Dual SB Monk build Fast! Duo UW Fast!

Archaic Nightmare

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Order of the Phoenix Dragons

Mo/N

I met up with a random monk last night with my necro and he suggested we tried this so I duly switched chars to my monk and set off. A quick trip to Drok to kill the trolls and anything else that dared approach then off to the UW. I took SOJ as my elite for the coldfires but only them. This really took away from the monotony of the 55/SS runs i have been on of late and also takes away from ther risk of dying too early. The build works sublimely and was so much fun to play even tho I was the holy smiter. Major props to the folks that created it and thanks for posting for us all to abuse :-D

bobrath

bobrath

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Scouts of Tyria

and the video is.....?

Evil Holy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Portugal

Not Dead [yet]

W/

Guys, nice job developing this build!!

I would like to try it, my IGN is The Evil Holy, pm me when u want.

A Video would also be nice

Exile Of Heaven

Exile Of Heaven

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Netherlands

Farmers Union [CASH]

Mo/

Well the video is curently being verified:S so u have 2 w8 a bit longer.

moko

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

right, ive tried this out now as well, and finally got the clue :P

me and my partner are using the exact same build from the starting post, and can clear the chamber without any problems (including terrorwebs), as well as the coldfires & smites. hooray. we didnt come across to trying out the obsidian behemoths so far, since my partner accepted the quest with the mindblade spectres by mistake. funny enough, we actually killed most of them til they chased after me. 's really fast as well, and the best, it leaves room for error.

certainly a very good build:P gonna try out more today

Niet Nart

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Las Vegas

Running Droks Pay At Snake Dance [TwoK]

W/

id like to say that shing jea armor is also good because its 15 armor and it gives you +energy if you get teh rite 1

Exile Of Heaven

Exile Of Heaven

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Netherlands

Farmers Union [CASH]

Mo/

Well as promissed the Video is live!!:P

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...20427392776288

Niosisw

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Few Fallen Heros [FFH]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Exile Of Heaven
Well as promissed the Video is live!!:P

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...20427392776288
Ok, now, you never gave out the exact atts,

What's your HP in that vid?

Ietwat

Ietwat

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Holland

[JAMM] Justified Ancients of Moo Moo

Mo/

Well he hp is a 480 +41(major vigor) +214 (Vital Blessing) +30 (Sunn's Staff) = 765 hp.

Im not able to see the video dont know why, it looks like Google Video has some problems

Bokocasso

Bokocasso

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/A

Do you really need a video for this? Anything is explained... It took me 1-2mins to get on with the build.

moko

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

i can view it, but it has such an awful quality, its hard to really see anything. <<

and i just tried again today, we got past the obsidian behemoths. 's pretty easy as long as the tanker keeps interrupting healing spring and the holy smiter stays out of range so natures renewal (spelling?) wont affect him/her. tanker has to turn blessed aura off to manage the energy.

my god, we even managed to kill the mindblade spectres. until i once again messed up and aggroed a group that appeared out of the nowhere.

btw, my partner uses shing jae armor with extra health, offhand with +30 health, major vigor and my vital blessing +189.

on a sidenote, i run:

Smiting: 16
Prot: 14
Divine: 9

besides, the video really isnt needed. its exactly like 55/SS, just that you need to cast elemental resistance now and then, and turn holy wrath off to get energy back up to kill the coldfires & terrorwebs.

GL to all that are going to try this out. =p

Hengist Meldanash

Hengist Meldanash

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

UNI

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bokocasso
Do you really need a video for this? Anything is explained... It took me 1-2mins to get on with the build. Have I said somewhere that I need a video, knowing that I've been running a variant of this duo monking build even before the first post of this thread...

But if anyone else need this video, it seems to me obvious that it must be of a better quality, or it is not worth it imo...

Heng

Exile Of Heaven

Exile Of Heaven

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Netherlands

Farmers Union [CASH]

Mo/

Well about the video, its a bit of a messed up one indeed, i know why;S

its becuz the format is not standard 2 Google Video player ill make a new one or reload this old video with the changes ill put on then. hope 2 get 2 it soon

Srry for the bad video:/

Uploading a new one at filefront.com with good quality

Tsai

Tsai

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Majestic Dragons [MaD]

Mo/

I run this build with a friend (mokone infact) and we can blitz the smites aatxes graspign darkness even the mind blades.

But those god damned coldfires take too long to take down. If anyone has the solution could they post the varient build pls

Exile Of Heaven

Exile Of Heaven

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Netherlands

Farmers Union [CASH]

Mo/

Well the solution is 2 take Frenzy in stead of Ele Resistance, but then in the beginning u have 2 tank the squidies together with the aaxtes.

As an advice: Coldfires do not drop Ectos i think , and stay in a mealstom if u got frenzy on u 2 get u healed and reload ure energy wich a 55 has problems with.

Also: uploading a new video atm at File Front

moko

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Exile Of Heaven
Well the solution is 2 take Frenzy in stead of Ele Resistance, but then in the beginning u have 2 tank the squidies together with the aaxtes.

As an advice: Coldfires do not drop Ectos i think , and stay in a mealstom if u got frenzy on u 2 get u healed and reload ure energy wich a 55 has problems with.

Also: uploading a new video atm at File Front you might have misread it, but the problem with the coldfires is NOT to stay alive. its to kill them. however, tsai suggest to take backfire, which i now run, it works wunderful.

Dom: 9
Smite: 15
Prot: 13
Divine: 7

with a good timing of spellbreaker & backfire they go down pretty quick now. not to forget the soj in between.

on a sidenote, they might not drop ectos, but some people like taking them out anyways, just in case it might go something wrong and the holy smiter ends up in danger, in which you best end up fighting, and in order to reach certain group of smites you need to kill them anyways, or at least dodge, which can be a risk.

Anubis_3121

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

[BOBO] The Random Squad

W/Mo

its me Anubis Slayer, and finally they activated my account even though i didnt get to open up the e-mail.

well if anyone wants to run this build with me i can run the holy smiter (still need some thins for the other guy)

well if your interested wsp me in-game. ign's (main ones are): Anubis Slayer and Quick Hide Me.

Mister Muhkuh

Mister Muhkuh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Germany

Ugly Ducklings [ugly]

P/

just tried this with guildie and i got to say its really funny to do holy smiter^^

we made everything except eles.
any1 knows a trick to kill them?
ty

]SK[

]SK[

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Nottingham, UK

GV

W/

Yup any Elementalist (Coldfires/Dryders) just managed to live from casting spells therefore constantly getting healed from Aura of Restoration :/

moko

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

Shield of Judgment will kill them, as i posted above, backfire will make it work faster. the monk with SB uses SB to stop them from casting & healing during sojs and backfires recharge, that should stop them. just remember to cancel holy wrath (maybe the other one as well, the smite one, forgot name :x if that isnt too fast with the energy, but blessed SHOULD do the job, really, it should:P) so you get energy for the spells again.

another edit:

if this didnt help, feel free to whisper me IGN (name over there <<<), say that you are from guru and ill try to help personally. (can explain in german as well =p)

]SK[

]SK[

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Nottingham, UK

GV

W/

SoJ was the one skill we was missing at the time and guessed this is what would take them down. We cleared the Smites and Aatxe's no problem but had to dodge the coldies. Other than that this is a good solid setup and much easier than a 55 to tank. Good work.

Mister Muhkuh

Mister Muhkuh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Germany

Ugly Ducklings [ugly]

P/

yeah ty, id like to do this build, coz it makes it a lot easier for me (i usually did the necro part )

Koning

Koning

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

I've did both the holy smiter and ss necro several times now, but I still find SS necro is much faster and more efficient. holy smiter can maybe outdamage 1 SS (41 or 37 damage), but when a necro puts 2 ss (or even more) on aatxes, SS will do a lot more damage then holy wrath + retribution, not to mention putting other skills on them like recklesss hate, descrate enchants etc.
But the spirit bond monk still is nicer than 55 in tanking melee guys.
Btw, did u guys complete the ice king quest (where terrorwebs spawn in waves of 4*6 )?

wonder warrior

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

UK

DSS

W/E

Hi im having trouble trying to get partners for this i only have a few partners at the moment.

My in game name is the healing hand I like in europe and am on basically all day.
I have being using a solo build of this on the yeti at fort aspen wood but its not great.

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Ive tried this a few times now, however I have difficulty with killing ele's, ie, Im severely limited as to which quests can be done (only done the soul escort thing)...

have u guys worked up a decent way to say, do the servents of grenth quest?


its a nice build, definately easier to use and probably faster on typical smite runs, however 55/ss does have more flexibility with quests (not saying its easy, its hard, yet doable)

Exile Of Heaven

Exile Of Heaven

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Netherlands

Farmers Union [CASH]

Mo/

Well we havent done much quests yet in UW, and with the festival now, were not much in UW........ so for what i know that u can clear most of the UW with our build. Chaos Planes, Twin Serpent Mountains.. and so on.

Escort the Souls = sertainly doable, its even easy.......
Only Wrath of Spirits will not work here........ so Spider runs can only be done by a 55 with ss sv
Ice King Quest = still not tryed....... so we have much work 2 do

]SK[

]SK[

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Nottingham, UK

GV

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Exile Of Heaven
Ice King Quest = still not tryed....... so we have much work 2 do We tried Ice King last night. I had to keep moving though since at one point had at least 10 meteor showers upon me. I lost agro and they went after the other monk. I tried to chase it to make sure i could PS the other monk. New Terrorweb Dryders spawned though and ran off towards the Ice King. Game over.

Killing spell casters is alot slower than an SS. But melee type fighters die quicker. It's nice to be able to tank lots of mobs at once. Clearing the chamber at the second part I try to agro as many melee type mobs at once.

Exile Of Heaven

Exile Of Heaven

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Netherlands

Farmers Union [CASH]

Mo/

Yes!, becuz the aggro u can have is unlimited, u can aggro any number of mobs in the area, this is so great about this build. a 55 build has 2 recast 2 gain hp from DF wich i dont.........

But still indeed ]SK[ u are right about the spellcasters taking longer then ss:S

]SK[

]SK[

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Nottingham, UK

GV

W/

]JK[? :z

osk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/Me

errm, is the video in File Front rdy ?

the tim

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Insanity Prelude

Me/

this is how me and my friend do it (it goes WAY faster than all the other builds especially 55. we did abt 20 full runs in a couple hrs)

Mo/Me
spirit bond
ps
spell breaker
elemental resistance
power drain
essence bond
balthizar spirit
rez

Mo/Me
holy wrath
retribution
life attunement
Vital Blessing
Signet of Judgement
Blessed Sig
Free
Rebirth


with an exp or semi compitent dual sber u can aggro the entire first chamber with the squids and live and get all the smites with two aggros. (u need two to avoid coldfire aggro)

Witte Was

Witte Was

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Left GW

Proud Member of : Glob of Ectospasm [GoE]

W/

LoL Ietwat en Exile, kennen jullie mij nog? van HOK xD. Ik had nog met 1 van julile gepraat over deze build ik ga m binnekort proberen. Great job!

Witte Was / Dave Tawings

Exile Of Heaven

Exile Of Heaven

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Netherlands

Farmers Union [CASH]

Mo/

Ja dave, ik ken je wel:P

Well about the video. im still trying 2 make it upload ok.
Becuz i get errors at Googlevideo, and Filefront:S
So........
For a good replacement in time, im going 2 make a better guide:P

pasha monkey

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Murderous Monkey Mafia[TRON]

W/Mo

first of all, exile is my hero, we too you idea for a dual monk build and did a lot with it (we'll post our results soon) i would like to make a suggestion to this build, however, since the original build had the tank use balth spirit and the smiter with an extra skill, i might suggest that the smiter take balth spirit and the tank take a rez. I would also like to draw attention to someting i noticed while using the tanking build. For one reason or another, if you have less than 610 hp and you have ps and spirit bond up, you'll still get healed, I believe that this is due to a sort-of order of operations thing in which the game calculates the damage for spirit bond before reducing it from ps, I'm sorry if any of these things have already been posted, it's late at night, and this thread has gotten pretty long

lord of shadow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

London

Currently looking

i've been looking to try this for some time, i have 55 experience in uw and was wondering if anyone needed a partener?
i's also be very interested in doing a 3-man run with SS (i could play any)

great concept- great execution

My personal apocalypse

My personal apocalypse

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

in the world

Sole Asylum Fire Eaters [safe]

Mo/Me

I was inspired to make a 3 man FoW farm

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10009708

Turbobusa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

By the Luxon Scavenger

The Mentalists [THPK]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by pasha monkey
i might suggest that the smiter take balth spirit and the tank take a rez. I can understand the reasons you would the smitter to take balths... but the tank, a rez to rez himself? lol!!

My personal apocalypse

My personal apocalypse

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

in the world

Sole Asylum Fire Eaters [safe]

Mo/Me

with an extra mesmer to shut down the dual monks my build can run forgemaster