Bring back the BLOOD~

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

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So ya.... Anet please let us have an option for blood splatter like in the original old old beta thing o.o

edit:
Bolded out OPTION, so it can be removed if you lag or dislike it :P

Chillin-N-Killin

Chillin-N-Killin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Colorado

The Adult Guild

R/Mo

/signed

I would like an opoin to check and show blood splatter if you wanted, alot of other games have this.

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

Might cause an M rating if they do that. That would very much hurt sales.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by kvndoom
Might cause an M rating if they do that. That would very much hurt sales.
Guild Wars changes to NC-17, just go sit in Random Arena dis 1.

I dont see how optional blood (while no wounds, decapitations, etc) can be THAT bad.

Kaguya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Moon

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They could always implement a parental lock for the blood splatters

Bump for effects!


VVV-- how will an effect that is diplayed when someone gets hit add to lag, you don't have to send the blood splatters over the network, the hits are already transmitted anyways. And if it can be disabled, it won't add to graphics engine workload. "unneeded" is not a valid argument either

Song Rui

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

We are all pretty [ugly]

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No! blood will cause lag. it's also uneeded. kthx

/anti-signed.

xiaotsu

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Just Us Gamers [JUGs]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Song Rui
No! blood will cause lag. it's also uneeded. kthx

/anti-signed.
Which is why it would be an option, if it causes lag, disable it, it would be that simple.

I'd never use it, and I don't think I know anyone that actually would, but wth,

/signed

TheLordOfBlah

TheLordOfBlah

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

None

Mo/N

/signed. There are T games with blood.

option to disable is good too. I like it.

Ghull Ka

Ghull Ka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle, WA

Grenths Helpdesk

N/

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Especially when I cast Blood is Power, I want to see some spatter!

{IceFire}

{IceFire}

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

/notsigned. unneeded IMO, and M rating=bad + lag.

sinisters chaos

sinisters chaos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

ATLANTA

No Clue [emt]

W/R

/signed..... idk why ppl are complaining about lag... if GW really wanted to add blood they can EASILY make it w/o lag... BUT i do agree the rating will have to change... and thats a nono, so i dont think this will happen,

led-zep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

maybe an age rating would be good, there'd be less idiotic kids playng screaming noob at everyone.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by kvndoom
Might cause an M rating if they do that. That would very much hurt sales.
This is a myth. M ratings don't hurt sales. Many of the best-selling games of all-time are M-rated. ie: Diablo, Diablo II, Diablo II Lord of Destruction, GTA 3, Vice City, San Andreas (that sales got hurt by an AO rating, but not an M rating ), Dawn of War, God of War, Halo 1, Halo 2 etc. etc..

M ratings are fine and dandy and don't affect sales.

Bring back the blood.

/signed

guppy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/Me

No!! many newer MMO's don't have it.. its not a bloody game, and it doesn't need to be.. (unnecessary feature)

I really don't want to see this game go down the line of Diablo, really sorry, but I just can't see that kind of gore in a game like this

Fargin Scotchsman

Fargin Scotchsman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Noobs Of Steel

i agree wit led-zep, m-rating may get rid of all teh younger idiots, which is a BIG thing imo. less idiots = less lag overall = more fun = happy ppl. anyways, ppl like m=rated BECAUSE they're m=rated, or at least i do. ive played lots o fps's, and the whole blood thing makes the experience more realistic, and isnt that wut an rpg's supposed to be? more realistic???

/signed, twice

Rion

Rion

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Blashyrkh

I'd like to see the blood brought back, but I doubt it'll happen.

R A C

R A C

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

In my parent's basement

R/Mo

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M-rating would hurt anything. M probably wouldn't happen anyway though, IMO. And M ratings don't stop brats from getting their parents to buy GTA and other M games for 'em. Sad but true. Moron parents who don't pay attention to what their kids play. But that's another rant for another thread.

BahamutKaiser

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Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Heightened state of mind.

P/W

Doesn't matter to me, How about Quivers, new cape type designs, new armors, playable races, I don't know, anything else could be a better addition, but blood, ok, that doesn't impress me but why not add it.

I think turning to the gore factor to be enjoyable to people who enjoy violence is a weak addition, there are plenty of exciting and enjoyable things that would be much more appreciated by many, instead of making an addition that will spawn just as many dislikes as likes, as well as mark the game as another blood and guts game.

As long as it can be turned off, I don't care, Graphics are never going to slow down my gameplay as much as the connectivity, so I don't care about the lag, but I find this a very weak addition to add to the game in light of a multitude of better options. I would rather see cool mist running off of enemies who have Ice hexes on them, and small flames when your burning, and the player holds his arm between actions if he has deep wound, blood splatters are a far last place for visual additions IMO. Furthermore, you can already identify an enemy with bleeding by the pink degen bar, so it isn't providing an identification that we don't have, unlike Deep wound or Ice Hex slowing, or even weakness.

Rancour

Rancour

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Camp Rancor (Rancour :D)

I'm a free spirit (that's not what the guild is called, I just am)

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I wouldn't mind blood, atleast it'd look better than it does now.

It can't wrap my mind around the fact that I cause an explosion when I gut someone...

Lag: Turn it off
Disgust: Turn it off
M-rating: This is ridiculous, as if kids ever stopped playing games because they saw blood; blood is APPEALING to blokes (majority of player base).

To the above poster: Uhm, there ARE flames when you burn.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fargin Scotchsman
i agree wit led-zep, m-rating may get rid of all teh younger idiots, which is a BIG thing imo. less idiots = less lag overall = more fun = happy ppl.
Haha at you for thinking that a rating will stop younger people from playing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kvdoom
Might cause an M rating if they do that. That would very much hurt sales.
Lots of T games have blood in them, I doubt it would change to M.


Anyways, I think this is a good idea, more realistic.

/signed

Omega X

Omega X

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

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Blood won't make the game play any different.

Not to mention that the ESRB is already on a rampage about ratings as it is.

EternalTempest

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United States

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But the amount of realistic blood pool may be enough to get pushed to "M".

derrtyboy69

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The Clouds

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I dont see any reason at all not to have it optional. Now i dont want huge amounts of blood everywhere, but just a small amount to make it more realistic.

Tarun

Tarun

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I definitely want to see blood, especially when they have bleeding. Not just some stupid little red cloud with probably causes more lag than red ont he ground.

Fargin Scotchsman

Fargin Scotchsman

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Noobs Of Steel

hmmm, one of the only games that has an m-rating that i can think of right now is ninja gaiden (kickass game yo). sure, u hack things to bits, but the amt of blood is sweet imo. ots incredibly realistic, cuz when u hit sumthin it bleeds, when sumthin hits u, u bleed. i like realism, annd imo, thas wut rpgs nowadays seem to be all about. optional is a good idea tho, that may be the thing that keeps the rationg down.

DaerunAxis

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Join Date: Mar 2006

USA - FL

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only if it shows when my necro sacs health too!

Blessed Winds

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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Some parents are careless enough to buy video games for their kids that include strippers and 1000 gallons of blood per enemy. Take GTA Vice City for example.
/signed.

Naqser

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

N/A

Northern Borderguard

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I don't see why ppl DON'T see the OPTION part... "blood causes lag" surely it does, but it's optional.

another thing too, since when did ratings stop kids in the age of 12 to buy and/or play a game rated M? Generaly if the salesman /woman doesn't sell it to a kid, then the kid just goes to a friend that can buy the game or the parents.

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Jo0Lz

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Would be a cool option!

Sax Dakota

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Doing so may change the rating of the game.

Undivine

Undivine

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Ontario, Canada

A couple things to consider here. First of all, there is Germany. Germany is absolutely hardcore against violence in video games. Since this is an international game, they will want to appeal to that.

Of course, they could just make the German version not even have the option, as so many other games do.

But secondly there is the issue with Jack Thompson. If you don't know who he is, he's a lawyer in the US who is really anti-video game. And the thing is, he's sort of making headway. Some politicians (like Hilary Clinton) are set on making the ratings more enforced. I'm not sure I neccessarily disagree with them, but we really need to see what's going to happen with that first. The very definitions of the ratings may actually change in the future in the states (which I wouldn't agree with, but then, I'm not in the states). In summery, ratings are a hot issue right now and ANet may want to stay on the side of caution.

Thirdly, making a change like this means they would have to have the ESRB re-rate the game. Actually, I kind of wonder if they can make this change. Can they do something that changes the rating to a game that has already been sold to people? A parent buys it for their child with one rating, and then a patch makes a change that raises the rating after the fact. I don't know if they can do that.

Having said all that, I don't think a little bit of blood neccessarily changes the rating. It's almost moot anyway since this game is online and they need the qualifier "gaming experience may change online."

A little blood wouldn't hurt, but it's not neccessary. And given the potential complications, I doubt they would put it in. If I believed it was as easy as just putting it in, I would sign this.

Tarun

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Undivine
A couple things to consider here. First of all, there is Germany. Germany is absolutely hardcore against violence in video games. Since this is an international game, they will want to appeal to that.

Of course, they could just make the German version not even have the option, as so many other games do.

But secondly there is the issue with Jack Thompson. If you don't know who he is, he's a lawyer in the US who is really anti-video game. And the thing is, he's sort of making headway. Some politicians (like Hilary Clinton) are set on making the ratings more enforced. I'm not sure I neccessarily disagree with them, but we really need to see what's going to happen with that first. The very definitions of the ratings may actually change in the future in the states (which I wouldn't agree with, but then, I'm not in the states). In summery, ratings are a hot issue right now and ANet may want to stay on the side of caution.

Thirdly, making a change like this means they would have to have the ESRB re-rate the game. Actually, I kind of wonder if they can make this change. Can they do something that changes the rating to a game that has already been sold to people? A parent buys it for their child with one rating, and then a patch makes a change that raises the rating after the fact. I don't know if they can do that.

Having said all that, I don't think a little bit of blood neccessarily changes the rating. It's almost moot anyway since this game is online and they need the qualifier "gaming experience may change online."

A little blood wouldn't hurt, but it's not neccessary. And given the potential complications, I doubt they would put it in. If I believed it was as easy as just putting it in, I would sign this.
Did you completely overlook the fact that she bolded the word OPTION; seems so. It'll add variety to the game and if people want to cry about it, just disable it and slap on a parental password. gg :P

Replicant

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Join Date: Jan 2006

R/Me

/SIGNED! screw the ratings, governements, and parents! I want blood! lol.

would make the game more realistic... imho.

Dougal Kronik

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With the option to toggle on/off, and maybe parental locks.

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Tarun

Tarun

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Anyone else want to see some of the nice blood graphics from the beta days added back to being a part of mainstream GW?

Lepton CFd

Lepton CFd

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Mo/Me

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Blood FTW!

Zhou Feng

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

CATS

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/signed I too want to see the blood. I cant see and fail to see how this argument about "kids not playing it" Kids still get their hands on GTA every day and thats a hell lot worse then this game will ever be with blood.

floppinghog

floppinghog

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did anyone ever fall and cut their hand or knee? yeah we all bleed thanks. why does it have to be a secret..

Syris

Syris

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Oregon

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Who cares if they change the rating? It might weed out some 5 year olds from idling all day and dancing constantly while doing nothing for the game.

Undivine

Undivine

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Ontario, Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarun
Did you completely overlook the fact that she bolded the word OPTION; seems so.
No I did not. GTA got an adults only rating for the hot coffee scandal. That was not even put in as an option. It was beyond optional. It was locked out.

Though I don't think putting in blood would neccessarily change the rating, it's just not a sensible thing to do for ArenaNet. You can scream "screw the governement!" all you like, but that doesn't change the facts. Putting in blood could be headache for them and in the end it's inconsequential to the game anyway.