Title Suggestion - Based on XP

JC68

JC68

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Slovakia

DVD Forums [DVDF]

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Hi. I was just wondering, that it should be nice, if there is Title based on XP. For example every 500,000 XP or 1,000,000 XP next level of this Title. Also, they should make some rank emotes for this Title, so it should be something like PvE rank.

tONYY

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Troll farming for the win?

BakedMonkey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

R/

/not signed.

farmers will dominate this rank then

it'll be like

R3+ Only B/P Group Forming for Tombs!

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by BakedMonkey
farmers will dominate this rank then
You mean the same way people who PvP dominate the hero title?

CK0

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Better than "gold sink" for the win. If you want to imply about how 'skillful' a title can be, take a look at the 'Drunkard' title. All those people that want to get drunk and have the money have that title. Wah, wah, wah.

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloody Death
You mean the same way people who PvP dominate the hero title?
LOL. Burnt.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

50,000,000 exp

Bot Farmer

Need i say more?

Fargin Scotchsman

Fargin Scotchsman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

wudn't you like too know...

Noobs Of Steel

lol, my ele only got 1,000,000

sinisters chaos

sinisters chaos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

ATLANTA

No Clue [emt]

W/R

ummm... just to let you know, the bots are being banned as caught, and I dont really think those botters are caring to check this title..
this is a good idea, and let the grinding begin if they add it, anyways look at those people who just pvp all day, tehy just get mad fame form pvp, and get into good groups form their rank
I dont see how going into the troll caves over and over would be a bad idea to get the grinding started, and if GW didnt want this, how about nerfing 55 monks, and the riposte+deadly riposte+otehr skills troll pwning build.

Zui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by sinisters chaos
those people who just pvp all day, tehy just get mad fame form pvp, and get into good groups form their rank
Wrong. That's the HA monkeys. Ever consider the people who GvG? Considering that's an even higher level of PvP than HA is. Yet winning even high rated GvGs don't get you fame points.

As for the idea in the thread /unsigned

sinisters chaos

sinisters chaos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

ATLANTA

No Clue [emt]

W/R

yes, when i meant pvp, i meant HA "monkeys" as you call them hehe
i dont see why a title for HA would be made, but this would not be made... can someone please explain how being an HA monkey is any more LEGIT then being a PVE monkey??

please dotn respond with "HA takes more skill" because no matter how easy it is to do 55 farming, it was a VERY HARD build to learn/make, also... look at IWAY, not too hard if you ask me, same with bloodspike.. and MANY MORE..

Akhilleus

Akhilleus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'.

Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

W/Mo

/signed...
simply because it would be nice to see if that person you just invited into your party hit lvl 20 3 secconds beforehand, or whatever.
this would help a lot to determine the difference between experienced/unexperienced people with certain character types. (one of my complaints about rank is that its universal for the account...so someone who got all their rank as a monk could join your team as a warrior/ranger/nec/ele/mesmer/rit/asn, and suck like no tomorrow...exp is strictly based on that one character.) and it could actually work agasint botters since the rank wouldnt lie; if you get some monk in your party with 8 million exp...chances are its not from playing missions.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by sinisters chaos
please dotn respond with "HA takes more skill" because no matter how easy it is to do 55 farming, it was a VERY HARD build to learn/make, also... look at IWAY, not too hard if you ask me, same with bloodspike.. and MANY MORE..
Your kidding right... 55 farming is so easy to do its stupid. And seriously if you found it difficult to make the armour i begin to wonder what you were doing... LA tats cost about 2k, unless you go the whole hog and use Droks tats and make 4 different head tats too theres nothing even remotely difficult about making it. To use it all you do is
Use SB/Prot Spirit
Run in
Let the SS/SV kill stuff

Sure you can do it alone but its a waste of time if you ask me.

Giving out Titles for gaining exp is just stupid, power to the obsessive farmers in that case. None of my chars have over 2mil exp and none have done farming excessively. I just use them for different things, so exactly how is discriminating my 500k exp mesmer just because she doesn't have a title saying she has 5mil exp so i must therefore not know how to play it?

If you wanna see people who know how to play there character look no further than Protector of Tyria. It may not be entirely helpful, but you can guarantee people won't have used the exact same build from Great Northern Wall to Hells Precipice. Of course it doesn't help if people have skipped the Jungle because it simply sucks, but you can see how someone who has all 25/25 missions and bonus' done with that character knows how to play it.

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

YES I HAVE THREE MILLION EXPERIENCE AND I NEED EVERYONE TO KNOW IT

wait no NO you're an idiot.

Matsumi

Matsumi

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

/not signed

No thanks. I already ran into a guy in hells precipice not long ago who was bragging how good he was because he had 4 mil exp. Like that says anything at all about the skill of somebody. If they gave you some kind of title like "Old Mcfarmer" with no emote or anything, that would be kind of funny though.

Trylo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

[Here] | CKOD

E/R

the only 2 titles i believe in are:

Missions + Bonus

Elite Skill Capping

(and even the Missions and Bonus can be run, but after desert its hard to get this title)
Elite skills are the only title i recognize as it shows the person has enough experience to take on hard bosses and has the skill to work with other people in PUGs and cooperate.

Rank Titles? uh no. after IWAY i just gave up on that.

Wrath Of Dragons

Wrath Of Dragons

Burninate Stuff

Join Date: Aug 2005

New Mexico

E/Mo

someone mentioned a tractor emote once. i had to laugh, but its true. farming does not equal skill , and there are a LOT of farmers out there

sinisters chaos

sinisters chaos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

ATLANTA

No Clue [emt]

W/R

omfg can u guys get to my point already, LOOK AT THE HA FARMERS, NO ONE CARES ABOUT THEIR TITLES, IT TAKES NO SKILL!!, also kakumei i said 55 was hard to MAKE UP, and matsumi, if u are crying over sum1 bragging over 4 mil exp, look at all the emotes i have to go thru daily..

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

Title based on XP? That's not recognition of skill, it's no different than showing how long you've played the game. There's a big difference between one guy with 1 mil XP who has died more often than he should, compared to a guy with 1 mil XP who knows how to play the game. But of course, this title wont show that, and it's gonna bring alot more ignorant people who will only form groups with high level XP.

They do that already.

Ken Dei

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

"Signet of Disapproval"

rank is one of the worst thing ever to happen to PvP. Nuff said.

Kura Touzoku

Kura Touzoku

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Angel Sharks

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akhilleus
/signed...
simply because it would be nice to see if that person you just invited into your party hit lvl 20 3 secconds beforehand, or whatever.
this would help a lot to determine the difference between experienced/unexperienced people with certain character types.
That is the worst argument i've heard all day.
When i first hit the desert, all the level 20s were practically useless. I went back after i had ascended, to capture an elite, and i had a group of level 14-18s, and healer henchie do the desert missions faster than any all level 20 group i've been in before or since.
I've always said it, and i'll say it again. For this game, it's not really about level, it's about SKILL (within sensible reasoning. a level 2 will never beat a level 20). Penalising someone due to exp doesn't prove they're new to that character type. Exp will only prove how knew the character is, not the player's skill in using it.

/unsigned

m0gden

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Arkangels

/signed

I don't know if you guys invite people based on their titles but I do not. The fact that someone comes in with the tag "1337 farmer" won't make me jump to bring him in my group. I didn't realize that you all didn't sign this because you assumed that titles = respect.

The only thing these PvE titles do is give something to work towards as a little bonus. You don't get respect from any of the players out there for most anything. The only time I've ever thought "Hey, pretty neat" was when I saw a guy with 90% of Tyria explored. Does this mean I want him in my perfect group? Lord no!

Most of the PvE titles are tied to farming anyway. I'm willing to bet that 70% of the people with the gold item drop or chest opening titles are all farmers anyway. Do you notice how many people do chest runs in FoW? They will soon be getting both titles for rares and chest but this doesn't mean they're any good for grouping with. We don't and shouldn't assume they are great people to play with.

Finally, my rationale for the FoW chest runners being farmers is simply the cost of doing so. Flame on all you want but the way I look at it the average player does not have 150,000 gold laying around to spend on keys. These titles are for fun, not animosity amongst players!

TheLordOfBlah

TheLordOfBlah

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

None

Mo/N

500,000 EXP isnt hard to get. Make the highest rank at like 3mil or something.

Akhilleus

Akhilleus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'.

Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kura Touzoku
That is the worst argument i've heard all day.
When i first hit the desert, all the level 20s were practically useless. I went back after i had ascended, to capture an elite, and i had a group of level 14-18s, and healer henchie do the desert missions faster than any all level 20 group i've been in before or since.
I've always said it, and i'll say it again. For this game, it's not really about level, it's about SKILL (within sensible reasoning. a level 2 will never beat a level 20). Penalising someone due to exp doesn't prove they're new to that character type. Exp will only prove how knew the character is, not the player's skill in using it.

/unsigned
but theres a good chance those lvl 20s were morons who have never been through the game.
regarldess of how they got it; someone with 3 million exp almost definetly knows how to use a character better than someone with 200k (unless tis a monk in which case, chances are its a 55er).
the point is; if you are forming a party of random players, and lets say there are 2 w/ns trying to get into your party, 1 has 230,000 exp, the other has 1.1 million...which, if you know nothing else about them, would you take?
for me; the latter.
they might be worse, for all i know the guy with 230k exp has 10 warriors across 14 accounts...but, if you base your decision off of simply the information provided, the latter is the obvious choice.
personally i think you should be able to display exp, the number of elites you have while working on skill-hunter, and a "character completion" title...where it displays a percentage basis of all-encompasing things.
ie, takes into acccount missions, bonuses, all skills for all character classes, and works it into a percentage, and shows how far along you are with that one character.

sinisters chaos

sinisters chaos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

ATLANTA

No Clue [emt]

W/R

ok i have to sign this AGAIN

people on this thread are 100% ignorant that all u need to get a pvp title is time not skill, thats actually how it is for everything in this game... time. if anyone can tell me how it is any more LEGIT to farm rank and get a title than to farm experience and get a title, please imform me,

Zui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by sinisters chaos
if anyone can tell me how it is any more LEGIT to farm rank and get a title than to farm experience and get a title, please imform me,
Rank hinges on a team, and is infact competitive in nature. You compete against other teams, and the winner gets fame. The more you win consecutively, the more fame you get, and the more you win the harder the teams you face get(usualy - there's always the team that had 6 deaths vs zashien that skips to halls). If you're an exceptional player in an exceptional team, you'll likely get much more fame than that unranked random group of players that are actualy new.

The fastest way to gain experience is to run outside a cave, and kill trolls(using a +300% exp scroll before they die). The spawns are somewhat varried sure, are any of them actualy harder in diffuculty? Maybe slightly(more trolls, maybe alot of nasty avicara outside the cave..). But to be honest the more you do it, the diffuculty does not progress, and there is no team play involved. If you're a super good 55 vs a noobie 55, you're not going to get that much more experience an hour, maybe 5 runs worth tops.

Any amount of fame or experience can be "farmed." It's just that in PvP, there are actualy factors not in your control, that can't be predicted. PvE farming, you have absolutly none of that.

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloody Death
You mean the same way people who PvP dominate the hero title?
prejudice? he?

Ashleigh McMahon

Ashleigh McMahon

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

North East England

WoTU[Warlords of the Underworld]

Mo/Me

Solution= Make a cap on how much exp goes into this title daily.
I am not suggesting a experience cap, but a cap that prevents more than a certain ammount of xp going towards the title.


Ashleigh


Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
50,000,000 exp

Bot Farmer

Need i say more?

led-zep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

/signed with a big thick black pen

pve'rs need some kind of emote like this and xp emote would be great, titles are just crap imo especially as they are for pvp'ers as well

Spawn of Aires

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

/signed

The HA people have there title and so should the PvE. Hey, even pvp people can acquire enough xp to get this title