When will Price of Faction Drop?

actionjack

actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

W/E

I still have not buy Faction yet (since I think its a bit overprice at $49.99)

When do you think the price will drop to say $39 or $29?
How long should I wait?

sgtclarity

sgtclarity

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

I Can Break These C[uffs]

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It won't.
Guild wars: Prophecies still hasn't.

UndeadRoadkill

UndeadRoadkill

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjack
I think its a bit overprice at $49.99
Yeah.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjack
I still have not buy Faction yet (since I think its a bit overprice at $49.99)

When do you think the price will drop to say $39 or $29?
How long should I wait?
it wont for the simple reason that every account costs them x dollars per year in server/etc costs.

lower the price that much and the account will lose them money over time.

that is why GW isnt in the bargain bin.

if they dont get their price they simply wont sell it.

SirJackassIII

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjack
How long should I wait?
Sorry to say, but until Oink flies...
They're still selling GW for 45-50€, so I doubt they'll be dropping Faction's pirce soon...

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

Best bet is probably to keep looking at online stores, there can be some noticeable differences in prices. I can't say for your part of the world but for e-shops in Europe/UK, original GW prices could vary up to around $10.

Shop around

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtclarity
It won't.
Guild wars: Prophecies still hasn't.
Ahhh...what short memories we have.

As with almost every game, the cost starts out at $49 or so. Then, several weeks after its issuance, the major retailers (Best Buy, EB, etc.) realize that the initial interest in the game is starting to wane.

That is a perfect time for them to use the game as "lure" items to get people into their stores. That's when the sale prices come in. Once the retailers realize that even the "lure" appeal is over...POOF - the prices rise back up to the original asking price.

I know that I bought prophecies 6 weeks after it was issued for $19.99...that's more than half off the normal price. Factions will likely follow the same pattern, for those of you that are patient.

Omni Spirit

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjack
I still have not buy Faction yet (since I think its a bit overprice at $49.99)

When do you think the price will drop to say $39 or $29?
How long should I wait?
Faction is an expansion, not stand alone, I don't know why they charge full price. Trust me, faction is not worth $50.

jules

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

Just ordered by copy from amazon.co.uk for 19.99 with free shipping. I'm sure if you shop around you'll find a discount.

MustumArden

MustumArden

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Durham, NC

Secular Order of Brigands

Me/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omni Spirit
Faction is an expansion, not stand alone, I don't know why they charge full price. Trust me, faction is not worth $50.
Actually Factions is absolutely stand-alone.

Ka El Windstorm

Ka El Windstorm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MustumArden
Actually Factions is absolutely stand-alone.
Factions is like the Sims expansions. They can be played by themselves, but why would you want to? But atleast with the Sims expansions, you don't pay full price. I see Guild Wars like the Sims. Every so often they will add another game that gives a few new skins, new items, but in the end it's just an expansion. No matter what they call it.

actionjack

actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

W/E

My take is that Faction is only "half the game" that Prophcy is.
Thus I am unwilling to pay so much for just extra fashions and clothings.

My guess is that Faction's price will come down faster than Prophcy, just not sure how soon. But for my playing sake, hopefully soon...)

Sunai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ka El Windstorm
Factions is like the Sims expansions. They can be played by themselves, but why would you want to?
So you don't have to pay for something you're not going to play.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ka El Windstorm
But atleast with the Sims expansions, you don't pay full price. I see Guild Wars like the Sims.
You shouldn't. Guild Wars is played exclusively online. Bandwidth, server equipment, and employees to deal with that aren't free. If you can't stand paying for these things, stop playing MMORPG\CORPG games, because every one of them do it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ka El Windstorm
Every so often they will add another game that gives a few new skins, new items,
Not to mention a whole new continent, classes, skills, and tons of quests. But if you see it as only "extra fashions and clothings", that's your choice - don't buy it. That's why you would want to only play certain campaigns.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ka El Windstorm
but in the end it's just an expansion. No matter what they call it.
An expansion expands the current game world's features and content.
A stand-alone game can function by itself, allowing you to play without any other needed software.

Therefore, Guild Wars is both. It doesn't matter if you don't see why someone would only buy one campaign - they still do. I've seen many, and they're playing just fine.

1nfamouz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

InF

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtclarity
It won't.
Guild wars: Prophecies still hasn't.
get your facts straight first scrub,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832197105

Ravex

Ravex

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Dragon Academy

Mo/Me

Ime sure it will eventualy drop but if you play alot it is worth getting unless your willing to wait about 6-8 months minimal over 10$ or 20$ i would buy it now, the sequal can never be better then the original beacause of course guild wars was more fun the first time you played it, there was a much more euphoric feeling, and the need to become more powerful. but the only reason its not as fun as the last one is beacause you already have (probly) a few lvl20 chars, alot of mony, and know hot to play. but personaly i would buy it now judging by how much you are into the forums you would likely get your monnies worth.

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1nfamouz
get your facts straight first scrub,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832197105
Actually, you should get your facts straight also, SOME places have dropped the price, MANY have not. I live in the DFW area, every retailer I've visited that still have copies of CH1 charges the full price for them.

Sunai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1nfamouz
get your facts straight first scrub,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832197105
The list price (or the price suggested by the manufacturer) hasn't changed. Individual retailers aren't bound to a certain price.

actionjack

actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ravex
Ime sure it will eventualy drop but if you play alot it is worth getting unless your willing to wait about 6-8 months minimal over 10$ or 20$ i would buy it now, the sequal can never be better then the original beacause of course guild wars was more fun the first time you played it, there was a much more euphoric feeling, and the need to become more powerful. but the only reason its not as fun as the last one is beacause you already have (probly) a few lvl20 chars, alot of mony, and know hot to play. but personaly i would buy it now judging by how much you are into the forums you would likely get your monnies worth.
haha.. actually, how much I play does not correspond to how much I live on the fourm. Forum is just lot better than the game!

This also bring out some hidden questions....
  • Is Faction worth its price? (if answer yes, go to the next question)
  • Should the Price for Faction drop sooner?
  • Will Lot more people buy it if the price is lonwerd?
  • How many would /sign for a price reduction?
  • Should the future chapter be charging as much as well?

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjack
  • Is Faction worth its price? (if answer yes, go to the next question)
  • Should the Price for Faction drop sooner?
  • Will Lot more people buy it if the price is lonwerd?
  • How many would /sign for a price reduction?
  • Should the future chapter be charging as much as well?
Yes
No
No
Everyone, because we're all cheap
Yes/No; Future chapters that include new professions should be $50. Future chapters without new professions should not, those I would expect for more around $30.

Two new professions is a lot of work, would it be fair if Factions cost less than Prophecies, but you got more? Not really. Just because the continent we play on in Factions is smaller does not mean it should be worth less. Factions has so much more than Prophecies that I feel Prophecies should have been cheaper. You are getting a deal with Factions, if you don't feel that way or can't see why, then I guess thats how you feel.

I can see them coming out with expansions that are not full price, because they said there will be expansions that don't offer new professions. Logically speaking, it would make complete sense for those expansions to be cheaper.

I'd say take your time, play some other games, wait until Factions is a price you agree with and buy it. Its a good game, but if you don't feel its worth that much to you, then don't buy it. Its the same reason I haven't bought Oblivion yet, that game doesn't look like its worth $50 to me, I'll buy it when it reaches $30-40.

Vilaptca

Ka El Windstorm

Ka El Windstorm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunai
So you don't have to pay for something you're not going to play.


You shouldn't. Guild Wars is played exclusively online. Bandwidth, server equipment, and employees to deal with that aren't free. If you can't stand paying for these things, stop playing MMORPG\CORPG games, because every one of them do it.


Not to mention a whole new continent, classes, skills, and tons of quests. But if you see it as only "extra fashions and clothings", that's your choice - don't buy it. That's why you would want to only play certain campaigns.

An expansion expands the current game world's features and content.
A stand-alone game can function by itself, allowing you to play without any other needed software.

Therefore, Guild Wars is both. It doesn't matter if you don't see why someone would only buy one campaign - they still do. I've seen many, and they're playing just fine.
I paid $50 dollars for the game, and because I feel I didn't get a game that is worth $50 , I'll complain.

Guild Wars is not a MMORPG and I'm not playing a MMORPG so I'm not worrying about the monthly fee. I believe, and it is my opinion, that Anet got a little lazy with Factions. Let me explain what I'm talking about.

The pets are terrible. Tiger and White tiger just reskinned called different things. Red and Blue crab. Atleast lets try and be a little creative. Thats 4 of the possible 7 "new" pets.(Crabs{2}, Tigers{2}, Black Moa, Pheonix, Crane) Did I miss a pet?

The cut scenes look like something from The Movies(tm) and the voice acting is nothing short of a bad 1970's dubbing of a martial arts film. I believe they did a fairly nice job with the voice acting in Prophecies, as well as the cutscenes, for the most part.

I really liked the story in Prophecies, surprises around every turn. Where as Factions, is fairly to the point and really not interesting.

Cantha is smaller and also contains fewer missions. The only original/interesting areas you can't access unless you belong to one of the two controlling alliances (I won't go into that). I was really expecting another place similar to UW and FOW. That was only my expectation.

I won't complain about bugs because those are inevitable.

So you are paying $50 for a game that, dare i say took less effort? than Prophecies. Which subsiquently is what Prophecies costs. Are the games equal in content that each has brought to the table? Not by a long shot. Anet already said they won't be adding anymore areas into Canthan like they did with Sorrows Furnace.

These are only my opinions. You may agree or disagree. That is up to you. If I'm wrong, and I am sure i am wrong in a lot of points, please show me the light.

Pevil Lihatuh

Pevil Lihatuh

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Yorkshire, UK

R/Me

It's not likely to drop soon. There will of course be places cheaper than others, but over here in England, the company I work for only just dropped the price of Prophecies to £19.99... that is a LONG time for a pc game to hold its full price. Usually within the first month or two pc games drop by half their value.

BTW its nothing like sims expansions; you HAVE to have original sims to play the expansions, you don't have to have prophecies to play factions Hence its a standalone.

Alias_X

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

If they need to charge $50 for a game, then do it, but at least make sure what you are coming out with is worthy of that title. If you cant make something that should be sold for $50, then DONT.

UndeadRoadkill

UndeadRoadkill

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ka El Windstorm
I believe they did a fairly nice job with the voice acting in Prophecies
No way, the voice-acting in Prophecies was awful!! Maybe I've been spoiled by games with excellent voice-acting, like KOTOR, but GW was really bad!

Overall, I thought the acting was better in Factions (though I guess there was significantly less of it, wasn't there?). As I remember, the only voice that made me groan like I did through the first one was Shiro's.

Sunai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ka El Windstorm
I paid $50 dollars for the game, and because I feel I didn't get a game that is worth $50 , I'll complain.
Hey, I'm not trying to restrict any opinions. All I said was that if it doesn't look like it's worth it, you're free to skip it. Regretting it afterwards is kind of different.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ka El Windstorm
Guild Wars is not a MMORPG
..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunai
MMORPG\CORPG games
Guild Wars is really the first "CORPG" game, so I lumped them together with MMORPG games since they're so similar. Both are played online only, and have to deal with those aforementioned costs, and that's all I was getting at. The only distinguishing aspect is instances, not server-related bills.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjack
I still have not buy Faction yet (since I think its a bit overprice at $49.99)

When do you think the price will drop to say $39 or $29?
How long should I wait?
In Canada Factions sells for $59.99 CAD plus tax. That's 10 dollars more than Chapter 1 cost at the time of original release, even though Factions has way less content and a ton of copy & pasted content from Chapter 1.

I don't see that price lasting too long.

I predict that in Canada Factions will be $39.99 in 3 or 4 months.

Ka El Windstorm

Ka El Windstorm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by UndeadRoadkill
No way, the voice-acting in Prophecies was awful!! Maybe I've been spoiled by games with excellent voice-acting, like KOTOR, but GW was really bad!

Overall, I thought the acting was better in Factions (though I guess there was significantly less of it, wasn't there?). As I remember, the only voice that made me groan like I did through the first one was Shiro's.
Maybe it's just me, but I enjoy voice acting much better in Prophecies. Togo and Shiro were both annoyingly voiced. Togo should of been done by David Caradene. Like Anet could afford him though.

UndeadRoadkill

UndeadRoadkill

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ka El Windstorm
Togo should of been done by David Caradene. Like Anet could afford him though.
Haha, that would be great. I think I was half-expecting his voice a few times.

Gmr Leon

Gmr Leon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

I'm starting to have my doubts on getting Factions for my b-day. Then again I can't think of any other new games that have come out that are really great.

*shrugs*Hearing all of this bad crud about Factions really brings doubt to a person..

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

Try www.pricegrabber.com to find cheap prices. I also routinely check www.techbargains.com for interesting deals on stuff. Ebay is a valid place to shop. Sometimes you can find unopened copies there. I wouldn't buy a used copy, but there's nothing wrong with an unopened one is there? I found a steal on two of the Sims expansions. I'm looking forward to new ways to torture my sims. *muhahahaha*

Jack Black Mack

Jack Black Mack

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

Edge of Extinction [EOE]

N/Mo

Within a few months I'm sure...Prophecies is less now? Unless I'm mistaken I suppose...

CK0

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vilaptca
Y Its the same reason I haven't bought Oblivion yet, that game doesn't look like its worth $50 to me, I'll buy it when it reaches $30-40.
Vilaptca
Man I have to say that game was pretty fun. I definitely put more time into that game than Factions. The quests in that game sure aren't the boring delivery boy missions you can find in Factions. Plus, they have mods out there can definitely extend the gameplay. It's a different type of game, but boy, it is sure something else.

Awesome Nuke

Awesome Nuke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quebec, Canada

Québékers Alliance

Mo/N

All those whining about the price of Factions need to take a step back and think for one second.

If like me you've been playing since April 28 2005, when GW came out, then this applies to you too.

Let's compare this to World of Warcraft, since these 2 games are similar in some ways.

So you buy WoW.. 50$. You got the game, great. Now if you're lucky you got a 30 day free play that came with it. Cool

You buy GW. You can play for as much as you like, WITHOUT paying anything else, ever.

If you want to play WoW for a full year, it costs you 180$ (and I took a smaller monthly fee, it costs actually more than that.)

Then an expansion comes out for both games.. WoW is 35-40$, Factions is 50$. WOW is cheaper, but you still need to pay 15-20$/month to play it.

Lets make a small addition:

GW+Factions for 18 months (until next expansion) = 100-110$ (50+50+taxes..lol)
WOW+Expansion for 18 months = 355$ (50+35+15/month)

Now where is the problem, you tell me.

sir kelm

sir kelm

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

unholy minions

W/Mo

i enjoy factions and $50 is not that much for a game that has no fees for online gaming. Do to this we are saving money when you stop to think about it. Anyone played runescape that stinks and cost $60 for a year. I dont know about the rest of you but i would rather spend the money on factions.

Sirus Dibley

Sirus Dibley

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

England

Me/N

I expect the price to drop a LOT sooner than most here give credit for. Sales have already dropped heavily , and once word get's out how "average" it is you can expect.......

Bargain Bin for £9.99 in 3 months time , mark my words.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirus Dibley
I expect the price to drop a LOT sooner than most here give credit for. Sales have already dropped heavily , and once word get's out how "average" it is you can expect.......

Bargain Bin for £9.99 in 3 months time , mark my words.
GARBAGE

according to the game sales trackers Factions is at the top of their charts.

as for bargain bin that wont happen for the simple fact that every account will have a base yearly COST to Anet/NCSoft .

to give you a road map there is a price point at which a sale will COST them money instead of making them money.

as i said earlier they will sell at a price that allows a profit on each game/chapter or they simply wont sell it.

Pevil Lihatuh

Pevil Lihatuh

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Yorkshire, UK

R/Me

Yup, as Loviatar says, currently Factions is the top-selling pc game (though with GRAW now out I think that will take over). I'll have a look tomorrow when our retail magazine comes in and let you all know what the UK figures and sales ratings for pc games were this last week

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pevil Lihatuh
I'll have a look tomorrow when our retail magazine comes in and let you all know what the UK figures and sales ratings for pc games were this last week
here tis indeed

NUMBER ONE (1)

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.j...r=2006&week=18

Omni Spirit

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
That was because it ended May 6, 1 week after release. People didn't see the real problems with Faction yet. Give it another week and it will drop a few spots.

GranDeWun

GranDeWun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omni Spirit
That was because it ended May 6, 1 week after release. People didn't see the real problems with Faction yet. Give it another week and it will drop a few spots.

I'd take that bet...

rancidgoat

rancidgoat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

[XoO] [AX]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1nfamouz
get your facts straight first scrub,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832197105
nice attitude there buddy,not a good way to start off in the forums.