I agree with most of the posters here, don't waste your $50 on this game..especially since you're a poor high school kid. Anyone who says Factions has the same amount or more content than GW:P is full of BS.
After beat Factions with 2 characters, I can tell you this. Imagine playing GW:P and only having access to Presearing, Ascalon, Shiverpeaks, and Kryta. Well..that's basically the same amount of content you'll get playing GW:F.
Is Factions worth it?
V-Dragon
Guardian of the Light
I love factions and its skills its a great game its worth it. Don't insult GW:F in front of me *cracks knuckles*.
Rykiel
Factions for me, was an ok buy, and I bought the CE. Cantha is a sight to behold and you can tell ALOT of effort went into the scenery and creating the feel of the game.
The storyline does progress alot faster than Prophecies if you do only the missions, but I'm the sort of person that insists on doing every quest in each area until I'm satisifed enough to move on to the next area. In this light, I'd say that the content in Factions IS nearly as great as Prophecies if you take into account the massive amount of quests available. You do all the quests in the town thinking you're done, but when exploring the area, you find alot more quests in npc's scattered across the land.
The two new classes play very differently from the core professions and I'm really loving the diversity in the Ritualist class.
Basically if you liked GW:P, and you're looking for more of the same (more skills, more areas and scenery to explore, new classes, new armours) then you should be happy with GW:F. If you're looking for a radical new change then I recommend buying another game.
The storyline does progress alot faster than Prophecies if you do only the missions, but I'm the sort of person that insists on doing every quest in each area until I'm satisifed enough to move on to the next area. In this light, I'd say that the content in Factions IS nearly as great as Prophecies if you take into account the massive amount of quests available. You do all the quests in the town thinking you're done, but when exploring the area, you find alot more quests in npc's scattered across the land.
The two new classes play very differently from the core professions and I'm really loving the diversity in the Ritualist class.
Basically if you liked GW:P, and you're looking for more of the same (more skills, more areas and scenery to explore, new classes, new armours) then you should be happy with GW:F. If you're looking for a radical new change then I recommend buying another game.
-Byron-
It depends what you prioritize. If you are an active pvper, I would say its debatable, its more worth a 30-40$ buy. If you want a lot of pve content, wait until it goes in your bargain bin an EB games.
The pros:
Scenery is gorgeous, its far better than Prophecies.
The missions are more challenged and better designed.
It might seem nominal but even based on the title screen, the music is quite impressive.
Lots of pvp content, alliance battles, etc, Gamespot said it well. It caters well to the hardcore.
The cons:
It only has half the missions of Prophecies which undoubtedly accounts for many ill felt feelings on this forum.
Its puts a new meaning into the word linear.
The pros:
Scenery is gorgeous, its far better than Prophecies.
The missions are more challenged and better designed.
It might seem nominal but even based on the title screen, the music is quite impressive.
Lots of pvp content, alliance battles, etc, Gamespot said it well. It caters well to the hardcore.
The cons:
It only has half the missions of Prophecies which undoubtedly accounts for many ill felt feelings on this forum.
Its puts a new meaning into the word linear.
nimloth32
not to mention some of the mission are buggy..-_o..if you are going to buy GW:F..get it in later days..just not now..=D..when the game are more stabilize..
btw, ignore the whiners here..some are just whine because their favourite builds have been nerfed, etc, etc..
btw, ignore the whiners here..some are just whine because their favourite builds have been nerfed, etc, etc..
Familliar Realm
Factions totally sucked IMO, I never really got into it unlike I did with Prophecies.
Chris1986
Worth every penny, so far.
I really like the replayability with Alliance Battles rather than just getting done with the game and sweat farming for FoW armor ala Prophecies.
I could really go on and on but I think Factions is a 100% improvement over Prophecies
I really like the replayability with Alliance Battles rather than just getting done with the game and sweat farming for FoW armor ala Prophecies.
I could really go on and on but I think Factions is a 100% improvement over Prophecies
Matsumi
This kind of helps me out too. I'm kind of hesitant to buy factions, even though I really want to play a ritualist and an assassin. I keep asking myself though, is it worth 50 dollars just to be able to play 2 new classes? Because from the sounds of alot of people, the missions and quests aren't much, and kind of power level you. I don't like to be power leveled, or rushed through stuff, so I'm wondering if I'll even like that. Would be nice if I could pay an expansion price just to be able to play the 2 new professions in Tyria. I've already seen some assassin runes in Droks, so maybe they're thinking about it... probably not, lol
Xenrath
It's fine (so far) but then I've not had much time to play too much. I prefered the skill/quest system from Chapter 1 though, instead of buying most skills (as it is in Factions) it made it far more interesting and rewarding to quest for it.
A little disappointed about not getting true full access to both chapters by merging. As I don't PvP a whole lot, I wanted to be able to use my new classes to help guildies in Tyrian missions and also pick up skills from early Tyria quests but you can't do this. I don't care what the mathmagicians on here say, it felt like being cheated out of full access for no apparent reason.
I got the C.E. and overall the box contents and such are good, but not sure if I'd do the same for Chapter 3 if it continues like this (restricting content/merges etc), if I'd even get it.
A little disappointed about not getting true full access to both chapters by merging. As I don't PvP a whole lot, I wanted to be able to use my new classes to help guildies in Tyrian missions and also pick up skills from early Tyria quests but you can't do this. I don't care what the mathmagicians on here say, it felt like being cheated out of full access for no apparent reason.
I got the C.E. and overall the box contents and such are good, but not sure if I'd do the same for Chapter 3 if it continues like this (restricting content/merges etc), if I'd even get it.
Joiya Byir
NOT worth it. From a pve perspective $50 is a robbery for this expansion; from a pvp perspective it's more like blackmail, since the only thing you may need to stay competitive are the new skills.
felinette
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NOT worth it. From a pve perspective $50 is a robbery for this expansion; from a pvp perspective it's more like blackmail, since the only thing you may need to stay competitive are the new skills.
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Having said that, the PvE content itself isn't all that hot in terms of how enjoyable and fun it is. If you have $50 to spend on a game and you mainly PvE, you might want to spend that $50 elsewhere.
Artisan
Well, here's the thing.
Factions isn't as good as Prophecies, but it still is pretty good.
So if you think that Prophecies was worth a lot more than you paid for it, you'll probably think Factions is worth the price. If you think Prophecies was only worth about what you paid for it, you'll think Factions was a ripoff.
Think of it this way:
If Prophecies cost 80$, would you buy it?
If yes, you'll like Factions for 50$.
If no, you won't.
Factions isn't as good as Prophecies, but it still is pretty good.
So if you think that Prophecies was worth a lot more than you paid for it, you'll probably think Factions is worth the price. If you think Prophecies was only worth about what you paid for it, you'll think Factions was a ripoff.
Think of it this way:
If Prophecies cost 80$, would you buy it?
If yes, you'll like Factions for 50$.
If no, you won't.
Lonesamurai
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You either love it or hate it!
Simple and it actually seems like its 50/50
frickett
Yeah, henching is tougher this time around. But that is probably mostly my fault. I have only made it up to the Vizuna Local quarter with henchies.
Lonesamurai
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Yeah, henching is tougher this time around. But that is probably mostly my fault. I have only made it up to the Vizuna Local quarter with henchies.
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The henchies are great now (except the 'sin henchies who are agro magnets!!!)
As I work nights I've missed a lot of play time with my other half and my guildies, so I've been getting to know the henchies really well and they've not let me down yet
Francis Demeules
It worth for those who love it. If you blame about Faction, blame yourself bc you buy it. Man, this was happening when Prophecies comes out. People start complaining it sucked compared to WoW and it wouldnt getting any success. What happened in the best game of the year 2005? Guild Wars in head for popularity in online game. Just give Anet some time to fix it like before they did with Prophecies and gives more area like SF and Tomb (After the corruption).
I remember the first big bug they fix when GWP started : Cant go out of Ascalon city in pre-searing and get a fatal error.
Anyway, just give time to make it perfect like the older one.
I remember the first big bug they fix when GWP started : Cant go out of Ascalon city in pre-searing and get a fatal error.
Anyway, just give time to make it perfect like the older one.
Eet GnomeSmasher
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Also the complaints for Factions out weigh the ones for Prophecies all ready and Factions hasn't been out that long.
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Skill Elite capturing was horrible back then. And there were no PVP faction points. There were no rune traders so getting runes was a lot harder. Attribute refunds were not unlimited. And so many others. There were plenty of complaints about those things just like how there are complaints about Factions now. Except now (barring a few cases) people are just nitpicking.
Francis Demeules
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Skill Elite capturing was horrible back then. And there were no PVP faction points. There were no rune traders so getting runes was a lot harder. Attribute refunds were not unlimited. And so many others. There were plenty of complaints about those things just like how there are complaints about Factions now. Except now (barring a few cases) people are just nitpicking.
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Att Refunds: Can switch only 20 time and wait after that about 1h to gain 1 pts of AR.
Bad Times.
healthsoldier0570
After having set up this thread, I can undoubtably say that Factions is not as good as the original. It just sounds less fun. The scenery and sounds of the game (the presentation) sounds impressive, but I don't think it is worth the buy. I am probably going to buy it anyways because I will have some extra money soon. When I first bought Guild Wars in July, it was $55 I believe. It barely went down $5 since then, so waiting for Factions to go down might be a while. I am just going to get it now, I am not too poor to where I cannot afford $5.
MSecorsky
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After having set up this thread, I can undoubtably say that Factions is not as good as the original. It just sounds less fun. The scenery and sounds of the game (the presentation) sounds impressive, but I don't think it is worth the buy. I am probably going to buy it anyways because I will have some extra money soon. When I first bought Guild Wars in July, it was $55 I believe. It barely went down $5 since then, so waiting for Factions to go down might be a while. I am just going to get it now, I am not too poor to where I cannot afford $5.
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Besides... no one mentioned another fine feature... NEW PETS!
Theos
Basing something off a web poll is not the best idea, most of the people enjoying the game are playing. The only reason I am even here is because I am in school. People will complain because they are human, tunnel vision is a hot thing amongst humans. If you also look around you see the same people complaining over and over again about the same thing, then if you pay more attention you will notice more and more people defending the game; reminiscant of Prophecies release... almost the exact same infact.
Those who say content is lacking... well I don't know how you play, but if you simply do mission -> primary quest -> mission etc... you won't get much. But if you actually take your time to look around, even in the city, you will find some very interesting things, like hidden quests, nice armour crafters, and other what nots. New twists Prophecies didn't have beyond FoW. The content is there, its just in need of finding, and people are finding it and enjoying it... while others just complain that A isn't B and B isn't A.
I would be glad to argue it but... I am enjoying the game... so sorry. Is it worth 50? Yes. Simple.
Those who say content is lacking... well I don't know how you play, but if you simply do mission -> primary quest -> mission etc... you won't get much. But if you actually take your time to look around, even in the city, you will find some very interesting things, like hidden quests, nice armour crafters, and other what nots. New twists Prophecies didn't have beyond FoW. The content is there, its just in need of finding, and people are finding it and enjoying it... while others just complain that A isn't B and B isn't A.
I would be glad to argue it but... I am enjoying the game... so sorry. Is it worth 50? Yes. Simple.
CK0
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xelloss12
It's so good I bought 2 factions accounts for my 2 original accounts.
samifly
I would get it, the factions skills will give you new ways to experiance Prophecies.
healthsoldier0570
I am happy with this thread. It has brought a lot of controversy. This isn't only going to help me, but many other players out there. It seems like enjoying the game depends on what kind of person you are. If you are a perfectionist, of course you would say it sucks, because no second chapter of anything is better than its original in my opinion (except for maybe the Godfather movies). I think people have expected too much of it. Maybe the whole point of the game was to enhance the gaming experience. It may have been better to only allow you to play it if you have the original (like the SIMS games). Like an expansion pack rather than a whole new game. People who have not played the original may think the game sucks, but I can say I will like Factions because I have the original. I think the only good thing I have heard of that has come from Factions is minipets and new pets. The professions (assasin and ritualists) do not even sound that great. In the end, I think the monk will always be the most interesting profession of them all. Nothing wil ever come close to the tanks damage or the monks abilities as a healer and a fighter.
BrotherGilburt
well, weither itys worth buying it or not totally depends on what type of person you are.
-Do you like playing out all the primary quests and missions?
-Do you mind if some of the missions make take several trys?
-Do you mind that almost every mission in the game is up against level 20 creatures(makeing more missions in the game more challenging)?
Advantages:
-There are money awards as you go along
-New skills and elites
-Almost every boss can drop greens
-You can craft +5 energy(at all times) weapons at end game zone.
-Challenge missions(faction, XP, and money awards)
-2 new professions(both pretty interesting)
-You level up to 20 fast
-New Armor
-New pets
-Elite skills to cap right away
-You can bring prophecies characters into factions
I definatly find it worth getting. But thats my opinion. What do you think?
Brother Gilburt
-Do you like playing out all the primary quests and missions?
-Do you mind if some of the missions make take several trys?
-Do you mind that almost every mission in the game is up against level 20 creatures(makeing more missions in the game more challenging)?
Advantages:
-There are money awards as you go along
-New skills and elites
-Almost every boss can drop greens
-You can craft +5 energy(at all times) weapons at end game zone.
-Challenge missions(faction, XP, and money awards)
-2 new professions(both pretty interesting)
-You level up to 20 fast
-New Armor
-New pets
-Elite skills to cap right away
-You can bring prophecies characters into factions
I definatly find it worth getting. But thats my opinion. What do you think?
Brother Gilburt
healthsoldier0570
I think it could be. I am going to get it, but that is only because I have the money. If I was piss poor, I wouldn't get it. It probably isn't worth it. I just want to try it.
Francis Demeules
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ok.
Theos said something that I tried to say before. Same thing about Prophecies when it started: all bugged, unstable servers, lot of complain in forums blablabla...... I was on GWP since the it came out and I know the evolution, see the problems Anet fixed and more. I saw players complaining during weeks and even the first 2 months about bugs, poor storyline, etc. Same thing here. We start complaining about something new. If you loved the beta of Faction, why you hate it now then? If its about closed doors, its not a good point. Doors is used to stop running because some players complaining about that in Prophecies. Its not by complaining you can change Factions, its by cooperate with Anet to fix and try to give any need for all players to make this world better. Who knows, perhaps they will create a sorrow furnace style area later. Dont rush like madness, everyone has their own points on Faction and many is different.
I try to stay neutral to everyone in this forum. But when I saw ppl who say bullshit on something new already, that makes me mad and I say, they havent exp a little more, visit the area correctly, searching, etc. Finish the game already? I call rush.
I will say again..... and again,
Give Anet some times before judging something new to let them fix.If you dont like Faction, at least you can get the content with it with the new skills.
-FD-
Mustache Mayhem
well beat the game with a ritualist.. all quests and missions done- games beautiful as you explore in.. the newbie island though- hard to describe it but it sucks lol after you get off of that (equivalent to pre-searing) you'll see how much work they put into it.. some things like the jade sea and the lower half of the kurzic map made it worth the money for me.. also it's not unbeatable with henches- I did every mission and quest except 2 (arbor and shiro) with henches.. more challenge than prophecies but that makes it more fun
healthsoldier0570
Ya well, this argument of this thread will never be resolved. There are just too many people who play. There is one thing we can all agree on...Guild Wars is just a fun game. No matter which chapter you play, it will always satisfy your hunger for a fun game. Just judging on opinions in this thread, I have to guess that Prophecies is more fun. Factions is good in the way you can have more pets, new armor, and harder missions, but Prophecies seems better in the way that it has more missions, less requirements to even get to do missions, and more to choose from in overall game play.