Two handed swords/axes? One handed blunt weapons?

K.Ichigo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

I haven't thought this through exactly, but it'd add some variety. Two handed swords/axes could have slightly buffed damage. One handed blunt weapons could have significantly less damage but a higher attack rate.

This idea has probably been set forth before, but what are the cons to it?

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

why do you say that this idea has probrably been set fourth, and still make a thread about it...

for a start, look at this thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=133809

its on par with what you're looking for, plus a little more.

Mandy Memory

Mandy Memory

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Terra Xin
why do you say that this idea has probrably been set fourth, and still make a thread about it...

for a start, look at this thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=133809

its on par with what you're looking for, plus a little more.
I somehow believe you quoted the wrong thread...even though it talks about new attributes dealing with the same thing.


In short, they wont work for balance issues.
(Search is down at the moment. And the google one isnt doing the topic justice. There are 1908932758943893247 threads on this...all filled with notsigned because of balance issues, and signed because some people hate balance and want to be better no matter what.)

Tobias Funke

Tobias Funke

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Following of Xanthar

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There is a one handed blunt weapon.

Dougal Kronik

Dougal Kronik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ontario, Canada

Glengarry Fencibles

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Why would it upset balance?

What is the one handed blunt weapon for a warrior?

Thom Bangalter

Thom Bangalter

Grindin'

Join Date: Dec 2005

MO

E/Mo

there's a new sword that does blunt damage. but you still use sword attacks with it. There's no weapon that allows you to do hammer attacks and weild a shield though, which is more on par with this thread and others

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

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I to would like to see this but it would be hard to implement in UI as if you look in your inventory.You might want to try useing it the way it is now to see how it works.

Mandy Memory

Mandy Memory

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik
Why would it upset balance?

What is the one handed blunt weapon for a warrior?
Its called a Jitte I think.

And it would upset balance because...for example.

A lot of hammer attacks cause knockdown. Using a hammer now can lead to keeping somone knocked down >80% of the time (in the combo). With the speed of a sword, that would be 100% of the time, and the combo could easily go on indefinantly once first charged. Good luck surviving that one. Also it would allow 1 warrior to completely disable (at least) 1 character...forever.

Dougal Kronik

Dougal Kronik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ontario, Canada

Glengarry Fencibles

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They could make a mace or morning star with the same attack speed as a two-handed hammer but only make it one handed and decrease the damage to something like 12-26. That way the trade off is use a shield, same speed of hammer attacks and lower power than a two-handed hammer.

richirich

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

destinys elite

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a 2 handed axe using a eviscarate-executioners combo....gg

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Wouldn't really work... not with all the skills anyway. Earth Shaker with a tiny mace? I don't think so.

Sounds too much like Diablo 2 (and probably 100s of others), i'd rather they give the Hammer a boost to its bonus'.

Swords/Axes, +30 health or +5/7 armour w/ +16 armour shield + 30/45/60 health and -2/3 damage.

Hammers, +30 health or +5/7 armour.

Really doesn't seem balanced imo, hammers hit for slightly more and lose out on about 20 armour benefit and plenty of health. They increased the Vampiric effect from 3 to 5 for hammers, so why not boost health or armour upgrades slightly?

daraaksii

daraaksii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by richirich
a 2 handed axe using a eviscarate-executioners combo....gg
its only one weapon, like a hammer.

daraaksii

daraaksii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
Wouldn't really work... not with all the skills anyway. Earth Shaker with a tiny mace? I don't think so.

Sounds too much like Diablo 2 (and probably 100s of others), i'd rather they give the Hammer a boost to its bonus'.

Swords/Axes, +30 health or +5/7 armour w/ +16 armour shield + 30/45/60 health and -2/3 damage.

Hammers, +30 health or +5/7 armour.

Really doesn't seem balanced imo, hammers hit for slightly more and lose out on about 20 armour benefit and plenty of health. They increased the Vampiric effect from 3 to 5 for hammers, so why not boost health or armour upgrades slightly?
/signed

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

i'd like too see something like this just because this game is becoming too balanced to plz the "causal" or "kiddie" gamers who only play weekends or whatever

this game needs some life to it or it will die

Mandy Memory

Mandy Memory

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik
They could make a mace or morning star with the same attack speed as a two-handed hammer but only make it one handed and decrease the damage to something like 12-26. That way the trade off is use a shield, same speed of hammer attacks and lower power than a two-handed hammer.
Most reasonable suggestion in the thread...and the only idea I would even think about. (I still say no, but this way it is doable...and he didnt say "OMGXORZ 2HANDED AXES LIKE WOW")

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

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Seriously wheres the 2 handed swords/dual weild in this game....frustrating...balance always in the way of fun...so sad..and next thing you know someone will tell you go play WoW/L2.