Thunderhead Keep Bonus - Bugged?

Formina

Formina

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

Slash Fail [ftl]

E/

Hello, just recently me and some other people recently attempted the Thunderhead Keep Bonus.

We lit the two Storm Beacons - and drew additional Murssat forces into the keep.

However, when we killed Confessor Dorian at the end, we did not receive credit for the bonus. We went exploring to kill the rest of the Mursaat, and when we did, we still did not receive credit.

Has anyone tried the bonus and sucessfully completed this bonus? And has paticular scenario occured to anyone else?

Thanks - Formina.

xerverkillah

xerverkillah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

foo.bar

Ladies Rhythm and Movement Club [MOVE]

R/

yes its a little glitchy. after u kill dorian and u still havent got bonus. just make sure no one talks to the king yet.

go outside and scout the area. u should find some murssat and jades hanging around. kill them and u will get bonus

p.s i think it might be a bit of a hit/miss. because first time i did it i didnt get bonus but 2nd time i did it i got bonus.

Prefectus

Prefectus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Jeresy

R/

beacons also have a 30 sec timer to be lit after the first cutsceen in th fort

xerverkillah

xerverkillah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

foo.bar

Ladies Rhythm and Movement Club [MOVE]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prefectus
beacons also have a 30 sec timer to be lit after the first cutsceen in th fort ns? would have been nice if it says that in the quest log or something

carbajac

carbajac

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Medicine Cabinet [PILL]

E/

Yeah, I just did it today (trying to get the title). If you take too long to light the beacons, the Mursaat will have killed the Dwarves in the town next to the Keep. You're best bet is to have two people light one beacon each, it's faster that way.

Formina

Formina

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

Slash Fail [ftl]

E/

After we killed all the Mursaat, we saw the Dwarven Soldiers.. they were still alive -_-

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

You don't get credit for the bonus until you talk to the king.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

What Asrial said. You don't get the second sword and credit until you finish the mission by talking to the king.

Danica Kalmar

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Austria

and you don't have to kill the mursaat outside thk to get the bonus

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

And its not quite 30 seconds either. I think its closer to 60, to allow for people to do it with henchman without a running skill. I lit both on my warrior using hench without Sprint, went outside to check 1 side and the dwarves were still alive and kicking.

I've done the mission a few times to explore it (meaning reached the fort and ran off), if you go towards the edges you'll see 3 jades wandering around just outside where the dwarves are, then suddenly a Mursaat Ele and Jade spawn practically on top of them and wipe them out. I'm guessing lighting the beacons basically stops them spawning there, thing is 1 trip the Jade patrol outside got too close and killed the dwarves anyway... which might of stopped you doing the bonus.... least we can hope not.

danyjr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asrial
You don't get credit for the bonus until you talk to the king. We lit both of them in 30 seconds, killed the boss, no sign of "Bonus Failed". It said, go talk to King. We talked to him and only one sword. How the hell am I supposed to do this freaking mission?

Bertie Bullet Bow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

I was trying to do this with heroes and henchies for a while and had the same problem - thought I did everything right and still didn't get bonus. But then I found that one group of dwarves always died (I'm sure it was in well under 30 seconds). Then I equipped a running skill and lit both beacons as quick as I could, and I got the bonus at the end.

I think you just have to be extra quick.

However, you say both groups of dwarves were still alive and you didn't get bonus. If you're being honest about that, I would say there is a glitch.

By the way, this mission is now very easy with henchies and heroes - I remember when it was all but impossible without real people. Amazing how times change.

danyjr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bertie Bullet Bow
However, you say both groups of dwarves were still alive and you didn't get bonus. If you're bring honest about that, I would say there is a glitch. Does it say Mission Failed when the dwarves die?

Bertie Bullet Bow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

No it didn't for me. I only found out when I'd wasted another 20 minutes getting to the end.

But if I recall, the dwarves get a bit panicky and say "aaaarrggh" etc when the mursaat start attacking them. Before that they're just saying they're surrounded etc.

danyjr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

So, I think I'll have to be quicker next time. This doesn't seem to be easy.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

hm I did this hella easy with my assassin, 3 heroes, and 4 henches, a couple days ago. Assassin had one run skill and lit both beacons in time. The rest was bonus history

dark_prince2023

dark_prince2023

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

W/Mo

hmm. I also read somewhere that after you light the beacons you can hide behind the king from the first group that comes in and they will kill the others until they die off before you have to do any fighting! Haven't tryed it but going to sometime soon!

danyjr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by dark_prince2023
hmm. I also read somewhere that after you light the beacons you can hide behind the king from the first group that comes in and they will kill the others until they die off before you have to do any fighting! Haven't tryed it but going to sometime soon! yeah cause their armour isn't infused

GWWiki ftw!

trekkie dude

trekkie dude

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

W/Mo

yeah also good idea to use the catapult before talking to the king to begin the second part of the mission. kills those trolls outside and often times enemy troops like to camp there for like 30 seconds so you can pound them a little.

Darko_UK

Darko_UK

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

England

R/

You have to light the beacons IMEDIATLY not oh you know what i think i want the bonus ill just go over here and....aww no bonus what the hell let's complain

Soul of the Scythe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Boston, MA

Higher Order [HO]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dark_prince2023
hmm. I also read somewhere that after you light the beacons you can hide behind the king from the first group that comes in and they will kill the others until they die off before you have to do any fighting! Haven't tryed it but going to sometime soon! Yeah you can, the jades that come in will attack ANYTHING that comes in Stone Summit, White Mantle, and even the other Mursaat and Jade. They can take out the first like 6 or 7 groups. Works very well as long as you dont have some idiot who aggros them.

shanaya

shanaya

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Scouts of Tyria

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by danyjr
We lit both of them in 30 seconds, killed the boss, no sign of "Bonus Failed". It said, go talk to King. We talked to him and only one sword. How the hell am I supposed to do this freaking mission? I think you must have taken longer than 30 seconds to light the beacons.

You do not get a message that says 'bonus failed' if you fail to light the beacons quickly enough.

You have exactly 30 seconds to light the beacons from the time the cinematic finishes. If you see the following text appear then you have been too slow:

"The end is here! Great Dwarf save us!" - this means the dwarf party has been killed.

Iuris

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

From experience I know that a running skill is not neded to get the bonus. With heroes and henchmen I simply flag the party at the king and walk to the two beacons. Remember to light each with the torch next to it - if you carry the torch with you, it slows you down. The danger here was never failing the bonus - rather it was accidentally aggroing the incoming Stone summit groups, which can be a problem to a solo character with the party parked far far away.

I'm quite certain that the player simply thought "If the dwarves survive, I'm OK", and found out that the dwarves who managed to survive on their own are not happy that there was no help from the big heroes...

Highlander Of Alba

Highlander Of Alba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Real Rogue Clan

Rt/Mo

This Mission as some may testify can be a little frustarting to say the least if a team does not pull to-gether.....

The main aim is to defeat ...ensuring the King does not die....


I will hope to enlighten and comments can be added on the view to this mission......

When you have reached the part when you kill first boss in arena...skip video...

lite the 2 fires east and west if you wish bonus...30sec limit to lite both fires....


If you all stand close to king for a few minutes the Jade who enter arena
will stay there till the Musserattt come in.....the Jade will Kill the musseratt beleive it or not lol

When they have did this this is where teamwork pays off

and mission can be a success


The Monk***( explain later)


Now you have 2 ways i found this successful either stay on top in front of King
2 guys when they see the enemy appearing on compass use the catapults on east/west side to take out some who appear on east side


near the end THE KING. will come off his stand...Important Part...The Monk***** if the Monk keeps casting healing breeze as with another on him while the rest take out the last few guys and Confessor Boss..

he will not die.....
.................................................. ................................

The Central Position Method........this can be done if all guys use the middle of arena and 2 run up to use catapults on east and west and run down(this works in Bonus as well)....................

Always look for the king near the end as he will run to any/both sides to fight last few guys.......Healing Breeze on him...to
protect


Many missions are Lost though a little Greed to pick up the drops...

Dont...get them during the lull before each attack if you wish as seen many missions fail cause guys run off to get a drop...


The BONUS........there is a time limit in lighting the fires its 30 secs to light both east and west.......If on your own run left first lite becon then still holding same torrch run accross the middle and up stairs on right side this allows you plenty of time under the 30 sewc time limit

Using either of the methods above will do the bonus also with just a few things near End when king moves off stand...


When you kill Cofessor the Last Boss..and it asks you to speak to the King.........DO NOT SPEAK TO HIM YET...... go out east gate all of you to find last 2 groups of Jades kill these guys and at bottom you see cave just run in and out and when you have killed them.Musseratt can be on right side also this lets you map out also and did that return to speak to King..you will then get bonus points also


this mission is easily henched...so if doing it with hench place flag in center in front of King....they hench have enough distance in them to take out both sides down to bottom of stairs and east and west when you get attacked from the top side also

Estic

Estic

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mongoose United

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iuris
From experience I know that a running skill is not neded to get the bonus. With heroes and henchmen I simply flag the party at the king and walk to the two beacons. Remember to light each with the torch next to it - if you carry the torch with you, it slows you down. The danger here was never failing the bonus - rather it was accidentally aggroing the incoming Stone summit groups, which can be a problem to a solo character with the party parked far far away. Agreed, I have the same experience. Just light the first beacon, drop the torch and walk to the other beacon pick up the torch next to it and light it. After that just walk back to your party (and the king).

Pure Disasta

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Wow i absolutely hate this piece of shit. I spent like what 1-2 hours doing this with henchs killed absolutely every moving thing on the entire map and nothing lit the beacons in under 30 seconds and both of the dwarf groups were alive. SO RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING LAME. If anyone is willing to help me out with this and run the bonus for me ill pay you like 5-10k and you can show me this stupid thing is actually possible. My ign is glorified death

gumbut

gumbut

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Great North, Toronto

There seems to be a small glitch or bug with the bonus in Thunderhead Keep. I did this mission two months ago with my nuker, heroes, and henchmen. After you light the beacons just stand behind King Jalis Ironhammer. The Jade Amours will come in and kill all those monsters coming in. Eventually, the Mursaat will come and kill off the Jade Armours. When you defeat the last boss (Dorian), talk to King Jalis and he'll give you credit for the bonus. Usually, when you finish the bonus in Prophecies, you see the shield and sword display. However, in Thunderhead Keep there is a bug. A PUG is very challenging because you have people not following your call targets and warriors running to the next group of foes before your energy re-charges for you casters. Just use henchmen and heroes. The other method of splitting group in two small groups at each door has like a 50% success rate from my experience. Light the beacons and stand behind Jalis Ironhammer and let the Jade amours kill the first couple of waves of monsters.

Clerihew

Clerihew

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

At the bar

Dragons of Ice and Flame [Ice]

Mo/

I did it with my sin a day or two ago without trouble. Like everyone says, light the beacons quickly with a run skill and talk to the King. If it doesn't work then I guess it must be glitchy...

Frazzy

Frazzy

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

Canada

Unavailable

Mo/Me

I completed Thunderhead Keep today and did not receive the bonus.
This is what I did:
-I cleared the fort and skipped the cut scene
-I immediately lit two storm beacons
-Sat on top of the stairwell with henchmen in front of the king until I killed Confessor Dorian
-Went outside and killed everything
-Saw a group of Soldiers, still alive outside
-Talked to the King and got pissed that I was not rewarded the bonus so I posted this here.

*NOTE*I killed every monster on the map.

Frazzy

Frazzy

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

Canada

Unavailable

Mo/Me

Double post...darn lag

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

Odd. A few weeks ago I did the mission with a friend (he had a lot of trouble with it, so the two of us henched it). We died the first time since we couldn't catapult enough giants at the start. This happened a second time, and I got really annoyed. Then I read how if you lit the beacons, the jades would come and pretty much tear through the first few waves.

...so I lit one beacon, he lit the other (this was immediately after skipping the cutscene). We still got the bonus.