Fix the Stupid survivor title!!

I spent 4 days preciously managing everything with my ritualist, and once I walked outside the market place at lvl 18 I see my health drop to 19, so i quickly closed guild wars. only to boot it back up and see that I been RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed out of my suvivor title. it seriously needs to be what it says "Gained X amount of experiance without dieing" Not what it does "Gain X amount of experiance without having 1 death from the time of character creation." I was 15,000 experiance points away from "survivor" now I either have to regret it and say forget about it, or go back and do all that stupid grind again.

I'm confused. What exactly happened that is wrong with it? It looks to me like you're saying you died before earning the title, so you didn't earn the title.

Thats what it does, get it over it. Its the exact same as Hardcore mode on Diablo, except without the 'you may never play this char again' penalty. Most of us will never have a shot at this title as we can't get it with current characters.

Lag death.... if that happens to the next character I create im gonna freak.

Cry me a river...

cries a river

in any case, would be neat to see survivortitle get reinitiated after every death if you haven't gotten the title yet.

/signed

so you're saying that you tried for the survivor title and failed so now you want them to move the goalpost for you so you can still achieve it. wouldnt that just devalue the title?

/signed

/signed

I got 250k exp without getting killed on my war so far. I want my survivor title -_-


Either do that or remove it completely. Otherwise you'll get people survivorquitting all the time.

/signed

No man is a robot, so don't treat us like one, everyone can make a mistake, say you spend many hours at you character and suddenly through a minor human error you die. Oh I can already see the suïcide rate rising, due the geeks who want these titles so bad.

The funniest thing I've seen happen with these titles is we had a Monk that refused to kill herself even though she went in a different portal than the rest of us (the Celestial mission - we all decided to die and start over), and the /resign thing wasn't working. So we all had to leave our party and map back to town. Of course most of the group just left than.... it was the monks fault in the first place...lol. Is there a "Moron" title?

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It'd be nearly impossible for Tyria chars to get this title if nothing is done about it since almost everybody dies atleast once at the academy.

Where does it say this title was meant to be easy?

You didn't earn the title - you don't get the title. If you wanted it so bad, you should stay where you are safe.

I know I'll never get it for my primary character - oh well! He died, and now doesn't deserve it!

How about they just give the title to everyone when the character is created, or for any existing character. Seems fair. No more crying over it!

And lower Drunken Master to 10 minutes.
Tyrian Protector to only missions - not bonuses.
Wisdom Seeker to 10 items (Gold/Purple/Blue).
Treasure Hunter to 10 chests.
Skill Hunter to only the Elites for your primary profession.

That sounds about right for all the whiners that can't earn their titles.

I also made a thread about fixing the stupid Survivor Title:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3022590

I will support and and all threads dedicated to fixing the horribly botched implementation of this title.

/signed

my warriors died 351 times, is there a Death magnet title!! LOL oh but he has over 1.8mill xp!!

Your thread is full of vague notions about how you'd "earn" this title; even though you're unwilling to give up your xp, skills, weapons, and armor despite the fact that the very notion of a "Survivor" would be to play through the game starting with nothing and surviving. Not to mention the fact that if we were to apply your theory as to why you "deserve the right to earn the title," to other titles, it would make absolutely no sense.

Can't earn the title? Tough cookies.

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I just don't like that the "Survivor" title sounds like it punishes people for dying.

And I'd like to be able to try to earn it with some of my first characters, the ones who constantly get wailed on in PvP; is that possible? Or did you (the game designers) want to keep the Role Players out of PvP as much as possible, since you want PvE and PvP as separate as they can be, and you can only really earn "Survivor" if your character never participates in PvP. Ever.

I support making Survivor "Earn X experience without dying.... again".

Added to that is the fact that often enough, it's not always your fault you died, and you have a recipie for "I never want to play with anyone else, I only want to do things by myself".

/not signed - how is this broken or bothced?

You died - end of title. Like Aki said - if you want to lose your deaths to get a shot to earn this title - you should lose all the bonuses as well - level, skills, armor etc. I'm guessing you don't want to make that trade.

The main argument is this..Currently it is IMPOSSIBLE for my Current character 11 months old kitted out with glorious armor and weapons and most importantly TIME AND ENERGY INVESTED, to get this title. Its not Hard to get, its not "a bit tricky" it's IMPOSSIBLE for my main guy to get it. That is a problem and there is no argument against it, it means i cannot have a (theoretical) 100% complete game, UNLESS i start again /not-gonna-happen.

It's wrong, u can't fault the logic.

The way to ensure abusive farming is not the means to getting it easily for older characters is, to nerf xp the way drops are nerfed aftera couple hours or so, a steady xp drop if u farm 1 specific enemy over and over.

imho.

I'll agree to this as long as I get all of the other titles available without having to meet their requirements either.

was it there when u created your character? No.. so how do u expect to be eligible? with that char u prob died in pre-searing at some point anyway, so u lost it at that point...

Why should xp be nerfed? because ur gettin upset that u cant get a title for ur older character so now everyone should suffer?

and erm u havent invested time and energy to get the title

End of the day its a new title so you have to start from when its instated to get it, theres no backdating and i dont think it should be allowed, atm its a title that shows you put a lot of effort into it and used skill to do it, its a lot harder to get to lvl 20 without dying then it is to be at level 20 and farm the same amount of xp without dying..

if you really want the title accept the challenge and do it the proper way there are no shortcuts

I am fully capable of doing anything Anet gives the opportunity to do in this game. I am not capable of getting the Survivor Title on my main character - the only place where that title matters - because of the horrible implementation of the Survivor Title system which allows no opportunity for old main character to have a chance to earn it.

My argument need not be applied to other Titles because other Titles can be earned on old, main characters - the only place that matters for them to be. As it should be for the Survivor Title also.

The Survivor Title is the only one that discriminates against old players and valued main characters therefore it is a uniquely botched situation.

My argument on this matter makes all the sense in the world. I have seen no rational argument against it. Only posts with the implicit tone "Anet is perfect so stop criticsizing things they screwed up." and/or "Since I am incapable of being competitive or achieving anything hard in this game, I don't want anyone else to have titles either".

I am perfectly willing to play through the game again from scratch with my main character and forsake my stuff on a temporary basis until the Title is earned. After I have earned the Title I should be able to get back my Pumpkin Helm and super expensive armor and weapons and all the skills my character has ever earned.

Or instead of all these complex things, Anet can simply make "Survivor" account-based.

wow why isnt this thread closed, just a bunch of people talking non sense over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over ....

/not signed, for I dont want the game to be crowded with alt+F4 idiots. Sorry, but I dont want them in my team, ad I think it's not asking too much.

If you were fully capable of doing anything you'd stop whining, make a new character, and deal with the fact that you can't get it on your main character anymore. Or, you'd delete your current main character and remake it.

Well let's hope for your sake that the now unattainable areas in Tyria like the Guild Island and Pvp arenas/staging areas do not count towards the % of the map that's unlocked. Otherwise you're wrong there.

There that seemed fairly rational; but perhaps you don't think so because that person doesn't agree with you. You died and that's simply a fact, not discrimination, thus you're not intitled to being called a "survivor." And no I don't think that Anet is perfect and everything they do is perfect; infact, I think they have a lot to work on, I just don't think that their main focus should be on one title so that you can be happy.

Well there-in-lies the problem, you've already got the spoils of being able to fight and die for your 'loot.' So it would be unfair to everyone else that got their title the hard way. And if you're that unwilling to give up what you have to get this title, then perhaps you never really deserved it in the first place. Because you sure as hell have to sacrifice a lot of time and effort to get it; the people who did/do get the survivor title don't get to get as much good stuff as you have on your main character. And they don't get to use that character for anything that is imaginative or in the least bit risky, they have to practically give up an entire character slot and play it safe.

So no, your arguement makes no sense at all. If you're not willing to sacrifice what others have sacrificed in order to get the title then you don't deserve it.