Petition: Canthan Titles for Tyrian Characters

ultimastrike

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Hello, all. I have been in correspondance with Anet about Tyrian characters attaining Canthan Protector, or Canthan Grandmaster Cartographer. This is what they had to say.

"Thank you for contacting the Guild Wars Support team on this. Since Tyrian characters are not able to enter some areas of Cantha, those characters will not be able to receive the full titles for Canthan Cartographer (100%) nor the Canthan Protector (13/13). This is working as designed.

We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. However, if you feel that a change should be made to this design, we would like to encourage you to consider posting this as a suggestion on one of many of the Guild Wars Fansite message boards. A compiled list can be found here (http://www.guildwars.com/community/fansites/). By posting on one of these message boards, other players can comment on your ideas, concerns, and suggestions, and Development Team members are able to catch up on what the community wants to see in Guild Wars. Fansite forums make it easy and efficient for us to learn from those playing the game."

I personally do not see the functional reason behind not allowing characters from Tyria or Cantha to visit some of their counterparts' areas. I mean, yeah, they say that only Canthan natives can get training at the monastery, but beyond that WHY would something like this be? If someone wants to take their level 20 and do some boring training area stuff so that they can get a few extra titles, why not let them?

My personal advice: upon completion of the game, Minister Cho is so impressed with you that he allows you to visit his estate, etc etc.

Anyway, this thread is intended to allow Anet to gauge how many people disagree with this. If it becomes popular, I would be indebted to the various moderators for Sticky status. Remember: It can't hurt to show support, and it might even help.

Extinguisher Nex

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

/signed

Dark Suoon

Dark Suoon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Organization of Dawn [DAWN]

W/D

/signed

The truth itself

The truth itself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

First Degree

Mo/

Should canthan characters then be able to travel back in time, to see pre-searing?

Dragou Du Porzan

Dragou Du Porzan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Mo/

/signed in triplicate

As you say, there is absolutely no compelling reason to prohibit people who have paid for both games to access 100% of the content with their characters (regardless of where those characters were "born"). I see this as limitation for the sake of limitation.

Practically speaking, I suspect the real motivation behind this restriction is to force players working towards the "Kind of a Big Deal" title to focus on maxing some of the gold sink title tracks (Drunkard, anyone?). If ANet really wants to get money out of our vaults and back into the system, how about offering players services that might entice them to part with their gold (e.g. the ability to customize your character's facial features, add jewelry, etc.)?

Tarun

Tarun

Technician's Corner Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2006

The TARDIS

http://www.lunarsoft.net/ http://forums.lunarsoft.net/

/signed! I agree 100% that we should be able to go everywhere and do everything in Ch2 with our pre-existing characters.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragou Du Porzan
Practically speaking, I suspect the real motivation behind this restriction is to force players working towards the "Kind of a Big Deal" title to focus on maxing some of the gold sink title tracks (Drunkard, anyone?). If ANet really wants to get money out of our vaults and back into the system, how about offering players services that might entice them to part with their gold (e.g. the ability to customize your character's facial features, add jewelry, etc.)?
That sort of money sink sounds really good. I'd actually change the color of my char's hair, cause when I made it I was on a different PC/monitor.

Accessories would be nice too, especially with armor class and modifiers. Health/Str/etc necklace/amulet/ankh. One ring for each hand that offers a nice bonus too.

RinkXing

RinkXing

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

United Kingdom

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

N/

/Signed

I would like the ability to get the Canthan Grandmaster Cartographer at least.

MDeshame

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The truth itself
Should canthan characters then be able to travel back in time, to see pre-searing?
Yes, but only if they can be Level 20 with 15k armor, full storage access, a plethora of scams, and uber weapons. If they meet this requirement, then all drops should be 100k in gold + 25 ectos + 10 black dye, but only for the level 20, the lower levels get nothing.

I'm all about that!

Dougal Kronik

Dougal Kronik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ontario, Canada

Glengarry Fencibles

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The truth itself
Should canthan characters then be able to travel back in time, to see pre-searing?
Why? There is nothing in Pre-Searing that you need in Post Searing. Especially for the Titles.

Tyrian characters are not travelling back in time. If a Tyrian can get the Shing Jea Monastery then there is no time travel involved!

Canthan characters cannot go back 2 years to Pre-Sear because Tyrian characters cannot go back in time!

/signed

Allow Tyrian characters to complete all missions and explore all of the map. And allow Canthan characters the same!

jummeth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

London

Diary of a Madman [SiKK]

Should be a differnet title. Since Canthan born have no access to pre-LA missions.

zinthar

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

daggers of nh

E/

/signed
All for one and one for all!
If the game and characters are deemed continuous and not as totally seperate games ( in which case why should we purchase upgrades ). Then it would seem that all missions should be available to all players, and with them the right to earn the titles thus set forth for all characters in this game. or is this game just another scam to get us to part with our bucks claiming that it is continuous, and that the characters are continuous in the game world, when infact we are purchasing a totally new game with each installment with limited compatability to the game(s) that we purchased previously.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

dude......

They patched it months ago so now you can do all the missions even as a foreigner. Grats on bumping a 5 month old thread that basically has already been implimented.....

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

please close this

SaucE

SaucE

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

OgreSlayingKnife.com

[MEEP] Biscuit of Dewm

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I was wondering why someone posted this suggestion lol. Cause I have my 100% of Cantha and 13/13 missions on my Tyrian Warrior so its already possible.

Emik

Emik

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Belgium

[FaRM] Farm For The Win

N/

Close the thread

Slainster

Slainster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

^^ had me confussed too

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ultimastrike
Hello, all. I have been in correspondance with Anet about Tyrian characters attaining Canthan Protector, or Canthan Grandmaster Cartographer. This is what they had to say.

"Thank you for contacting the Guild Wars Support team on this. Since Tyrian characters are not able to enter some areas of Cantha, those characters will not be able to receive the full titles for Canthan Cartographer (100%) nor the Canthan Protector (13/13). This is working as designed.

We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. However, if you feel that a change should be made to this design, we would like to encourage you to consider posting this as a suggestion on one of many of the Guild Wars Fansite message boards. A compiled list can be found here (http://www.guildwars.com/community/fansites/). By posting on one of these message boards, other players can comment on your ideas, concerns, and suggestions, and Development Team members are able to catch up on what the community wants to see in Guild Wars. Fansite forums make it easy and efficient for us to learn from those playing the game."

I personally do not see the functional reason behind not allowing characters from Tyria or Cantha to visit some of their counterparts' areas. I mean, yeah, they say that only Canthan natives can get training at the monastery, but beyond that WHY would something like this be? If someone wants to take their level 20 and do some boring training area stuff so that they can get a few extra titles, why not let them?

My personal advice: upon completion of the game, Minister Cho is so impressed with you that he allows you to visit his estate, etc etc.

Anyway, this thread is intended to allow Anet to gauge how many people disagree with this. If it becomes popular, I would be indebted to the various moderators for Sticky status. Remember: It can't hurt to show support, and it might even help.
I have to admit to being a little bit confused to this post.

You were told by Anet that Tyrian characters CANNOT get canthan 100% exploration or protector?

In which case explain this.....



....My Tyrian elemental!

I can never understand why people believe this myth that tyrians cannot get both those titles in cantha.

All I can say is that the evidence is infront of you to say otherwise!

Dougal Kronik

Dougal Kronik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ontario, Canada

Glengarry Fencibles

R/

Look at the dates before you post!!!

Then maybe check to see if it has been changed before you make yourself look like an idiot to the entire community.

Please close this dead and obsolete thread.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik
Look at the dates before you post!!!

Then maybe check to see if it has been changed before you make yourself look like an idiot to the entire community.

Please close this dead and obsolete thread.
Christ Dougal. Calm down!

Sorry I didnt check the date.

Dougal Kronik

Dougal Kronik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ontario, Canada

Glengarry Fencibles

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Not you freekedoutfish, zinthar rezzed a 5 month old thread. Your post was only 6 minutes later than the previous post.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik
Not you freekedoutfish, zinthar rezzed a 5 month old thread. Your post was only 6 minutes later than the previous post.
Ah right, sorry. In which case I shall shush now!

NO ONE ELSE POST!

mr_groovy

mr_groovy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

No Inherent Effect [NiE]

I just couldn't resist . I have prot and grandmaster explorer of both cantha & tyria on my war. So yes it was fixed ages ago.

Please close thread , and no more replies.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
I have to admit to being a little bit confused to this post.

You were told by Anet that Tyrian characters CANNOT get canthan 100% exploration or protector?

In which case explain this.....



....My Tyrian elemental!

I can never understand why people believe this myth that tyrians cannot get both those titles in cantha.

All I can say is that the evidence is infront of you to say otherwise!
You don't have even ONE fame? OMG! that's a record, speacially when I see you have 4 perfect titles already.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by NeHoMaR
You don't have even ONE fame? OMG! that's a record, speacially when I see you have 4 perfect titles already.
*shrug* I dont like PvP!

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

If you're going to rez a thread, don't do it to something thats already been fixed.

Closed.