So I get to Seitung Harbor and what do I find? Glorious new armor, finally a real upgrade.
And then the price hits me. Ritualist:
A Canthan set requires 16 steel ingots.
A Shing Jae set requires 16 leather squares.
A Seitung set requires 16 monstrous claws.
And these armors are only 45. I can't wait to see what they might be later. In a year of playing the game, that's 1/3 of my total ever salvaged steel ingots, 1/2 of my ever leather squares and well... I've only ever gotten 3 monstrous claws. And that's expert salvaging pretty much everything Jungle and beyond. How the @$& is this suppsoed to be purchased, ESPECIALLY by someone who hasn't had months of farming in Prophecies behind them?
Armor is too expensive
mqstout
DaerunAxis
use the material crafters
mqstout
Monstrous claws are not material crafter-able. Leather Squares and moreso steel ingots DEVOUR the tanned hide and iron/wood I already have used up so much of.
Diablo???
You don't always need the latest and greatest armor wherever you go (unless a warrior), Just wait until you find the 1.5k armor, and save up for that, by then you should have either the resources or the funds to acquire the armor.
mqstout
I tried that with my other character. Things in the city were doing 200+ damage per hit because of the low armor. That's not an option. I skipped Shing Jae and Rose Garden's armor as it is.
Diablo???
Monstrous Claw should be craftable from the Rare-Materials Merchant.
Nominal_Fee
Every armor has a cheap version with the same armor rating but no "extras". They cost like a half the amount of gold and require no rare materials.
krozz
UndeadRoadkill
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use the material crafters
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That said, I crafted Seitung Harbour armor and Kaineng Center armor during the worst of it without too much of a problem.
prodigy ming
its weird how you need like (I forgot the exact numbers) 10 or something iron ingont, 1 charcoal and 200g to craft a steel igont. charcoal cost like another 100 i think.
while you can buy steel ignot for 300g
while you can buy steel ignot for 300g
UndeadRoadkill
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Monstrous Claw should be craftable from the Rare-Materials Merchant.
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Manic Smile
It's like saying that Plasma HD tv in the store should be cheaper so you can buy it because you want it because it looks pretty.
Come on, if you want it work for it. When propehcies came out it took me a week of stait farming in order to affor d 15k scars. Steel is not hard to get...go farm Sorrow's Furnace and expert salvage the armor there.
Stop wanting everything for free.
Claws and Eyes drop like candy from Afflicited I have 4 of each from about 3 days of playing.
Come on, if you want it work for it. When propehcies came out it took me a week of stait farming in order to affor d 15k scars. Steel is not hard to get...go farm Sorrow's Furnace and expert salvage the armor there.
Stop wanting everything for free.
Claws and Eyes drop like candy from Afflicited I have 4 of each from about 3 days of playing.
unda dawg
thats not much...16 leather sq. is only about 4k?
edit: wait sry thats fur sq. leather is cheaper. even if it was 4k thats like 45 mins of farming FoW until u get a shard wow!
edit: wait sry thats fur sq. leather is cheaper. even if it was 4k thats like 45 mins of farming FoW until u get a shard wow!
Diablo???
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That's not crafting. Crafting is done at the 'materials' guy.
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Str0b0
Well the monsterous items have come back down a lot in price and now that a lot of rare materials are falling as drops you can expect all but the most high end rare materials to be reasonably priced. Shortages will cause price to spike because then, frankly, the players who have the goods can charge whatever they want and if you want it badly enough you'll pay. Still all kinds of interesting drops are falling form enemies. I've even gotten spiritwood planks from regular old enemies around that lagoon on the beginner island. Also a good place to farm for dye, Mantids like to drop it. you could probably spend a few hours a day just killing all the manitds and dragon lillies and tangled roots you find and come out ok for crafting materials. Between crappy item drops and the rare materials drops you can come away with all you need for your 1.5K armor set by the time you hit the mainland.
unda dawg
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So I get to Seitung Harbor and what do I find? Glorious new armor, finally a real upgrade.
And then the price hits me. Ritualist: A Canthan set requires 16 steel ingots. A Shing Jae set requires 16 leather squares. A Seitung set requires 16 monstrous claws. And these armors are only 45. I can't wait to see what they might be later. In a year of playing the game, that's 1/3 of my total ever salvaged steel ingots, 1/2 of my ever leather squares and well... I've only ever gotten 3 monstrous claws. And that's expert salvaging pretty much everything Jungle and beyond. How the @$& is this suppsoed to be purchased, ESPECIALLY by someone who hasn't had months of farming in Prophecies behind them? |
wait u said uve been playing for a year and u dont have 4k? and then u said u dont have prophecies so how cood u have been playing for a year!?
Dusk_
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wait u said uve been playing for a year and u dont have 4k? and then u said u dont have prophecies so how cood u have been playing for a year!?
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Doing all the factions quests and missions should have netted you 4k atleast. Just use that money.
mqstout
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Come on, if you want it work for it. When propehcies came out it took me a week of stait farming in order to affor d 15k scars. Steel is not hard to get...go farm Sorrow's Furnace and expert salvage the armor there.
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Sorrow's Furnace? Hah. Been there once, blah. "Farm" isn't something to do when I only get a precious few hours to play per week.
Manic Smile
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Try actually reading his post...
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mqstout
Please go compare to the armor prices in Henge of Denravi. Same armor value -- hugely less expensive. Glitter Dust is one of the "rare" materials for that armor.
unda dawg
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meh...save yourself the time
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haha thanks
Nominal_Fee
And now, to all the whining idiots up there, let me repeat: every single armor crafter offers a version that DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY RARE MATERIALS AT ALL. The max. armor for the rit costs like 100 cloth and 750 gold a piece. It has been designed for all the cheap noobs out there and has the same armor rating and energy bonuses as the real thing.
guppy
There are a lot of differences for factions PvE compared to prophecies...
As for people telling you to farm.. welcome to the sad truth of guild wars, the economy is not for new players... It's you and the trader for a month or so
As for people telling you to farm.. welcome to the sad truth of guild wars, the economy is not for new players... It's you and the trader for a month or so
Lepton CFd
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UndeadRoadkill
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Thank you, krozz. I was reading through this forum and I was wondering when/if someone was going to say that. Collector's Armor is for a reason. It's for the people that would prefer to collect certain random mateirals rather than saving up money/materials. If you don't like its look, deal with it until you can afford the cooler/better armor.
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Ilya Khan
You may get new "Exotic" armor from an exotic armor crafter in Cantha. He will sell you a specially skinned (Max Armor) armor peice in return for, I beleive, cloth and silk (+1.5k). I found this to be the cheapest skinned armor for it's looks and purpose since silk is so cheap right now. The location is near a dock southwest of the Marketplace just southwest of where it will say Wajjun Bazaar. Best of luck!
KvanCetre
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So I get to Seitung Harbor and what do I find? Glorious new armor, finally a real upgrade.
And then the price hits me. Ritualist: A Canthan set requires 16 steel ingots. A Shing Jae set requires 16 leather squares. A Seitung set requires 16 monstrous claws. And these armors are only 45. I can't wait to see what they might be later. In a year of playing the game, that's 1/3 of my total ever salvaged steel ingots, 1/2 of my ever leather squares and well... I've only ever gotten 3 monstrous claws. And that's expert salvaging pretty much everything Jungle and beyond. How the @$& is this suppsoed to be purchased, ESPECIALLY by someone who hasn't had months of farming in Prophecies behind them? |
Quit whining and pay attention.
Markaedw
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You may get new "Exotic" armor from an exotic armor crafter in Cantha. He will sell you a specially skinned (Max Armor) armor peice in return for, I beleive, cloth and silk (+1.5k). I found this to be the cheapest skinned armor for it's looks and purpose since silk is so cheap right now. The location is near a dock southwest of the Marketplace just southwest of where it will say Wajjun Bazaar. Best of luck!
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Gert Butterfing
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I was just there, he has your basic ascalon stuff, well at least for my ele.
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http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Tyrian_Armor
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save up tbh
never hurt me, takes time but when u finally buy that armour and you think
"I look so damn sexy/hard/godly/amazing [u pick]" u will realize that it was worth it
in was sitting on 100k+ in debt for my FoW armour and when i finally payed it off i had about 80k left ¬_¬ since then i have bought 15k druids armour for my ranger, but it's all worth it cos now she looks damn sexy, i like my chars to look nice =]
I plan on buying 15k armour for my Warrior [another set - gettin 15k kurz]
15k armour for my ritualist [15k kurz]
a new set for my monk [1.5k or 15k kurz]
not to mention my mesmer and assassin when i make them
its gnna be hard to save up all that money but so long as u set targets
"Today i will make ...k"
you can make it, just focus on what u want to buy. Dont try and get armour for all your characters at once you wont make it.
Thats how i managed it for my FoW and now my necro looks ace =]
hope that helps =]
never hurt me, takes time but when u finally buy that armour and you think
"I look so damn sexy/hard/godly/amazing [u pick]" u will realize that it was worth it
in was sitting on 100k+ in debt for my FoW armour and when i finally payed it off i had about 80k left ¬_¬ since then i have bought 15k druids armour for my ranger, but it's all worth it cos now she looks damn sexy, i like my chars to look nice =]
I plan on buying 15k armour for my Warrior [another set - gettin 15k kurz]
15k armour for my ritualist [15k kurz]
a new set for my monk [1.5k or 15k kurz]
not to mention my mesmer and assassin when i make them
its gnna be hard to save up all that money but so long as u set targets
"Today i will make ...k"
you can make it, just focus on what u want to buy. Dont try and get armour for all your characters at once you wont make it.
Thats how i managed it for my FoW and now my necro looks ace =]
hope that helps =]
Draxx
Personally i dont think its 2 expensive at all, the armour gives you something to aim for money wise or farm and save up for. i bought my 1.5k Luxon which i love and got the jadeite myself. i think the prices are good because all the runes are so damn cheap now. plus compared to like 'epic' armour in WoW its so much cheaper and easier to get.
just work for it, thats why its there.
just work for it, thats why its there.
samifly
Steel and Leather arn't that rare. To make up for the fact you get to lvl 20 darned fast in this game, I assume they made the armor more expensive to compensate.
Carth`
They seriously increased the money you get and the quality of drops in Factions. Although I had a load of stuff in storage, I didn't have to use any of it when I made an assassin and bought armour. Every time I needed to buy armour, I already found I had enough gold and salvage items to make every piece, just from my pickups. The Seitung Harbour armour was very cheap in my opinion
Witchblade
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Please go compare to the armor prices in Henge of Denravi. Same armor value -- hugely less expensive. Glitter Dust is one of the "rare" materials for that armor.
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u can easily get steel from salvageable armors/weapons +-4 on a highly salvageable blue item
u can get yer 1.5 armor just by selling a good drop or a mini pet that are sold easily atm .. a minipet sale ll buy all armors u need for an account
or just salvage a perfect mod on a gold item..
Esprit
Monstrous Claws, when in stock, are 750 each. You need about 32 for a full set of armor, that's 24k + 7.5k for the armor. Not exactly cheap.
Former Ruling
Armor is more expensive.
I personally think it was to compensate for the Ch1 accounts that have been saving for it.
Anyway - NEVER buy stat'ed armor that isn't max AL. I always use either collectors or the cheap stuff at the crafter until the 1.5k armor.
Compare like ~70 Bolts of Cloth to ~70 bolts of cloth + leather sqaures or +steel ingots. The first is practically free compared.
And beleive me, nothing before you can get to Kienieg Center is going to require you to want those extra stats on the armor.
(BTW, once off the island, you can run directly to Kienieg Center yourself - theres only 1 group of enemies on the way, and they are usually fighting guards so you can run past). You basically will stay in that 45 AL armor for all of 1 mission and 2 quests max.
I personally think it was to compensate for the Ch1 accounts that have been saving for it.
Anyway - NEVER buy stat'ed armor that isn't max AL. I always use either collectors or the cheap stuff at the crafter until the 1.5k armor.
Compare like ~70 Bolts of Cloth to ~70 bolts of cloth + leather sqaures or +steel ingots. The first is practically free compared.
And beleive me, nothing before you can get to Kienieg Center is going to require you to want those extra stats on the armor.
(BTW, once off the island, you can run directly to Kienieg Center yourself - theres only 1 group of enemies on the way, and they are usually fighting guards so you can run past). You basically will stay in that 45 AL armor for all of 1 mission and 2 quests max.
Esprit
You can stay in 15 AL armor until you can get armor on the mainland. One of my guildies stayed in the started (5 AL) armor until the mainland, hehe.
Cloth drops like candy from most enemies. 15 pieces of cloth is a very common drop anymore.
One of my guildies stayed in the started (5 AL) armor until the mainland, hehe.Cloth drops like candy from most enemies. 15 pieces of cloth is a very common drop anymore.
Cymmina
Why are you wasting extra money/resources on armor that isn't max simply because you want those insignificant bonuses? Either get it from the collectors or buy the cheapest set that doesn't require additional materials. This system has been in place since late beta. Nothing has changed.
I guess you'll be really upset when you discover that there's actually armor that requires 15k, 150 hides, 15 silk, and 30 amber or whatever the cost is for Fissure of Woe armor (where one of the materials sells for ~5k each). Did I mention they offer no better defense than Kaineng Center?
I guess you'll be really upset when you discover that there's actually armor that requires 15k, 150 hides, 15 silk, and 30 amber or whatever the cost is for Fissure of Woe armor (where one of the materials sells for ~5k each). Did I mention they offer no better defense than Kaineng Center?
Mournblade
Or give it another week or two for the materials prices to settle back down to normal.
fiery
Armorers were decent in prices.