So whos idea was this two word minimum anyway?

Sidrakket

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

So, ive had factions for a week now. Still looking at the character creation screen trying to think of a name for my assassin.

Ive only ever had two other PVE characters, (a mesmer and a war) and both of them where hell to name also.

Ive been playing online rpgs since 1998, in ever single one, my characters had a one word name. I have built up quite a few names i am comfortable with, they all have one word.

Now some people may not understand why a name is so important. You are a bunch of newbies who have no buisness playing an online rpg, and are probably the same people who call people by their real names if they know them=p Im used to investing years in my characters and nothing sucks more than deciding you dont like your name at some later point. The years have given me a few names i am comfortable with and know that i can use, with out fear of not liking them later on, all one word. Even some of my characters who have longer multi-word names always only have the first in games showing.

But this two word minimum just screws that all up. So I ask, who was the person who decided to have said minimum? I wish to think ill of them while i watch the hours fall away.

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

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So that you can't be XsniperkillerX. Who cares? Make X sniperkiller X.

EndoftheSyringe

EndoftheSyringe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Apathetic Eaters of Babies

W/Mo

You are whining about a NAME rule! Christ.

The point is to make your character feel like a person that has become a great hero. Instead of "lollerboy1202", the naming rule encouraged people to give their characters first and last names, making it a bit more "epic", if you will. It worked, too. I don't think I've seen even one name with a string of numbers or something like "XxemogirlxX".

You need to be more creative. I can come up with DOZENS of two-word names that I am quite fond of.

Sidrakket

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

No, the naming rule encourages people to do things like type one word names with a space between each letter. Oh look! Its F R A N K. How are you doing? I have seen many names that are like "Ill randomname Ill" (I and l looking the same in game)

So instead of just naming their character.. "Bob" for example, its "Bob X" or "Bob The Awesome" or somehting equaly stupid... not that bob is not awesome, im sure he is.

And no. Im not that creative. Thats always been my problim. I have maybe 5 or 6 names that i just reuse over and over for all the characters i have ever made. Once i make a character that character becomes "Real" FOR ALL ETERNITY! And with out a good and decent name to associate them with i would rather simply clump their experiances in with another character that is close, and just pretend they are an alternate dimention coppy or some such.

See i started playing mmos when things where not so static, there where real identities and personalities in the community back then, and as such there where always totaly awesome names that did totaly awesome things. Names are important, much more important than looks actualy. Your name is your lable, you ARE your name. Need a good name.

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

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it seems you have a very good imagination. i consider myself to have a good imagination, and i could've never came up with the "FOR ALL ETERNITY" defense for any of mine inane requests.

here's an idea: how about using that imagination of yours and come up with a good two-word name? if you're good enough, maybe enough people will get a clue and make good names themselves.

plasmasword

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Or you can just surround your name with i's : I Sidrakket I

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidrakket
You are a bunch of newbies who have no buisness playing an online rpg, and are probably the same people who call people by their real names if they know them=p
Yeah uh what?

UndeadRoadkill

UndeadRoadkill

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

There was a couple of times when I would have liked to be able to pick one name, but the limitation forced me to work around that, and ended up coming up with a name with more meaning.

I had thought the thing promotes coming up with a real name-surname thing. Not that people don't make inane OMG1337FPS names anyway.

Sidrakket

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
Yeah uh what?
The seed falls at the foot of the Mother Tree.

robrobrob

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

It was my idea.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
Yeah uh what?
He's a die hard roleplayer. I feel your pain man. Maybe try to combine two of your names together (one as a first name, another as a last name).

All those I Bob I and F R A N K names are more common in PvP then PvE I might add.

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

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rpgs since '98, you say? well, i've been playing rpgs when you connected to them with a program called TELNET, when everything was carefully and lovingly rendered in TEXT, when battle sequences consisted of rolling text saying:

you hit target
you hit target
you hit target
you hit target
target hit you
target hit you
target hit you
target hit you

hell, i've been playing rpgs when you have total control in character appearance. however, you had to describe then in TEXT, where imagination is key for EVERYTHING, and nobody complained about stupid name restrictions.

you, sir, by your own description, know NOTHING about rpgs.

Daemon Dremora

Daemon Dremora

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Millington, TN

Seele Erntemaschine {Nein}

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidrakket
The seed falls at the foot of the Mother Tree.

ummm.....to me it seems like you have a very good imagination so put it to work and stop complaining.....plz for the sake of all humanity stop the complaining.....lol.....

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidrakket
The seed falls at the foot of the Mother Tree.
My question was more directed toward your IMMEDIATE elitism, in your OPENING POST. Most people wait until at least the third post before getting airs of superiority.

You've got a nice horse there. It's pretty high. How about you come down?

Seriously though, you've only been playing since 98? I started roleplaying on IRC before then--perhaps right around that time, now that I stop to think about it.

Whiplashr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

I can sympathize with the OP, I have several names that I use in many games depending on the class of character I'm playing. I had a hard time coming up with some good last names for some of my chars.

Some advice.. first, there are several websites with fantasy name generators. I used some of them in the past and then fiddled with results to come up with names I liked.

Another thing you can do is use anagrams of existing names/words. It's often easier to create words/names in this manner than creating entirely new words/names from scratch. It's common for TV writers to use anagrams of other words/names in their creations.

Sidrakket

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by moriz
rpgs since '98, you say? well, i've been playing rpgs when you connected to them with a program called TELNET, when everything was carefully and lovingly rendered in TEXT, when battle sequences consisted of rolling text saying:

you hit target
you hit target
you hit target
you hit target
target hit you
target hit you
target hit you
target hit you

hell, i've been playing rpgs when you have total control in character appearance. however, you had to describe then in TEXT, where imagination is key for EVERYTHING, and nobody complained about stupid name restrictions.

you, sir, by your own description, know NOTHING about rpgs.
There was a graph that i saw. It had the number of people playing mmos from like, the early 90s (muds included) to 2005. The number has jumped by about 100 times since i started playing. I am fully aware that there are persons out there who are my better, however i am secure in my knowledge that i am quite supirior to at least 99 out of every 100 persons i see. This is not basless pride or arrogance mind you. But simply my well earned right. You also have claim. Basicaly, in the grand scope of things. THere is pre EQ and post EQ.

crpg, online crpg is also different, as a persistant world is much departed from pen and paper and such. So i can not, for example, be trumped by someone who played d&d back in the day=p

Anyway. Names. agani;


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Sidraket (i dropped the extra k to try and get people to pronounce it right.. it didint work >< the name has two sylables. THe first is sid, like cid, the second is raket, like what you hit a tennis ball with. Sid-rakket) is my mesmer name, and also the current name of my space vampire pirate, who is also a wizard, in eve online. So not an assassin name.

In my past, good rogues (and the assassin is a rogue) that i have known have always had somewhat trashy throwaway names. Once i recall with great admiration was a rogue by the name of "Magic Fox", who was realy 'neato' and talked about ddr pads and comic books. Total crappy rogue wierdness i say. (not that i care about comic books or ddr, but see its fitting for a rogue, so my assassins random chat would probably include like things, i take great care to say random lines of text like im some sort of a chat-bot to add flavor to any pug im in). Infact a good friend of mine played a rogue in one game, whos title was "Vaccume sucker" haha, vaccume sucker! Say it! SAY IT! It sounds so rogue like. The 'ume' in vacume is emphasized and elongated. vaccuummmeeee! Oh man. Like some sort of cheap cable porno. Thats what a rogue is, a cheap cable porno.

I need a name like that. Like Evanita Flows. Thats a classic name. Its also already used by my friend half a decade ago on a throwaway character. So i am forever barred from it. Because i desire soo much to be origional, because im insecure.

Oh, and the humor of my inability to spell superior is not lost to me=P

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidrakket
There was a graph that i saw. It had the number of people playing mmos from like, the early 90s (muds included) to 2005. The number has jumped by about 100 times since i started playing. I am fully aware that there are persons out there who are my better, however i am secure in my knowledge that i am quite supirior to at least 99 out of every 100 persons i see. This is not basless pride or arrogance mind you. But simply my well earned right. You also have claim. Basicaly, in the grand scope of things. THere is pre EQ and post EQ.
Haha what

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidrakket
and also the current name of my space vampire pirate, who is also a wizard,
HAHAHAHAHA WHAT

Okay let's combine every HORRIBLE ROLEPLAYING CLICHE into ONE CHARACTER.

Whispering Siren

Whispering Siren

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidrakket
i am secure in my knowledge that i am quite supirior to at least 99 out of every 100 persons i see.
This will earn you no points and no help here. Please try to come to these forums with a better attitude.

Matsumi

Matsumi

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

I would say the Name Surname has been around for quite some time in rpg's. Surname's usually would tell some kind of origin or family history behind the character or who they are affiliated with for race, evil/good allignment, etc. The more well known your character becomes in an rpg, the more popular the surname becomes, or more noticed. This of course was more popular in paper and pencil rpg's than online ones. That's usually why I spend most of my time on the Name of my character in the creation screen for any game I play. Because Names, to me, are a bit more important even though nobody will actually care what my name is in game, it matters only to me. So, I guess mine tend to sound more fantasy-like or whatever, because if I'm part of a story, I really wouldn't want to be referred to as scooby doo or something.

Sidrakket

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
Haha what
Aye, there is a difference between pride and knowing your station in the world. I am an elitist yes. But i am much more apt to backup the inherant superiority of those who, in ages past, where there just above me than to speak of my own greatness.

Quote:
HAHAHAHAHA WHAT


Okay let's combine every HORRIBLE ROLEPLAYING CLICHE into ONE CHARACTER.
I dont have amnisia.

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidrakket
I dont have amnisia.
And you aren't an impossibly beautiful woman, and you don't have godlike powers and everyone has heard of you and fears you, and your name doesn't start with "Lord".

But still. Come on. That's just awful. I roleplayed for years upon years, and I cannot count the number of such cliches I saw--it gets ooooooold.

Sidrakket

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matsumi
I would say the Name Surname has been around for quite some time in rpg's. Surname's usually would tell some kind of origin or family history behind the character or who they are affiliated with for race, evil/good allignment, etc. The more well known your character becomes in an rpg, the more popular the surname becomes, or more noticed. This of course was more popular in paper and pencil rpg's than online ones. That's usually why I spend most of my time on the Name of my character in the creation screen for any game I play. Because Names, to me, are a bit more important even though nobody will actually care what my name is in game, it matters only to me. So, I guess mine tend to sound more fantasy-like or whatever, because if I'm part of a story, I really wouldn't want to be referred to as scooby doo or something.
Well see, as i said my characters in the past have had more to their name. But i feel it is only proper for their 'first name' to be what you see hovering below/above them. I mean, okay you are stan the warrior. Maybe later on it is discovered that you are infact part of some great noble family with divine powers or something. Great. This shouldnt be advertised to the world.

But then this shows the difference between pen and paper sort of RPing and crpging. In a crpg people realy do see that name hovering above your head. The worlds are combined the goblin is real but so is the pizza you just ate for dinner. So you dont just 'pretend' that you dont know who the other persons name is. Its floating right there above your head.

And this is something that i have spent countless hours discussing and pondering on. And truley, after many scientific experements its been proven, with science that my way is best.

Sidrakket

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
And you aren't an impossibly beautiful woman, and you don't have godlike powers and everyone has heard of you and fears you, and your name doesn't start with "Lord".

But still. Come on. That's just awful. I roleplayed for years upon years, and I cannot count the number of such cliches I saw--it gets ooooooold.
You realy saw someone who was all those things? Darn, i thought i was constructing a big joke character everyone could have a laugh at ;_; i had no idea that there where infact large numbers of space pirate vampire wizards out there D=

If it makes you feel better most my time im not casting spells or being a pirate or even drinking blood. Im just eating people. Im a canibal see, also.

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidrakket
But then this shows the difference between pen and paper sort of RPing and crpging. In a crpg people realy do see that name hovering above your head.
Exactly. Exactly exactly exactly.

Guild Wars IS NOT a proper roleplay environment. At all. It's not set up for it, it doesn't support it whatsoever.

Edit: Sidrakket, tack on Ninja too. Space vampire pirate ninja wizard. Then you'll be BEST.

Fitz Rinley

Fitz Rinley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Rusty Rose

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by EndoftheSyringe
You are whining about a NAME rule! Christ.

The point is to make your character feel like a person that has become a great hero. Instead of "lollerboy1202", the naming rule encouraged people to give their characters first and last names, making it a bit more "epic", if you will. It worked, too. I don't think I've seen even one name with a string of numbers or something like "XxemogirlxX".

You need to be more creative. I can come up with DOZENS of two-word names that I am quite fond of.
I can come up with many many names, from different cultural backgrounds. But I also remember an old belief: The name of a thing is that thing and carries the authority of that thing. Names are significant reperesentations of self-alter-ego and charcter concept.

What would have been more affective, and looked more correct, is if the name convention required two sections. One a full name, and the other a tag name. One of my characters was Sesquipedelian Mag. It would ahve ben appropriate for him to have a nick name for appearing in tall the conversation texts. I can see: Sesky, Quip, and Mag. There is no place to enter such an alternate name.

I'd like prepositions and articles in names to be in lower case. I would find that thrilling.

Fitz

Skanks

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

New Zealand

R/Mo

I always give my characters the same last name, makes them family

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

LMAO, Sidrakket, please tell me you're kidding. Please!

First and foremost, if you are a 'hardcore' role player, Guild Wars is not the game for you. Hate to say it, because I really do love RPGs, but this game just simply isn't high on that style of play. I do come from the pen-and-paper RPG stock of players, but I don't enjoy GW in that sense. GW is a timekiller, plain and simple.

That is not to say that you can't role play IN Guild Wars, I'm just trying to make clear that flashing credentials (if that's what you wanna call it) of RPG conquests while trying to make a point about GW is lost in the translation.

Regardless, on your point, two-name minimum serves 2 primary functions: 1) It allows players to be creative in naming their avatars, and think outside the box of standard internet handles; and 2) It makes it less likely that a name you create is used by someone else, unless your highly uncreative.

Sidrakket

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Allowing multi-word names but not requireing them would have solved that just as nicley=P

And no, i dont roleplay so to speak. I immerse myself. Most of my characters act exacly the same (though i do tend to naturaly pick up slightly different manorisms subconciously, but nothing terribly noticable). But i do get involved in the reality of the game world.

I dont want a place to roleplay, i just want a name that has meaning to me. Facilitation of roleplay is important in these sorts of games. If not we would not even have backstorys or quests, it would just be a merchant and a bunch of mobs to farm.

Matsumi

Matsumi

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

This is something that has helped me out in some situations of creating a name. I see what you're saying with multi-word names, and can see how that would be some what restrictive for what you want to do.

http://www.seventhsanctum.com/index-name.php

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Deimos Tel Arin [CCTV]

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Most of the names of Americans, British, Canadians, Aussies, Europeans etc consists of two names,

First Name + Last Name

Sidrakket

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuoba Hturt Eht
Most of the names of Americans, British, Canadians, Aussies, Europeans etc consists of two names,

First Name + Last Name
Aye, already been covered however, that while my characters sometimes have quite elaborate names, the 'proper' crpg thing to do is have only the first, common name, floating over their head.

Also, seventh sanctum, yeah. I use that a whole lot. I see lots of nifty names, but none that seem like names id use -_-

betrunkenaffe

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

Darwinian Monkeys

W/Mo

My initial character names from games come from Final Fantasy (and I have a tendancy to stick to these)

Hard -- Fighter Char
Whit -- White Mage
Blac -- Black Mage
John -- Last of 4 (my name)

If you want to delve further into the depths of my un-imaginativeness, you can request OTHER names that I use

When I went to create a character I was like "WTF, oh I need 2 names.. AWESOME, it's about time!"

While I suck at making names and have to REALLY work at it to get a name I like, I still personally want to pat on the backs the person who put this forward and Anet for implementing it.

UndeadRoadkill

UndeadRoadkill

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matsumi
This is something that has helped me out in some situations of creating a name. I see what you're saying with multi-word names, and can see how that would be some what restrictive for what you want to do.

http://www.seventhsanctum.com/index-name.php
Hrh, that is really cool! I have my own naming conventions that I usually stick to (came uo with a new one for Cantha), but I'm tempted to use that in the future.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skanks
I always give my characters the same last name, makes them family
I wish I had thought to do that. Instead, I have Damia Arcana - elementalist, Maya Argenault - mesmer, Laria Raven - necro, Maya Calandra - monk and Lyssa Argenault - ritualist. Soon to be laid to rest - Saint Jude Thaddeus, who lost his battle against the hopeless cause of being less cute than the new Canthan female monk models. Poor guy didn't stand a chance.

SAQ

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Melbourne/Taipei

Radicals Against Tyrants

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The OP deserves to be flamed.. maybe this topic might be an issue if this game was in ALPHA phase.. but it's now 1 year old, most people got over it, and I guess you could too.

I like my RPG chars with a surname, it's distinctive, even if they are called "John Smith" at least it's distinctively HIM not just another "John".

You can be like other people who runs around with "| John |", "X John X", I guess whenever I see one of those people.. I will think that they might be you. Those names are disgraceful.. even if it's "J O H N".

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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I have to agree that I would like one name options for some of my characters...being a long time D and D fan, not all characters deserve two names...maybe I want the generic stupid half orc warrior/barbarian with the name bob...more variety is always a good thing...

Give me one good reason why GW 'needs' two word names.


And why does the OP desere all this bs? He has a valid complaint even if it's old...grow up people....

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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ah, you can just feel the love going on in this thread.

Really now the two name system is fine, its promotes creative thinking and name creation.

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

Can you think of anyone who doesn't have a last name?

SAQ

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Melbourne/Taipei

Radicals Against Tyrants

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Manic Smile
And why does the OP desere all this bs? He has a valid complaint even if it's old...grow up people....
Lets see.. this topic is at par with:
Why can't I run EVERYWHERE?? Why are there obstacles blocking my path. I want FREEDOMMMM!! Let me jump of the cliff!!

mmkaythx

Nightwish

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

When I first saw the rule, I'm quite happy thinking that there will no longer be any XdestructorX or lOWNu but apparently I was mistaken :P