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Bwsk8

Bwsk8

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/E

I just realized it would be possible to sell account trial key to an unxepecting buyer and tell them it was a full account and don't try this because you could be banned.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bwsk8
I just realized it would be possible to sell account trial key to an unxepecting buyer and tell them it was a full account and don't try this because you could be banned.
Thus the reason you shouldn't buy things like this off people ever.

Kaguya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Moon

Mo/

They could just sell a random series of letters and numbers anyways?

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaguya
They could just sell a random series of letters and numbers anyways?
heh... well that is always a point

Canadian Bacon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Ontario, Canada

Kingdom of Tyria [KoT]

Lol, you might end up selling someone a valid key!

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

Any keys sold for gold or for real cash is illegal keys or accounts. Why buy if you know it's illegal?

Pompeyfan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Isle of Wight

DVDF

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by fiery
Any keys sold for gold or for real cash is illegal keys or accounts. Why buy if you know it's illegal?
It's not illegal, it's against the EULA - there's a difference, for it to be illegal it'd have to be a criminal offence which it isn't, it's a breach of contract at best although not being able to sell something on would surely be classed as an unfair contract term if challanged in a UK court - more so as nothing is signed, and acceptance is only implied.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

Well, that's really suspect, Bwsk8... did you really realise this? or did it happen to you? or did you try this??

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

Well im not in the UK, and against the EULA which A.net stands by, if it's AGAINST the EULA it's not suitable for gamers who play the game.

soySauceNR1ce

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Tampa, Fl

(pRYD) Pride Fighterz

Mo/R

yea i remeber sum guy went and tryed this on me... he was selling it for 30k... i knew sumthing was wrong since it was so cheap.... anyways i found out by as soon he told me the acc i told my friend to change the email and pass but when he tryed to it sent him to a place called plaync since the acc name was [email protected] so yea guessing it was a trial acc or sumthing

MasterDinadan

MasterDinadan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

The Zaishen Force

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by soySauceNR1ce
yea i remeber sum guy went and tryed this on me... he was selling it for 30k... i knew sumthing was wrong since it was so cheap.... anyways i found out by as soon he told me the acc i told my friend to change the email and pass but when he tryed to it sent him to a place called plaync since the acc name was [email protected] so yea guessing it was a trial acc or sumthing
Plaync accoutns are perfectly valid.
My account ends in @plaync and it works just fine. :P

I'm not saying you should have gone through with it... but PlayNC does distribute legitimate Guild Wars accounts through their website. Just a little FYI

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bwsk8
I just realized it would be possible to sell account trial key to an unxepecting buyer and tell them it was a full account and don't try this because you could be banned.
ya the 14 day trial (10 hours right?) and other free stuff can be linked back to you -) they sould be given out freely to new people and for them to try out the game.

and yes this is not illegal it's a breach of contract and Anet can ban you for not following the ROC (below)

-------boring stuff u can skip ----- As of april 2005----------------

Guild Wars User Agreement ( http://www.plaync.com/us/help/eula_gw.html )

14. TERMINATION
a) NC Interactive reserves the right to suspend or terminate this Agreement immediately and without notice if you breach this Agreement.....

1. TERMS OF AGREEMENT

......"You agree to check this Agreement and the Rules of Conduct periodically so you will be familiar with their content as amended or modified from time to time. If you do not agree to the revised terms and conditions, you should contact NC Interactive immediately to discuss closure of your Account ...... ( so i do get back my 60 dollars?)


Guild Wars Rules of Conduct ( http://www.plaync.com/us/help/roc_gw.html )

10 You may not advertise the intent to or commit the act of buying, selling, trading, sharing, or transferring access to any Guild Wars account.

11 You may not advertise the intent to or commit the act of buying or selling items for cash or trading items from one server to another.

18 ... heheehhe (so the book trick was or wasn't an exploit?)

Bwsk8

Bwsk8

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terra Xin
Well, that's really suspect, Bwsk8... did you really realise this? or did it happen to you? or did you try this??
Someone tried to sell me an account and he gave me his name and password first and told me he would approve my email change. I tried to change email and it was rejected. I started to think of why and I assumed it was a trial key, I could dobule check the account though to be sure.

Pompeyfan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Isle of Wight

DVDF

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Quote:
Originally Posted by chessyang

11 You may not advertise the intent to or commit the act of buying or selling items for cash or trading items from one server to another.
Hmmm so how does that affect the classifieds and GW Auction site then? As surely under that trading from the EU server to the US by meeting in International is a no-no under the EULA.

And to clarify my point earlier - under UK law it is immaterial what a company puts in their T&C's, EULA's, Guarantee's, Warrantee's etc as nothing can infringe or supercede UK law, consumer law or your statutory rights as defined by the Sales of Goods Act etc (well actually there is one thing that can supercede UK consumer law and thats EU consumer law which normally grants the end user even more rights).

Argen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Shadow Nation [SN]

Unluckily, if you will read the EULA they do cover something that is a bit scary... they force their customers to agree to abide by the terms, precedents, and legal codes of the United States, and especially the State of Texas, all it takes is for an EU customer to get uppity try to take things to court, and since ANet or NCsoft has no UK equivalency and no real assets in the UK or EU, than they just terminate your account, with no real legal repercussions. ANet or NCsoft would have to agree to appear in English or UK courts first, and if not, than it becomes a matter of international law and if you really want to go for it... you'll get to plead any case in about... 10 years.

BellyFlop

BellyFlop

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Why buy if you know it's illegal?
Uh lets think here....

cos its illegal people like to do illegal things i guess. Pot hmmmmmm!!!

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaguya
They could just sell a random series of letters and numbers anyways?
Lol, I knew the account key H4XR-L337-UG0T-SC4M was a bit suspicious...

Bwsk8

Bwsk8

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/E

Well I double chacked and it said prophecies and nothing about a trial but the email address still would not change.

PtiteDiablesse

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

R/Mo

Frankly, if someone get scammed by trying to buy an account in-game, I have little sympathy because it *is* strictly against the EULA. I'm of the opinion that parties caught buying and selling accounts (or trying to) in-game should simply be banned. Both the buyer and the seller. That way, you get rid of both the supply and the demand for such things, and a big enough penalty that it will dissuade others from doing the same.

If you do get scammed buying and selling accounts? Tough noogies, you didn't abide by the agreement you signed, and anything that comes your way is of your making.

ThunderStruck

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

The Arctic Marauders [TAM]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diabloâ„¢
Lol, I knew the account key H4XR-L337-UG0T-SC4M was a bit suspicious...
LOL nice joke!

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pompeyfan
Hmmm so how does that affect the classifieds and GW Auction site then? As surely under that trading from the EU server to the US by meeting in International is a no-no under the EULA.
i think they mean real money but u can auction up for an item as long as you pay in GW gold, gold,shards, mini pets, hide squares, dyes.....

that's how i see it

shmek

shmek

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pompeyfan
It's not illegal, it's against the EULA - there's a difference, for it to be illegal it'd have to be a criminal offence which it isn't, it's a breach of contract at best although not being able to sell something on would surely be classed as an unfair contract term if challanged in a UK court - more so as nothing is signed, and acceptance is only implied.
Hrr??? So you are trying to say, breaking a law is not considered illegal?

Is not breach of contract in which you can be in a LAWsuit kinda showing that some law was broken, hence illegal, hence against the law, hence you get into a lawsuit?

I'm not a lawyer, but you must be in order to put out such technical mumbojumbo which is mere semantics and euphamisms for breaking a law and calling it not lawbreaking.

Cador

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Relax Its Just A [GAME]

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by fiery
Well im not in the UK, and against the EULA which A.net stands by, if it's AGAINST the EULA it's not suitable for gamers who play the game.
I am in NY trust me what the UKer said is true. The most action they can take against you is civil, so they would take you to court and try to recover damages which still DOES NOT make it illegal

Cador

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Relax Its Just A [GAME]

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by shmek
Hrr??? So you are trying to say, breaking a law is not considered illegal?

Is not breach of contract in which you can be in a LAWsuit kinda showing that some law was broken, hence illegal, hence against the law, hence you get into a lawsuit?

I'm not a lawyer, but you must be in order to put out such technical mumbojumbo which is mere semantics and euphamisms for breaking a law and calling it not lawbreaking.
Technically breach of contract is and is not illegal. For 1 you cannot be brought up on criminal charges therefore NOT illegal. You can be brought up on civil charges. It is the equivalent if i were to be bitten by a dog. The only thing i can do is go to court and recover damages. Is it illegal for the dog to bite me? No.