The fruits of NCSoft's purchase of ArenaNet are finally coming to...

Sanji

Sanji

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

NCSoft sure has a thing for popping out MMOs.

Let's hope that Aion's engine really is different than Guild Wars, at least when it comes to the pathfinding and crazy invisible safety rails.

UndeadRoadkill

UndeadRoadkill

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

I've wanted a sci-fi version of GW for quite a while now.

Markaedw

Markaedw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

Some of the other games games look pretty cool. I don't mind a PnP as long as I get to be unique. As miuch as I like GW, I am getting tired of seeing twins.

The name is interersting, from Greek Aion ir Aeon: end of an age or time period. Most often used in the Bible to mean "the end of the world".

Some of tht animations look almost FF ish

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

The "in game" shot looks like NC Soft dipped DIRECTLY into the GW texture and shader archives.

Sendai

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

they may have borrowed some of gw the interface for the preview but the engine seems to have a Z-Axis.

Digital Bath

Digital Bath

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Lords of Blood

W/Mo

When is this supposed to be released because the WoW expansion is slated to come out later this year, and I am willing to wager A LOT of people who are playing other MMO's are gonna quit and move to WoW. Lvl cap increase, 2 new races, and prolly other info that is out there but isn't completly confirmed yet. Gotta be careful when a company releases games now a days.

SisterMercy

SisterMercy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sisters of Mercy

Quote:
Originally Posted by kaya
A link would be nice... Is there a one for this information? I'd like to read about it a little.
Alex is with NCsoft. There's your source. Everything else is technically proprietary information.

Pillz_veritas

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fun Loving Gamers

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterDinadan
You, sir, are a GENIUS! Although I might get sick of the whole post-nuclear environment...
I kind of got enough of it in post-searing Ascalon ^.^

Anyways, I'd definatly prefer a new original sci-fi MMO. We've got Star Wars Galaxies and The Matrix Online, which I have no interest in just because they are capitalizing on existing trademarks... I don't want a game that emulates a movie! I want a game that is a game! Then again, Fallout is a game. But I still prefer something new and original

Oh. My. God. FALLOUT WOULD TOTALY OWN! I would *so* play it.

=HT=Ingram

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

good PR Alex. lol hehehe

In all good consience it prob is a completly different engine, but boy it does have a ton of similarities huh guys? we can see the walls for the paint job...

Okae

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

LA.. not Lions Arch

R/Me

I got to play a little bit of AION at e3 and I have to say I was pretty impressed. Off the bat it caught my eye because the gui and some texturing was similar to GW, heck it was set-up right next to the Factions terminals. At a second glance and getting some hands on w/ it, it's definitely on a higher level. Don't get me wrong, GW is no slouch but AION felt a little more refined. IE. Little things like how the character pulls their weapons out of their sheaths.. the way the numbers pop up when you're attacking things.. the attack effects, etc.. The best way I can describe it is that it's a very clean game with wicked attention to detail.

I wish I could have sat there and created a char. from scratch and work my way up but alot of people were taking over the terminals. As a matter of fact I recall one woman was sitting there playing and she seemed really into the game... an hour and a half goes by and I walk back by the booth and she's still in the same spot. That says alot for a game where there's literally hundreds of other options.

Also the talk of the town seemed to be a game by Webzen called Huxley. It's a MMOFPS. The terminals were so crowded I didn't get a chance to give it a shot except for watching people playing it from 5 feet away.

Studio Ghibli

Studio Ghibli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Gaelic Storm

http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images/pc/a/i/aionpc004.jpg

The woman in this screenshot reminds me of one of the Envoys.

Hum.

Interesting-looking game, regardless.

I think Exteel looks cooler, though. ;D

Ziil

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterDinadan
You, sir, are a GENIUS! Although I might get sick of the whole post-nuclear environment...
I kind of got enough of it in post-searing Ascalon ^.^

Anyways, I'd definatly prefer a new original sci-fi MMO. We've got Star Wars Galaxies and The Matrix Online, which I have no interest in just because they are capitalizing on existing trademarks... I don't want a game that emulates a movie! I want a game that is a game! Then again, Fallout is a game. But I still prefer something new and original
Something like this http://www.fallenearth.com/ ? or this http://www.webzengames.com/Game/Huxley/default.asp ?

Phades

Phades

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Well it was going to happen sooner or later. Makes you wonder if Guild Wars is nothing more but a massive test bed

Still its the lack of monthly fees which keeps me interested in playing overall, that and the gameplay. Have no real interest in another MMO, I already pay for Planetside.
Wow, you still pay for planetside? Been well over a year since i gave that one up.

If this other game was being developed by ANET as well, that is when i would begin to be more concerned though.

Saelfaer

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Belgium

The Blitzers Guild

come on guys look at this, this is no guild wars engine
look at those lighting, and shaders, ...
that looks more like lineage2 to me than it looks like guildwars...

btw alex already mentioned its a totally new developped engine specially for this game, so why would you still say its a copy of the guild wars engine....

Artisan

Artisan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Sunset City

Ark Royal [ARK]

A/R

Because a lot of the people here have been conditioned into assuming that anyone on the buisness end of online gaming is lying and trying to screw you over.

Alias_X

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

I will not be getting this. If it charges a monthly fee, I am just going to move on to WoW. I not only feel cheated, but also angry. There aren't many MMORPG's with a large amount of players, so making another one is a big deal.

World of Warcraft, here I come!
(after seeing this I won't buy another NCsoft product ever again. I was a little dissapointed with Factions, and now with games being spat out by them, what was Guild Wars? A test?)

Kylie Minon

Kylie Minon

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Argentina

Acolitos del Tango [AR]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saelfaer
come on guys look at this, this is no guild wars engine
look at those lighting, and shaders, ...
that looks more like lineage2 to me than it looks like guildwars...

btw alex already mentioned its a totally new developped engine specially for this game, so why would you still say its a copy of the guild wars engine....

Remember that Lineage 3 is due next year and Lineage 2 Chronicle 5 by September 2006. It was said that Lineage 3 will use UT2007 engine.

Laibeus Lord

Laibeus Lord

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Philippines

Holy Order of the Light [HOL / Holy Order]

R/N

Aion is not using the GW Engine.
Now someone mentioned they're using GW engine for maybe 3 games?

I hope Tabula Rasa isn't one of those "3 games" coz Tabula Rasa is definitely using its own engine.

Aeon221

Aeon221

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

[TEW]

N/

Damnit. They steal my name, and now they are stealing my game.

I'ma open up a can of nerf on their asses. (and I've used this name since Starcraft back in the 90s, so booyah!)

Imaginos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram
Yea NCSoft is using Anets engine from GW for atleast 3 upcoming titles I have seen thus far. Show how versital the engine actually is. Can do SCI FI too with little effort... And As you can see can implament Many skills at same time like WoW if they so chose...
One small point....a genera is engine independent. You could take the old Neverwinter Nights game and reskin the whole thing to look like Star Trek if you wanted to, script the quests to have a Trek theme and BAM you've got a Trek game using the NWN engine.

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

That does look suspiciously like Guild Wars lol and the description about lead attack/offhand etc. sounds just like the new Assassin skill useage...

Akaraxle

Akaraxle

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Italy

E/

And so the new products started dipping into GW...

Gmr Leon

Gmr Leon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sendai
i may be wrong but i found some screenies. Can someone confirm that this is the same game ?

http://www.jeuxvideo.com/screenshots...4_000_news.htm
Look at that last pic in the link,does that look like a deformed Krytan or have I been playing to much lately?

Xerose

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
From a technical standpoint, AION looks to bring some nice visuals to the table. Using the Crytek Sandbox 1.0 Engine (Far Cry) the game will include a heat shimmering effect near the ground (based upon the locale and climate). Weapons are nicely detailed, and there appear to be normal maps. For an MMO, there is a fair amount of groundcover and lush greenery (taking advantage of Sandbox's ability to handle large numbers of objects). Materials have been given their own characteristics, meaning that if you walk thru terrain like marshland or shallow water, your character will slow down accordingly. NCsoft has assured us that system specs will be low, so all users can enjoy the lush visuals and effects.
http://pc.ign.com/articles/708/708762p1.html

ignis

ignis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Norway

Rus Corp

Mo/

not to shit on anyone's riff, but it looks like Aion will be released in asia only

Fyre Brand

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Shadowlight Order [SoR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ignis
not to shit on anyone's riff, but it looks like Aion will be released in asia only
What makes you say that because the English NC site doesn't seem to indicate that.

I would take a look at this game especially if "borrowed" any cool ideas from Legend of The Dragoons.

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

I doubt this is the exact same engine as Guild Wars.

Reasons.
-You can jump
-You can climb
-You can fly

Artisan

Artisan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Sunset City

Ark Royal [ARK]

A/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alias_X
I will not be getting this. If it charges a monthly fee, I am just going to move on to WoW. I not only feel cheated, but also angry. There aren't many MMORPG's with a large amount of players, so making another one is a big deal.

World of Warcraft, here I come!
(after seeing this I won't buy another NCsoft product ever again. I was a little dissapointed with Factions, and now with games being spat out by them, what was Guild Wars? A test?)
I find it pretty pathetic that people here will quit Guild Wars because the company that makes it has decided to make another game in addition to Guild Wars. Are you angry because they're not devoting all their company resources to one game?

Miakoda

Miakoda

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Me/

Usually people do not like it because..

A team gets moved to new development..
B team takes over previous development..
Orignal product takes a hit in content as B team is smaller than A team and less likely to know the code inside out as well as A team does and therefore more bugs and slower fixes.

Not saying it's the case here.. but that's the usual state of play.

AhuraMazda

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Whats the gameplay like? Game mechanics? Player interaction? World interaction?

I would be tempted to try this game, it certainly looks pretty enough, and a more MMORPG syle gameplay to GW is definatly appealing.

But if I am going to be paying per month to play this game it better be something special.

Community, player group interaction like Eve, or enviroment/world interaction like Wurm or Roma Victor is the kind of innovation you need to not only get players, but to survive over a fair period of time. Others behemoths like WoW will just crush your game due to the fact their communities are larger, and people are looking for communities within MMORPGS if the gameplay is non-existant.

So what is the deal here? Whats the actual GAME like when played? What can be done in it? These are the real questions.

GW apparently was developed by a team who left Blizzard, or so a rumour I read goes, if they are now developing an MMORPG using concepts from GW, a more polished and stylish version of WoW is a possibility, and to be honest imo is a certain failure in the long run.

Developers need to start exploiting the possibilities within persisant mega multiplayer worlds, rather than exploiting players desires for these things. In short more WoW clones / more of the same is not only to be boycotted but condemned furiously.

Lepton CFd

Lepton CFd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Pantheon of Shadows [dei]

Mo/Me

sci-fi GW clone ftw

Yojinj

Yojinj

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Germany

None at the moment

N/Mo

What a pay-to-play needs in order to make me pay again:
-Mature combat system that gives group players an advantage (hate solo online)
-real housing
-real crafting jobs
-great interaction with the game world
-muchos content, pay-to-repeat is not an option

Games i played suiting this description:
Ultima Online - It comes very close, Roleplay Freeshards can make of the game so much more then it is, thanks emulators!
Star Wars Galaxy - The engine came close to UO in sheer posibilitys what to do in the game. That was before they invented the word "starwarsy".

Games i played and left because it was fast dull:
WoW
CoH/CoV
DDO
EvE

MMORPG seem to degrade, giving players less and less while costing same or more.

@aion
I like the flying.. looks cute.

capblueberry

capblueberry

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Lexington, SC

Grenths Mercenaries[DEAD]

it looks identical to Guild wars...s

clarianaeneas

clarianaeneas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

R/E

"Enjoy an interactive and cinematic game experience like no other, powered by the cutting-edge Crytek® game engine" -- straight from their website. There ya go people, it's not the GW engine, even if the screenshot looks very much like it.

I must say the graphics are pretty cool, and the whole flying bit is pretty awesome. Too bad I'm such a GW fanboy :P and I won't pay for a game again and again and again after I buy it.

LamerFlamer

LamerFlamer

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

The Order of The Green Flame

Quote:
Originally Posted by ignis
not to shit on anyone's riff, but it looks like Aion will be released in asia only
"Expect to see AION released worldwide in 2007." Straight off the website. I am definetly going to get this game, I don't care if it looks like some clones of GW or WoW, I played WoW, quit because it got repetetive. Same with DAoC. This game looks innovative to me, and I seriously am going to try to get in the beta.

m0gden

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Arkangels

Why would they go to the trouble of licensing an engine previously used and developed for FarCry but turn around and make the game so stunningly close to that of Guild Wars? So rather than, you know, develop their own engine they will purchase one and dip into the honeypot of GW textures and interface design?

Colour me not impressed.

Fate

Fate

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

New England, USA

Shadow Knights [SK]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yojinj
What a pay-to-play needs in order to make me pay again:
-Mature combat system that gives group players an advantage (hate solo online)
-real housing
-real crafting jobs
-great interaction with the game world
-muchos content, pay-to-repeat is not an option

Games i played suiting this description:
Ultima Online - It comes very close, Roleplay Freeshards can make of the game so much more then it is, thanks emulators!
Star Wars Galaxy - The engine came close to UO in sheer posibilitys what to do in the game. That was before they invented the word "starwarsy".

Games i played and left because it was fast dull:
WoW
CoH/CoV
DDO
EvE

MMORPG seem to degrade, giving players less and less while costing same or more.

@aion
I like the flying.. looks cute.
TOTALLY QUOTED FOR TRUTH.

I'd say check out Second Life. It's like multiplayer first person TheSims.

Naxohs Seralna

Naxohs Seralna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Norway

House of the Silver Phoenix (HSP)

E/R

Gotta agree with Yojinj's list over what an MMO should feature.

I really loved SWG. Paying the monthly fee was no problem for me, because I'm a die-hard SW fan, and I like computer games. Loved the possibilities with professions, character creation, player housing etc. Then the combat upgrade hit...I'm still really pissed about that one. *shakes fist @ SOE*

Anyways, @ Aion: At first sight, it looked like a genuine GW clone. However, there's supposed to be a z-axis in this game, and when you get a closer look, you see how much better the graphics are. Might consider getting it!

Corth

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sentinels of Eternal Souls

N/

Some of you don't seem to understand that NCSoft is a publisher, they don't make the games, they only make them available in stores.

As for the 'rumor' that gw was created by people from blizzard, that's not really a rumor, that's truth, check the arena.net website - Mike O'Brien, Patrick Wyatt and Jeff Strain were top dogs at Blizz, till the company decided to make WoW.

I don't see blizzard growing much now, seeing as how all the top talent went off to other companys. The only thing they have now (in my eyes) is the film department. Don't get me wrong, blizzard has alot of money and I don't see them fading away, but I don't see them coming out with another starcraft (story wise that is).

Sai of Winter

Sai of Winter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

[ale]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alias_X
I will not be getting this. If it charges a monthly fee, I am just going to move on to WoW. I not only feel cheated, but also angry. There aren't many MMORPG's with a large amount of players, so making another one is a big deal.

World of Warcraft, here I come!
(after seeing this I won't buy another NCsoft product ever again. I was a little dissapointed with Factions, and now with games being spat out by them, what was Guild Wars? A test?)
Wait, do you mean you're going to stop playing Guild Wars because NCsoft is adding another MMO along with their other titles?

I don't think they are going to stop making GW. Aion is just another game they are adding to their line-up. No need to get angered by this.