Do you think the hollow breaker supply run is meant to be?

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Cos frankly I'm really quite thankful for that quest

In just another 5 hours or so of grind over the weekend and I will finally get that colourful 15K Luxon that I really liked

But of course I certainly don't want Anet to hit me with a ban stick saying I exploited the game! So do you guys honestly think it is legit?

Gonzo

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

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I think it is, they will always need suplies and you are just there to help them. The Kurzick side has a simular repeatable quest.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

It just felt too easy.. I can get enough materials for a 15K in like 7 hours doing this.

Although it feels really grindy.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gonzo
I think it is, they will always need suplies and you are just there to help them. The Kurzick side has a simular repeatable quest.
Yeah its meant to be repeatable. Its one way of farming faction. I like to farm slower by doing Fort Aspenwood, as its much more fun then running some boring supply quest.

Selerious

Selerious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sunshine Coast, Australia

Veneratio Tutela

R/Me

I do it if im after a piece of Jadeite or two, gets too boring otherwise

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Selerious
I do it if im after a piece of Jadeite or two, gets too boring otherwise
It really is, but I can actually read forums while doing it, so win win

Selerious

Selerious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sunshine Coast, Australia

Veneratio Tutela

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by generik
It really is, but I can actually read forums while doing it, so win win
True, True.

Quintanium

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

I tried to run the Kurzick supply run many times by soloing and I've never made it.

Dag namit.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Quintanium
I tried to run the Kurzick supply run many times by soloing and I've never made it.

Dag namit.
When I use my Ranger I simply Pack loads of blocking/running skills. But its the Luxon one I do, also avoiding mobs is also a good idea

samifly

samifly

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Girl Power [GP]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
When I use my Ranger I simply Pack loads of blocking/running skills. But its the Luxon one I do, also avoiding mobs is also a good idea
Kurzick one is harder i think... the repeatable of choice for Kurzicks is the "Duel of the Houses", or at least used to be.

Tuesg

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

hex

R/Me

That’s the problem with these quests I was doing the one on the luxon side about a 2 minute run for 400 faction over and over again, and then I stopped it cause I realised Anet might think I'm a bot.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by samifly
Kurzick one is harder i think... the repeatable of choice for Kurzicks is the "Duel of the Houses", or at least used to be.
Both sides have multiple repeatable quests.

Duel used to be the fastest Kurzich one to solo farm faction at (at ~3mins a run).

They nerfed the quest because it was too easy compared to the other faction farm quests. Now to finish it effectively everytime, you have to join a FF group of trappers in Braur Academy (theres like 10 of them forming at any given time).

But Kurzich also has a Supply running quest thats repeatable. Though I beleive its harder I heard. Theres enemies that knock you down, and Snare/Barbed traps in the area. I dont know if Luxon one has enemies like that in the way.

N8DOGG

N8DOGG

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

here

Modified Soul Society [SOUL]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuesg
That’s the problem with these quests I was doing the one on the luxon side about a 2 minute run for 400 faction over and over again, and then I stopped it cause I realised Anet might think I'm a bot.

Where does this mission start from?

Jagflame

Jagflame

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Illinois

Yours, maybe? Drop me a line.

N/Me

Quote:
Theres enemies that knock you down, and Snare/Barbed traps in the area. I dont know if Luxon one has enemies like that in the way.
There's a few Oni's that will occasionally knock you down on the Luxon one but they aren't that big of a deal.

Peewee

Peewee

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

London, England

I Uprising I [RAGE]

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man, those quests suck. I think its there to give griping pve players a chance to get decent faction for luxon/kurzick, rather than doing alliance battles, but when its as easy as running from point A to point B, it plain sucks. Worse still its one of the main things people do to farm faction for alliance standing.

Personally i think the ability to do repeatable quests for faction is deliberate, but i dont think ANET intended it to be farmed/grinded so people can get there 15k armour asap. After all, their motto is really skill>grind. I personally shall get my faction from actually playing and winning alliance battles, even if it takes me longer, and i have to deal with idle players or rage-quitters. For me the sense of acheivment of getting the armour the 'right' way, is greater than actually having the armour.

To answer your question Generik, i dont think u will be penalised for exploiting the game, plenty of people are farming that quest anyway, but i cant say that i, or ANET approve. Be a man and get ur faction the right way :P

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peewee
To answer your question Generik, i dont think u will be penalised for exploiting the game, plenty of people are farming that quest anyway, but i cant say that i, or ANET approve. Be a man and get ur faction the right way :P
Well I certainly tried doing some of those alliance missions, but most of the time all I get is just a message that nobody on the opposing force joined the game.. what, the Kurzicks are chickening out from the Luxons?

mqstout

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Pittsburgh

Ugh, grind. I don't know how anyone can do it.

alen

alen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Slovenia

Mo/

Dont worry its the same on the Kurzick side :-)

Njall

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Fellowship Of The Grim

W/R

Quote:
Personally i think the ability to do repeatable quests for faction is deliberate, but i dont think ANET intended it to be farmed/grinded so people can get there 15k armour asap. After all, their motto is really skill>grind.
Well.. maybe they can give us some more challenging quests to earn faction points : let's say...same difficulty than Defend the Forge and 1k points of reward ?

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

Meh AB's are much more fun...all you gotta do is cap stuff... there's no PvP in there if you're not looking for it.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
Meh AB's are much more fun...all you gotta do is cap stuff... there's no PvP in there if you're not looking for it.
What's AB?

Swinging Fists

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peewee
Personally i think the ability to do repeatable quests for faction is deliberate, but i dont think ANET intended it to be farmed/grinded so people can get there 15k armour asap. After all, their motto is really skill>grind. I personally shall get my faction from actually playing and winning alliance battles, even if it takes me longer, and i have to deal with idle players or rage-quitters. For me the sense of acheivment of getting the armour the 'right' way, is greater than actually having the armour.
The 'right' way ? How does one say there is one right way? There are simply several alternative ways, one of which is the supplies quest.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PeeWee
To answer your question Generik, i dont think u will be penalised for exploiting the game, plenty of people are farming that quest anyway, but i cant say that i, or ANET approve. Be a man and get ur faction the right way :P
Again, 'the right way'. Does anybody really think that ANet didn't anticipate this would be run for faction ? How can ANet not approve of people repeatedly doing a repeatable quest ? They are the ones that set it up to be repeatable. Duh. The right way, the wrong way - where's the waaaaaambulance ?

Sphinx2k

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Ruling
Duel used to be the fastest Kurzich one to solo farm faction at (at ~3mins a run).

They nerfed the quest because it was too easy compared to the other faction farm quests. Now to finish it effectively everytime, you have to join a FF group of trappers in Braur Academy (theres like 10 of them forming at any given time).
not true i timed myself ealier and i got it down to 2:30s and i only use henchies. How i do it is i use my MM grab a bunch of henchies and the one grp beside the quest i kill them off giving me 5 minons walk to the quest by time i thrown Death nova on all my minons there already attacking me, smash the taste of death skill killing all my minons and triggering all them death novas i throw up which pretty much kills just about most of them then if any left putrid explosen and there all dead easy 400 kuz faction

samifly

samifly

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Girl Power [GP]

Mo/Me

Sorry.. I meant the kurzick supplies quest is harder than the luxon one.

StrongBow

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2005

next to my neighbour!

W/E

Luxon is like >Get the quest A, 123 > Reach destination B ~!

Hilarious, stupid, (I can't find the most horrible word for laziness)

Get over it guys, or if you are not happy about it, join the "Scam" as we are nowadays adressed by "Some".

Feng Leung

Feng Leung

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

[Yarr] We Plunder You Now

W/

The supply quest imo will become abused over time, but still, it's a grind fest.

pegasux

pegasux

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Mexico < PUKE >

Elite Rogues Inc. [ER]

the supply quest is a huge grind but at least there are always 1-4 chest to open along the way.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The funny thing I noticed when I got into the Kurzick's area is that Amber generally sells for 2.5K and above, while Jade goes for around 1.9K to 2K.

Kurzick towns seem to be more populated too. Low supply high demand for amber vs high supply low demand for jade?

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Quintanium
I tried to run the Kurzick supply run many times by soloing and I've never made it.

Dag namit.
I only reached Brauer Academy the day before they increased the dificulty of the Duelist quest,so it takes too long for me to hench that one with my warrior. I switched to the Kurzick supply run, and can complete this one in 4 minutes without fail(9 out of 10, tbh).I run with a full party of hench, and us them as remote-control aggro-bombs(TM)by calling groups that target me.

The hard parts of this run are the Luxon ambush patrols that pop up along the route, I memorized their location, and simply avoid their spawn(the last one can't be avoided, just run by the Kurzicks guarding the Res Shrine, and they will fight them off for you). I just run a Drok's W/Mo build for skills/attributes. No, you don't need Mending.

Sientir

Sientir

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

At DigiPen.

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

It is interesting to see how the difference in difficulty affects the faction cost of the capitals, last i saw Cavalon was around 4million more faction required to obtain than Heltzer.