge - I use either of these to get good healing.
*Mark of Instability - This is a hex spell that allows me to knock the opponent down with a dual attack. MAKE SURE NOT TO USE THIS WITH HORNS OF THE OX CAUSE IT WILL BE A WASTE.
*Coward! (Elite) - This keeps the nooby monks or spell casters from running away.

Together this creates an effective build that will keep your apponent knocked down long enough for you or your team to kill him.