You can buy 15% -5 weapons now too.

In Vasburg Armory...I'm liking how A.net is finally making *almost* eveyr possible weapon combination crafable.

yay for even more screwed up economy and lesser goals in the game

Really, explain to me how supply meeting demand makes for a screwed up economy? A screwed up economy is one where demand far exceeds supply and prices skyrocket.

Gli has the right idea, the economy was screwed before, not its reasonable and things are becoming affordable. allready found 20 20 sundering golds.

I liked it how everything was expensive. There were items that u can keep knowing its high valued. Now, since everything is so cheap, there is not one "uber" item you can keep and feel proud.

lol.. glad i sold mine for 100k+ before Factions.

With no rare items it will sure change the gameplay for lots of people. No more farm to get money to get good items. But I guess GW was also more geared towards PvP anyway, so it makes sense to make items at least more acessible to everyone. Now, if only I could craft a mini-pet...

Personally I think the people who are upset are:

-People who can't squeeze every bit of gold out of people as they want. AKA Greedy *******
-People who's pride in GW revolves around having the best items.
-People who think the game is all about farming.
-People who think that not everyone deserves an equal chance at getting perfect items.

No worthy rare items to keep, reintroduced nerfed items (i.e. HoD) .... what is gold for hmmmm.... A mini pet xD

Im upset about this system, but im not greedy bc i donate alot of gold out to friends and newbies.

basically the people who have the Diablo2 mentality

Actually, it looks like the new Zodiac skins are going to be the very top end items this time around. Considering its only accessible by 1 alliance, the price is going to remain really high.

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Wait one more week and you'll see WTS Zodiac xxxx cheap!!! =p

I resent that. I played D2 (and D2:LoD) for a very long time prior to playing GW. Not everyone who played D2 would fit into your little stereotype. I enjoyed building characters. (Although it's far more flexible in GW than D2 was. If you misspent a point in D2 and it screwed over your build, you had to make a new character.) I didn't really enjoy farming or level grinding

There was a sense of pride in acquiring the best items, especially if you did it bot-less. And no, everyone doesn't deserve to have "the best." However everyone has the same opportunities to acquire "the best". I can afford materials and gold to make 1.5k or I can save and buy 15k. It's a matter of personal choice. If I really need armor right now and can't afford it, I can make use of the collectors. It's the same with weaponry. I can buy it, craft it or utilize a collector.

Perfect Items were already available from the collectors and weapons dealers.

Demand exceding supply is what keeps the econemy going. If the supply excedes the demand you end up with a surplus of stock and lose money. If everything is worth the same then what is the point of trading and selling. If you think that it takes hours to sell 1 weapon now just wait until thousands of others are selling the exact same thing.

could have sworn i wrote "basically the people who have the Diablo2 mentality" not "basically everyone who's played Diablo2"

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and err the 'best' in question here is the +15% -5 energy weapon... there was a collector/crafter for this previously?

I like.. given the utter lack of any real trade system I havent gotten my -5 energy sword or axe yet, so once I get there I'll craft one. Thanks for the 411

We have to keep up with our times. More like World of Warcraft mentality these days.

On the topic: Adding more collectors is nice. Only ones complaining are the people who exploited the extraordinary prices (maybe we are going to see some interesting threads on that matter). Pretty please Anet give us dye collectors!

already crafted my katana there. Its sweetalicious!

To me the HOD sword is a separate issue from the economy discussion. The HOD sword was available, but then removed from the game - leaving existing items in the game. That created an unfair disadvantage for those who came later in the game. Now the +5 energy mods are available to all and thats a fair and good thing.

As far as the economy - give it time. It's typical behavior to increase the 'goodies' for customers during new product introduction. Watch for things to settle back to normal in a few weeks. Eventually we'll see new trends and be able to tell which new weapons (and old weapons) remain common and which have become suddenly rare.

I like the fact that now many of these items are craftable/collectable whereas previoulsy some of them (15% -5e or -10al) were hard to find drops.

And while previously there was no crafter/collector for 15% always items, they were still available. The only one that was truly and totally out of balance was the +5e HoD sword. That one item made some millions and others paupers. I'm quite pleased that the market speculators in an attempt to keep the HoD sword prices up were busily squashing news/rumors of +5e drops in Factions. It was amusing to see those sitting on mules full of HoD swords scrambling to sell them off while the price was high all the while reassuring their buyers that "no there aren't any +5e swords in Factions, it's a runor".

I've seen alot of weapons you can get now in Cantha.
I've also seen the new skin elm staffs. That are 20/20