This goes out to you anet devs out there.
I HOPE you have seen the big farming exploit down in elona recently, my suggestion to you is this....
BAN THE BOT FARMERS....
I mean you can literally watch and see which ones are which!
If you just nerf the area of farming then you are doing no good and just hurting everybody else.
I for one farm there, its actually HALFWAY decent money, nothing big, maybe 1k out of every 3-4 runs, 2 if i'm lucky.
I just farm for the money, not items to sell, besides the golds i gotten there i tried to sell so i gave up on trying.
The bots actually don't hurt me at all, its just that I know something EVENTUALLY be done about this... eventually...
I just don't want it to be that the whole elona mission is nerfed of minos, I mean that would just hurt everyone else and the farming bots will just go somewhere else.
Solution = hurt the bots, not the area.
elona.. ban bots, not nerf the area
Fox Reeveheart
{IceFire}
/signed for the entire game not just elona.
Lepton CFd
/signed
Bots suck -_-
Bots suck -_-
Malice Black
/signed
making 1k in 3 runs is kinda poor, make a wammo and do chest running i made 300k in 3 days from chests that kinda beats your 1k
making 1k in 3 runs is kinda poor, make a wammo and do chest running i made 300k in 3 days from chests that kinda beats your 1k
D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E
Malice, how many hours per day did you need to have favor? elona is better than UW/FoW at the moment, I avg 500~600g a run, thats within 45seconds...
and that 300K is worth what now that factions is out? people want new skins, its a hard time to sell anything at the moment.
if you want to "chest farm" try the elite missions in factions, they don't require favor, but they require you own the place.
they look like bots to me /signed
euro
int
and us severs
and that 300K is worth what now that factions is out? people want new skins, its a hard time to sell anything at the moment.
if you want to "chest farm" try the elite missions in factions, they don't require favor, but they require you own the place.
they look like bots to me /signed
euro
int
and us severs
sinisters chaos
/signed, i hate bots for they ruin farming BUT, do you guys realize that by banning bots about 75% of chinese players would not be able to play GW and that would not be good for GW business, i dont think a mass ban is in their minds atm
Omnidragon42
Honestly, all bots just need to be account deleted. Anet checks the logs for exact repetitive actions, and ban/delete those accounts.
As for farming, chests in cantha have been good to me lately
As for farming, chests in cantha have been good to me lately
Aki Soyokaze
/signed
Punish the bots not everyone else, nerfing an area just sends the bots to a new location.
Punish the bots not everyone else, nerfing an area just sends the bots to a new location.
Isileth
/signed
The thing is this does effect everyone. That flow of money is a lot. There must be over 50 going at anytime. Now that money goes somewhere. It may be ebay or it may be some form of ingame trade but whatever it is it upsets the ingame economy. These people get money for nothing so they can afford to spend stupid ammounts on weapons which drives the prices up fpr everyone else.
The thing is this does effect everyone. That flow of money is a lot. There must be over 50 going at anytime. Now that money goes somewhere. It may be ebay or it may be some form of ingame trade but whatever it is it upsets the ingame economy. These people get money for nothing so they can afford to spend stupid ammounts on weapons which drives the prices up fpr everyone else.
fb2000
it also makes people that play normally and get some nice weapon to get rich doesnt it
but ya, >>> bots should go <<<
but ya, >>> bots should go <<<
Fargin Scotchsman
/signed,
bots suck, end of story.
bots suck, end of story.
KESKI
/sign
Mr D J
/signed
30k ok? u buy?
30k ok? u buy?
Tien ak
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/signed, i hate bots for they ruin farming BUT, do you guys realize that by banning bots about 75% of chinese players would not be able to play GW and that would not be good for GW business,
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Also Fox Reeveheart if you could mention how you can Id a Bot that would be geat (no sarcastic remark ment btw)
but yeah /signed
Though I do kinda think they won't be able to stop em unless they find out who it is a sue em.
kvndoom
Tien, if you want to see bots in action, just go to Elona reach. After 2 or 3 minutes, you will have no doubt that those aren't human players.
What's got me miffed is the BALLS these guys have now. I mean they're not even trying to keep in secret in Internation districts anymore. Even the American districts are now full of them. I see that as a spit in the face, personally. No shame, no fear. Have they won?
What's got me miffed is the BALLS these guys have now. I mean they're not even trying to keep in secret in Internation districts anymore. Even the American districts are now full of them. I see that as a spit in the face, personally. No shame, no fear. Have they won?
fb2000
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Tien, if you want to see bots in action, just go to Elona reach. After 2 or 3 minutes, you will have no doubt that those aren't human players.
What's got me miffed is the BALLS these guys have now. I mean they're not even trying to keep in secret in Internation districts anymore. Even the American districts are now full of them. I see that as a spit in the face, personally. No shame, no fear. Have they won? |
noone of Anet seems to give a damn about it.. its even worse than it was in Diablo2 (yes, i do admit i had one running, but if you had played back then, youd know what fun it is to trade for expensive runes and then have them disappear from ur inv...). at least blizzard did their best and banned lots of people, not only for botting, but for maphacking too.anet dont bother
Neriandal Freit
Replicant
/signed
Ban the Botters not the Area, Theres nothing wrong with farming, but to screw everyone else because of it is just wrong.
Ban the Botters not the Area, Theres nothing wrong with farming, but to screw everyone else because of it is just wrong.
mycatstella
/signed for both my accounts. =/
J snukka
/signed
KazeMitsui
/signed
those bots are ruining the economy of gw raising prices of stuff and getting our areas nerffed come on.. but its also pretty funny to see them. they go along the wall stop for like 10 seconds then turn to the merchant and yea they off woot for bots psyche.... bots can suck it and the people that own the bots can gag on it botters suck bots suck they ruin stuff anet do something come on por favor
those bots are ruining the economy of gw raising prices of stuff and getting our areas nerffed come on.. but its also pretty funny to see them. they go along the wall stop for like 10 seconds then turn to the merchant and yea they off woot for bots psyche.... bots can suck it and the people that own the bots can gag on it botters suck bots suck they ruin stuff anet do something come on por favor
Albas
This is a serious problem.
Heres a screenshot of what I just saw in American D1... pretty stupid if you ask me
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i don't think the Mo/R is a bot because of the different placement and everything but all the others... pretty obvious, they are all in a huge line.
oh, and another thing... there are currently 4 districts at elona reach, and only about 10-15 real people in all of them.
Heres a screenshot of what I just saw in American D1... pretty stupid if you ask me
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i don't think the Mo/R is a bot because of the different placement and everything but all the others... pretty obvious, they are all in a huge line.
oh, and another thing... there are currently 4 districts at elona reach, and only about 10-15 real people in all of them.
Hockster
Lots of these accounts do gat banned, but the companies make so much money from ebay and the like that they have literally hundreds of accounts just waiting to replace the banned ones.
Everyone says the bots are the problem. Not true. The real problem is the thousands of lazy assed players that buy the gold. If they didn't buy the bots would be gone.
Everyone says the bots are the problem. Not true. The real problem is the thousands of lazy assed players that buy the gold. If they didn't buy the bots would be gone.
Neriandal Freit
True Hock, very true.
And that image above is true. That is how my images *should* look but I do not know why they ended up being the size of an avatar.
And that image above is true. That is how my images *should* look but I do not know why they ended up being the size of an avatar.
TimberOwl
/Signed.
I Sell, You Buy! You Buy!!! 1234, 400K, 600K, 800K, 1000K
Ya i mean if you think about how much money these bots can make.
45sec run = roughly 600g,
So Averaging 60 runs in an hour, give or take issues like lag and such.
Thats 36000g
Say they leave it on overnight while they sleep,
36000g x 7-8 hours sleep per person on average = 288000g
Hmm, and what happens if they leave it on for 48 hours non-stop.
A whopping, 1728000 ready for the ebay pot.
I Sell, You Buy! You Buy!!! 1234, 400K, 600K, 800K, 1000K
Ya i mean if you think about how much money these bots can make.
45sec run = roughly 600g,
So Averaging 60 runs in an hour, give or take issues like lag and such.
Thats 36000g
Say they leave it on overnight while they sleep,
36000g x 7-8 hours sleep per person on average = 288000g
Hmm, and what happens if they leave it on for 48 hours non-stop.
A whopping, 1728000 ready for the ebay pot.
xanty
there is a real problem with bots in Elona Reach, today I could only find 6 real player in 4 districts of bots. baning the bot is one solution, but a better solotion is to fix the problem. the way the zone in points face it allows the bots to run with a simple progam (run foward, straf right, run foward , target nearest ally) to get to the merchant and sell. the solution is to move the merchant, behind storage or up by the henchies would brake the bot program.
quickmonty
Problem is, everytime people complaing about bots in an area Anet nerfs the area and the bots move on. Maybe they don't want to eliminate the bots?
Symeon
/signed.
Ban/delete the bot accounts.
Surely ANet know about this issue by now, I can't think of what would be holding them back. I can understand why they nerfed the area of Augury Rock, as it was not just bots that farmed there. But this time, it seems almost all of them are bots.
Just go to Elona Reach Int District 1, or American District 1 (can't go there as I'm European but I know a lot of bots have moved over there).
Take a look at the bot paths. When they spawn, most of them do not go directly to the merchant. They walk along the side of the rocks, stop, then run over to the merchant. Different groups stop at different points. These different groups probably belong to different bot programmers.
I can't understand why some of them are at storage, nor why some of them are standing at the gate. These might be non-bots. But the rest have clear paths and all pile up in a big long list by the merchant.
Ban/delete the bot accounts.
Surely ANet know about this issue by now, I can't think of what would be holding them back. I can understand why they nerfed the area of Augury Rock, as it was not just bots that farmed there. But this time, it seems almost all of them are bots.
Just go to Elona Reach Int District 1, or American District 1 (can't go there as I'm European but I know a lot of bots have moved over there).
Take a look at the bot paths. When they spawn, most of them do not go directly to the merchant. They walk along the side of the rocks, stop, then run over to the merchant. Different groups stop at different points. These different groups probably belong to different bot programmers.
I can't understand why some of them are at storage, nor why some of them are standing at the gate. These might be non-bots. But the rest have clear paths and all pile up in a big long list by the merchant.
Raiin Maker
/signed
chessyang
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30k ok? u buy?
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Stockholm
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Maybe they don't want to eliminate the bots?
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BrotherGilburt
/signed
Ban all people useing Bots. All they do it cause trouble. They spam and over farm. Thats enough for me.
Brother Gilburt
Ban all people useing Bots. All they do it cause trouble. They spam and over farm. Thats enough for me.
Brother Gilburt
sinisters chaos
i signed this thread earlier, but, now i do not sign
bots find alot of the rarer items taht we cant, also like hock said, tehy ban some and there arent hundreds, but thousands of accounts just waiting to be used by these mass chinese sweat shop companies...
also, if they evr banned EVERY single account, and the companies stopped buying accounts... Anet would lose millions of dollars.., this is exactly why they are not going to elona and banning all the bots they see
bots find alot of the rarer items taht we cant, also like hock said, tehy ban some and there arent hundreds, but thousands of accounts just waiting to be used by these mass chinese sweat shop companies...
also, if they evr banned EVERY single account, and the companies stopped buying accounts... Anet would lose millions of dollars.., this is exactly why they are not going to elona and banning all the bots they see
Hockster
Anet does ban every botted account they catch. It's ludicrious to think otherwise. But, Anet has to virtually 100% sure it's a bot before they're banned. Just the number of posts in this forum alone about bannings, legitimate or not, suggests that Anet watches as much as they can given the small amount of staff they have.
Many of these accounts are also stolen from people believing they're downloading a cheat/hack/duper. While I believe these idiots deserve to lose their accounts, it's too bad that the accounts are used to further effect the economy, for the worse.
The bots do not find rarer items. Do you really believe that such an overfarmed area will yield much in the way of rare items? Most of these things are bought and sold to and from the same retards that are buying the gold on ebay. And that's amazingly hilarious. And pathetic at the same time.
Many of these accounts are also stolen from people believing they're downloading a cheat/hack/duper. While I believe these idiots deserve to lose their accounts, it's too bad that the accounts are used to further effect the economy, for the worse.
The bots do not find rarer items. Do you really believe that such an overfarmed area will yield much in the way of rare items? Most of these things are bought and sold to and from the same retards that are buying the gold on ebay. And that's amazingly hilarious. And pathetic at the same time.
Syris
Matsumi
lol Stop buying online gold people (who ever you are), and they will slowly fade away. Keep buying, and they will find more ways to keep providing, put an end to the source. If you don't think you have the time or the resources to get your own gold, just be patient. Once the prices start dropping on alot of things, rare weapons etc, the more affordable things will be to the average player. Because it's not much of an economy if nobody can afford anything off of an average income is it? If there's only a handful of rich people out there that can afford the prices, then people are going to be wasting hours at a time trying to sell anything, with hardly nobody buying.
Zhou Feng
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Tien, if you want to see bots in action, just go to Elona reach. After 2 or 3 minutes, you will have no doubt that those aren't human players.
What's got me miffed is the BALLS these guys have now. I mean they're not even trying to keep in secret in Internation districts anymore. Even the American districts are now full of them. I see that as a spit in the face, personally. No shame, no fear. Have they won? |
- make runes penalty non stackable. So wearing two of the same superior runes no longer reduce health by -75*2.
- in theory reduce the amount of penalty from superior runes and major runes perhaps this will also be efficient. Something like 40 major and 60 superior
- make maps where farming is heavy more dynamic. unpredictable spawning and unpredictable enemies
- make plenty of mesmer and necro profession enemies with an AI script to remove, shatter, interrupt, and otherwise do exactly what we would do in pvp to a 55 monk: interrupt key enchants poison, hex with degen, shatter enchants.
- yes I know this can quite possibly kill ALL 55 monks including human ones but humans have brains bots dont, humans can adapt to a situation bots wont be able too. Besides this would solve the monk 55 problem.
- accounts with repetitive farming get busted with a harsh "crap only no golds" effect for that area for a loooong time with no cooldown if person is not online or lower cooldown rate when person is not online (harder to implement, may affect a lot of people if they farm the same place too much)
However if Anet is making money out of these In game Gold sales to the people I doubt any of that will be implemented
Other then that there is no real solution. Nerfing the area would be stupid.
Matsumi
There isn't a "Monk 55 problem", there is a BOT problem. If there was a 55 problem, the -50 cesta wouldn't exist still, same with the -20 item. There's nothing wrong with tweaking your character so you can solo. Messing with the runes would do nothing, because there can be solo warrior bots. Stop buying online gold, problem solved.
Neriandal Freit
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Read before you post useless posts against people in forums.
Necrotic
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there is a real problem with bots in Elona Reach, today I could only find 6 real player in 4 districts of bots. baning the bot is one solution, but a better solotion is to fix the problem. the way the zone in points face it allows the bots to run with a simple progam (run foward, straf right, run foward , target nearest ally) to get to the merchant and sell. the solution is to move the merchant, behind storage or up by the henchies would brake the bot program.
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Sure...the better the bot the more time someone has to spend making it better...but the better the bot the harder it is to tell its a bot.
Ban bots....meh...I don't really really care because I don't view them as being the problem. The problem is that some armor/weapons and materials that are nearly essential to play competitively require more gold than you gain simply from doing missions, therefore you must farm....hence the gold farmers who sell to people who dont have time to farm but money to blow.