Quick and easy troll farming with video

legless_the_elf

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Distant Land Called Canada EH!

Blazing Dragons

Mo/Me

Intro:
This build is actually unique as I have never seen anything like it before. So here it goes.

Skills:
Spirit bond
Glyph of lesser energy
Signet of judgement (can be subbed for anything almost)
Blessed Signet
Holy Wrath
Retribution
Blessed Aura
Life attunement

Attributes:
Prot: 14 (10+3)
Smite: 16 (12+4)
Divine Favor: 9 (8+1)

Items:
a full set of armor from piken square
FFS
a staff or focus to switch to in case

How to:
The core of this build is Spirit bond with life attunement because every time you get hit for over 60 you get healed for:
96*0.48+96= 142

You will however stil be taking the dmg but will be getting healed for the same amount therefor HW and Ret are perfect dmg dealers do the build

Step-by-step:

1-Cast enchants
2-use blessed sig for energy
3-Run to cave
4-aggro
5-cast SB then glyph
6-wait for SB to flash then recast it
7-watch them die
8-repeat 2-7 on next group(s)

This should take em down in about 13-15 seconds

I tried to make this guide as short as possible and maybe i made it too short so if there are any questions first consult video then just post em here.

Video link:
http://files.filefront.com/Gw_2avi/;.../fileinfo.html

Happy hunting

AscalonWarrior

AscalonWarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kokkola, Finland

Mo/

Holy s**t that was awesome

Nice work and nice build I got to try this

Levi Garett

Levi Garett

Old School Nub

Join Date: Jun 2005

ABQ, NM

Guildless

Mo/Me

Nice build. A couple questions:

Is Energy a problem with this build?

I don't see how you can re-cast anything if Holy Wrath is draining all of your energy (-10 EN per hit). I'm downloading the video so I can see for myself...it's really slow downloading it for some reason.

Also since your not really using Signet of Judgement perhaps you should try Glyph of Renewal?

So you could do-

Glyph of Renewal
Glyph of Lesser Energy
Spirit Bond

Thoughts?

Exile Of Heaven

Exile Of Heaven

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Netherlands

Farmers Union [CASH]

Mo/

another build like the trick u posted before GJ

Im working on a UW build a bit different, gonna post it soon!

its also a dual uw build

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

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Seriously. Wow. Good job.Awsome Job

I jus amazed seeing that video

legless_the_elf

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Distant Land Called Canada EH!

Blazing Dragons

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lint
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Seriously. Wow. Good job.Awsome Job

I jus amazed seeing that video lol, yea its quite quick...

anyways im jus wonderin: where else could this work? im thinking that a variation of it could work in other places eg:hydra uw etc but where could this exact one work?

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

This definatly can work at Elonas Reach with all the minatours out there.

bRA1N-b0X

bRA1N-b0X

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Minnesota

Whone Knights [ONE]

I like the video! Seems pretty effective. Is there a way to work around the Elementalist skills? Could one replace the Glyph with Divine Spirit, maybe? How dependent is the build on the Glyph?

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/



Filefront is the devil I swear... it started out well at 70kb/s then declined to 20kb/s... then this...

whoa very good. only thing about elona is, they dont come all at once.
with minos on you consantly, not enough time to bless sig and get it up there for the next batch of em.
according to my fuzzy math, you could absorb 16~17 hits inwhich do like 1184~1258 total...

personlly, once I buy factions I'll try this out with the elite Aura of Faith...

Opeth11

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

Same thing happened to me o.o

I guess that's the drawback for a free upload site of that quality. From Usendit or Rapidshare, I tend to hit the Hundreds.

legless_the_elf

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Distant Land Called Canada EH!

Blazing Dragons

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E


Filefront is the devil I swear... it started out well at 70kb/s then declined to 20kb/s... then this...
ouch, any ideas where else i could host it? btw try another server, thats what i do and sometimes i hit the jackpot and get a 400kb/sec one

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

all of them said, no wait... but not if they had huge traffic on em...

I'll edit in a mirror...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3K5LE7BX

Warrior Of Ascalonn

Warrior Of Ascalonn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

The Netherlands

Farmers Union [CASH]

W/

lol w000000t im gonna try this but one problem, i only have SOJ and not signet of judgment is ShieldOJ good to?

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

the point is, they kill themselves faster without knockdown, you could sub in shield of judgement but casting it will require more energy to use, signets dont need energy... also a plus was signet of judgment's recharge time to 25sec.

Quantum Nirvana

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

California, USA

Mo/

Very awsome build bro, I enjoyed trying it out.

I noticed on the video that you avoided the avicara, which I ended up finding the reason out for myself. Apparently the archers can't always do quite enough damage to trigger SB's healing, which ends your day pretty quick. I tried taking off all but the shoes and pants in order to increase the damage taken to trigger SB. It helped, but I decided to go a different path as well.

Retribution | Balth's Spirit | Essence Bond | Life Attune. | Blessed Signet | Spiteful Spirit | Reversal of Fortune | Spirit Bond

I put 11 att's in curses, about 12 in Protection, the rest into Smite and then Divine Favor. With this I could fairly easily farm the avi's just as i had with the 55 build. The speed without SS is slightly slower compared to 55'ing it however, but not being nearly as prone to interrupts makes it very simple to manage. The most difficult part was figuring out how much armor to wear in order to keep health at the maximum, but ended up just going with a full set of 15AL armor like the OP when facing the trolls. Also works well on the Elona minos.

Again, thanks for the insightful use of faction skills; I had already done a double take on this skill, but didn't realize how useful it could actually be!

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quantum Nir
Retribution | Balth's Spirit | Essence Bond | Life Attune. | Blessed Signet | Spiteful Spirit | Reversal of Fortune | Spirit Bond

I put 11 att's in curses, about 12 in Protection, the rest into Smite and then Divine Favor. With this I could fairly easily farm the avi's just as i had with the 55 build. The speed without SS is slightly slower compared to 55'ing it however, but not being nearly as prone to interrupts makes it very simple to manage. The most difficult part was figuring out how much armor to wear in order to keep health at the maximum, but ended up just going with a full set of 15AL armor like the OP when facing the trolls. Also works well on the Elona minos. Why do you wnat the build even faster? Why do you need thus build even faster? By the time you get enough energy to cast SS and cast it, the trolls are allready about dead.

If you might try soloing UW theres a couple of considerations you have to make.. First, be a Mo/W
.
-No energy. To resolve it you need to bring bonnetis defence and be able to cast spirit bond again.

-Maybe teh Aatxes will deal to much dmg to handle. To resolve this MAYBE add Aura of Faith to get alot more healing boost.

Armor- Definatly anything better then Piken.

Quantum Nirvana

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

California, USA

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lint
Why do you wnat the build even faster? Why do you need thus build even faster? By the time you get enough energy to cast SS and cast it, the trolls are allready about dead. My goal wasn't to make the build faster than the original (if you're comparing with the OP's build), rather able to farm creatures for longer than 2 casts of SB since it seems the fierce avicara's take a little longer to kill. This would make the build more universal, thus more useful. SS was simply an added bonus to make up for the lack of Holy Wrath.

I was casting SS before aggro, and then again when it recharged in 10 secs. Balth's Aura and Essence Bond makes for plenty of energy when facing 12+ trolls outside Droks, not even including blessed signet.

known12345

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

what is "FFS"?

Griev

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Brantford, Ontario, Canada

Perfectly Normal Beasts [MEAT]

W/

Fiery Flame Spitter

For F**ks Sake

Niosisw

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Few Fallen Heros [FFH]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lint
-No energy. To resolve it you need to bring bonnetis defence and be able to cast spirit bond again.

-Maybe teh Aatxes will deal to much dmg to handle. To resolve this MAYBE add Aura of Faith to get alot more healing boost. Point 1: Nope, can't... he's a mo/e, unless you are saying drop the glyph?
Point 2: Nope, he would have to do Vital blessing and prot spirit.

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

Quote:
Originally Posted by Niosisw
Point 1: Nope, can't... he's a mo/e, unless you are saying drop the glyph?
Point 2: Nope, he would have to do Vital blessing and prot spirit. Yes, I allready said you need to be a Mo/W if you read my post.

And maybe... Or if the Aatxes do only like 100 dmg or so, with Aura of Faith you will get healed for over 200 health.... I doupt the Aatxes will do more then 200 dmg.

Teutonic Paladin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

TW

W/

In my experience they hit MUCH MUCH MUCH higher than 150 sometimes as high as 200-300. They are unforgiving to those without strong armor.

Ietwat

Ietwat

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Holland

[JAMM] Justified Ancients of Moo Moo

Mo/

Me and my brother have a dual UW run Build that works with Spirit Bond and I can tell u the aaxte´s hit always more then 200 against 60 AI armor from a monk.

So we came with a solution the Smiter monk throws up Mending Holy Wrath and Retribution on the Tank monk, so that the Tank Monk will get energy from hit´s as long as he or she has Essence Bond or B. Spirit on him.

And the Smiter Monk is supposed to bring Vital Blessing and such so that the hp will be over 780 no the Tank Monk cuz with Deep wound u will get less then 60 damage over time with PS on. And that doesn't trigger Spirit Bond

With this tactic we now do UW Smite runs without the Coldfires under 20 min, but were still not comfortable with it cuz its way other than aa 55 hp and a ss/sv-er.

This we dont the smites monk has a Elite Slot open for the Coldfires and the Sec prof can be everything, were now testing what works the best against Dryder's and Coldfires.

legless_the_elf

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Distant Land Called Canada EH!

Blazing Dragons

Mo/Me

I have used this build to farm UW a few times (never have favor )
All you have to do is have one guy with SB, SB, Physial resist and life attune etc and nother guy with holy wrath and ret and aura of faith
then your home free and can aggro as many as you like

Znuggle

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

LTTT

E/Mo

I dont get how you can have both 14 and 16 attribs when hte piken helmet doesnt come with + attributes? :s what am i missing?

Quantum Nirvana

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

California, USA

Mo/

Tried a new skill set today, one that should be viable down in UW:

Mo/X Duo (not solo)

Retribution | Balthazars Spirit | Essence Bond | Vital Blessing | Spell Breaker | Protective Spirit | Spirit Bond | Blessed Signet

Casting Maintained enchants:
16 Smite, 10 Protection, 14 divine (all superiors, my 55 monk armor)

Fighting att's:
13 Smite, 8 Protection, 12 Divine (all minors)

Yeah, it's going a little back to what a 55 monk has, but with this build you can tank as many as you want and not die, as long as they are hitting above 60dmg each hit, and you aren't taking major degen.

Your health should be at about 621hp iir, and with p.s. you'll only take 62 damage. Spirit Bond is healing over 70 each time its triggered, which means you'll never have a deficit. No need for life attunement, or Aura of Faith. With two passive energy skills you shouldn't have a hard time casting p.s. and s.b when you need to, even with small groups. Worked very well against the trolls(health just stood there, didnt even move except when they couldnt do 60+dmg lol), and I even tried it out on the jade in the beginning of Ring of Fire (even with degen i was able to kill all of them before the mursaat got back to me). See what you think, I'll be trying it out in UW shortly.

EDIT: Tried this out in UW with some minor changes. I had a friend put max retribution and holy wrath on himself, and I just kept him alive. Works very well against the aatxe's but the grasping darknesses are so weak they cant trigger the spirit bond's healing, similar to the fierce avicara issue. Needless to say it was a slow death. Casting protective spirit and spirit bond proved to be not an issue as far as energy goes, but adding another skill in there like spell breaker seemed to get me worried when it came down small groups. Overall I found that it might get boring to be casting the same two spells every 8 seconds or so for more than 20 minutes. It was however more fun than going in there solo.

imisio

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

netherlands

Dutch Drunken Dudes

Mo/

i got a troll farming build with spirit bond and protective spirit that works even against the avicara fierces.

i will soon post the build with some pictures. but i dont have the time for it at the moment.

Mistical miss

Mistical miss

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands - Hattem

[RR]

You can go secondary mesmer, for interrupts versus the evil enchant shatterers (you might be able to interrupt one and wand the other before he rends you) and pick up sympathetic visage yourself

the core of the build can then be Spirit Bond, Protective Spirit,Life Attunement,Balthazars Spirit, Interrupt, *DMG* (SoJ/Retribution/Balt Aura), Ele resistance (for the grasping darkness, they usually don't deal enough dmg), sympathetic visage.
Maybe that can do the trick, haven't tried it out myself though.

Why_Me

Why_Me

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

New Jersey

Mo/

Another option is to use air of enchant+divine spirit (divine spirit needs to be cast first, or else your skills will cost 1 energy). This allows you to use any secondary you want, recast more than one skill in the middle of battle (and you can mend the aatxe conditions), and you can have prot spirit+spirit bond up for more than 25 seconds. Would that be enough to kill the aatxes?

[EDIT]- Quote:
And the Smiter Monk is supposed to bring Vital Blessing and such so that the hp will be over 780 no the Tank Monk cuz with Deep wound u will get less then 60 damage over time with PS on. And that doesn't trigger Spirit Bond Yes it does, the damage for spirit bond is monitored BEFORE PS kicks in.

imisio

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

netherlands

Dutch Drunken Dudes

Mo/

for spirit bond you dont need to have more then 600 hp.

my build is based on monk/mesmer.

prot spirit
spirit bond
elemental resistance
blessed signet
shield of judgement
retribution
baltazar spirit
blessed aura.

smite 12 + sup rune
prot 8 + minor rune
divine 10 (before casting i put a head scalp on me with a sup divine and +1 divine, that gives a 33% longer enchantment)

the elemental resistance is to get less armor against the avicara fierce.
retribution is for the extra dmg so it speeds up things. blessed signet is a little more energy for fighting against small groups.

armor:
i didn't have my starters armor anymore and that is a pitty because we want as low armor as possible. so i am wearing now the ascalon 15 armor. but only the sandals and pants and as headpart i got the dragon mask. the big andvance of the dragon mask is that you can put a rune on it (sup smite) and you dont get more armor. on the sandals i have a sup vigor.

weapons:
at the moment a kephets refuge. but i allready got a malion shield (+45hp enchanted) and i am looking for a sword/axe with +5 energy and +20% enchantment (totem axe).

the extra health is always nice for retribution, it deals more dmg back.

this build works very good versus trolls and avicara. it will work agianst tundras to, but then watch out for knock down.
u can use it also for UW but replace SOJ for Spell Breaker and elemental resistance for zealots fire. it take some time to take out te aatxe but it works. you can take a group of 6 aatxe, but look out for interupt. and you can have energy problems.

have fun with it

brettartie

brettartie

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Newmarket Ontario

Puppet Killers

A/W

i dont understand why you change your boots at the beginning of the video when you cast the last 2 enchants, can you explain?

iamthecrap

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

If All Else Fails

W/Mo

can u replace anything with sb

krawluB

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

wow, i cant really watch the video, becouse i can see only 1 frame/5 seconds.

Special_K

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by krawluB
wow, i cant really watch the video, becouse i can see only 1 frame/5 seconds. same here... 1 frame every 5 to 10 seconds.. i downloaded the video from both locations listed and watched both vids on 2 different computers. samething.... every other video runs perfect... use fraps to capture video next time and not "game cam".. never heard of that.. or it could be something else, i've never bother to capture video before.

Sir Bertrand

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

East Indian Company [EIG]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by brettartie
i dont understand why you change your boots at the beginning of the video when you cast the last 2 enchants, can you explain? I think he have boots whit minor and boots whit superior smiting. He put on sup smiting while casting retribution and holy wrath, and then take minor for more hyealth.

dragonkey

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2006

EOE

W/Mo

did soj get nerfed?

dragonkey

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2006

EOE

W/Mo

did soj get nerfed

dragonkey

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2006

EOE

W/Mo

did SOJ get nerfed from night fall updates?

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

spirit bond changed ...wont work ...... 4 or above enimies taking dmg/degen and going below 60% health = scatter

no it doesn't work ><

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

btw dead farming threads are usualy dead for a reason heh (*_*)