Ritualist Vengeful Farming

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobun King
Just a heads up, I've been using this build to completely solo the queen scarab outside of Augury Rock, and the two griffon bosses near her. Replace physical resistance with mantra of resolve.
heh nice work

Dez Of The Light

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Fairly Harmless

Mo/

Nice Kobun King! I can remember taking in a monk, a mm and a warrior to farm the queen once.. This greatly improves the effectiveness indeed!

Also, I used the build in Fort Aspenwood.. SO FUNNY! U should try it, all those assasins and warriors that come and beat themselves to death to your Vengeful weapons... It's horrible how stupid people can be. Not really something that works in a team, but there were quite some kurzicks (im luxon) that lolled with me on the stupid guys. Also, i'll try farming the yeti's now and report back if it's any good Bye

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

Thanks for the title change ^^

Dez Of The Light

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Fairly Harmless

Mo/

Yeti's arent too farmable.. Not any drops as of yet, and quite some of them have Healing Signet - which the build does not counter. Most of the time you're running to stay alive from the healing sig yetis.

Link T-berry

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

DC

R/Mo

Thanks for the build, its awesome. Raises eyebrows when I use it while getting ran through Tyria.


Edit- by the way works AWESOME on trolls outside Droks.

Aua Pusten

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

United Guilds

Rt/Me

sooo cool build! Big thx for sharing...

antoninus

antoninus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Evil Death Bane [EDB]

Mo/

a previous post here said you can get sympathetic's visage from the trainer at lion's arch but when i got to him it's not there.. it says at guildwiki that SV can be obtained from trainers at fisherman's, amnoon (and ember light camp-.-) did they "transfer" the skill to another trainer? sigh i wana try this build but i cant find a run :c

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

well if you unlock it first at a preist of balthazar using faction it will become available to buy at lions arch

Francis Crawford

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ditto if you unlock it by buying it for another character.

I've only done that with one skill -- Verata's Sacrifice (before the MM changes).

I've also bought a few skills so as to avoid the skill quests (e.g., Death Nova).

Finally, if a skill is only available from late-game skill trainers, you may be able to cap it earlier. That's how I first got Aftershock. But that said, I don't recall a lot of monsters using SV ...

cuzzle

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

Game Update

Vengeful weapon is getting a buff!
Vengeful Weapon: increased the amount of Health stolen when this skill is triggered to 15..60 Health.

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

thats cool ! ...not so happy about auspicious parry

Francis Crawford

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

I'm getting very tempted to substitute Vengeful Weapon into the Slivernewal build (for Stone Daggers, I imagine) and see what happens.

I can't offhand think of anybody this would be good against except trolls, avicara, and minotaurs (and minotaurs only if you don't want to keep going and take down some Dune Burrowers). But it might speed up the kills there and, better, minimize the chance of not getting off a full five spells when Ether Renewal comes up. In fact, 6 spells becomes theoretically possible due to the cast time, which makes the idea very appealing ...

antoninus

antoninus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Evil Death Bane [EDB]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahnel
well if you unlock it first at a preist of balthazar using faction it will become available to buy at lions arch ZOMG you're absolutely right! i feel so silly.. thanks haha

Francis Crawford

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis Crawford
I'm getting very tempted to substitute Vengeful Weapon into the Slivernewal build (for Stone Daggers, I imagine) and see what happens.

I can't offhand think of anybody this would be good against except trolls, avicara, and minotaurs (and minotaurs only if you don't want to keep going and take down some Dune Burrowers). But it might speed up the kills there and, better, minimize the chance of not getting off a full five spells when Ether Renewal comes up. In fact, 6 spells becomes theoretically possible due to the cast time, which makes the idea very appealing ... Arggh. It's not working. Can't get 5 spells off, let alone 6. I checked. I'm not getting 5 off with the standard build either. This is mainly with my 19% enchantment extender, sometimes with the 20%.

And that's even when I don't have any AoE in there, so it has nothing to do with a longer aftercast for PBAoE than for other spells (which I strongly think is a myth).

Bap

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Virtuosic

E/Me

Just back from hols, nice to see you made a vid of the stonereaper run, i declare this build legendary, if i delcare something it must be true ;D

Still and awesome build from the first day i tried it, awesome work mate.

Thanks for the shout out ;D

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

hey good to see you again bap, glad to see people like the guide. I thought it would get a few looks over and just vanish becuase of the newness (is that a word ? ) of the ritulist.

Rit Gin

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

I have been wanting to kill the queen. To at least say I had done it. Guildies hadnt been interested lately. So I tried it with this build. 3rd try out finally got her. She dropped nice too. Thanks

Kobun King

Kobun King

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

This build is very versatile.


Even with the nerf he's still farmable, as long as you take care of half of the jade brotherhood/am fah guys yourself without reaggroing Xuekao. He can kill a fair amount of them by himself. I've also gotten jadeite shards more than once from doing this run.


You can run by all the mobs if you just want to get to Lou (while holding the ashes), or you can farm them since they do drop purple and gold armor fairly often. Might wanna replace one of the visage spells for power drain or some other interrupt to interrupt Lou's shadow refuge since you don't need both to kill him.


Use illusion of haste to get past the mob(s) that spawn infront of Chkkr. Reapply it fast if it gets stripped and continue running to Chkkr until your aggro circle is just right infront of him and the mob(s) chasing you should break. Use conjure phantasm to weaken his troll unguent when he's near death. It's probably better to use an interrupt over conjure phantasm for his troll unguent, I just don't have one at the moment.

There's a few other bosses I think can be done, possibly with the rt/r version, but I haven't gotten those bosses down quite yet.

Edit: Here's one of the other bosses I was trying to get down, and have finally done successfully.

This run has the biggest luck factor of any of the ones I've posted. After you leave Harvest temple, just die to the Shiro'Ken since there's no way you can kill them with this build. As soon as you spawn at the shrine, cast arcane echo and run towards the creeping carp. As soon as they start moving towards you, cast vengeful was khanhei before they strip your arcane echo. If you fail this part, you're doomed and you'll have to start over again. Make sure no more than 1 shrine guard gets involved in this fight, or else it's going to be harder to get your DP down. After this fight, you could use the blessing from the statue there (if you have favor) or the Priest to make this run easier, but I prefer to spend as little money as possible when making money.

You'll need to lose as much DP as possible before facing Merki, no more than -8%/-10% or otherwise he's impossible to beat.

When you're facing mobs, dont bother using physical resistance stance because they'll end it almost as soon as you use it. Just like with the creeping carp, use your arcane echo and then vengeful was khanhei right as soon as they start moving towards you/start casting since they will also strip your arcane echo. Try to sneak one of the visage spells in while you're dealing with a mob, but not both or else you'll have too much exhaustion to work with. Sneak in 1 or 2 vengeful weapons as well. This is mostly to cause the mob to waste their interrupts on an unimportant spell (ancestor/sympathetic visage, vengeful weapon), rather than vengeful was khanhei. If your arcane echo'ed vengeful was khanhei gets interrupted, there's a good chance you're doomed.

Just take one group at a time, because anymore than that and I garauntee you'll die, adding more to your DP. You can afford to die once, leaving you with around -25% DP, but you'll have to eliminate more mobs to get your DP low again. After you eliminate most or all the small mobs around, there's a big mob of around 6 that you cannot beat easily, but that's okay since you can ignore them because they don't move. Go to the right of this large mob to the wooden pier there. Three assassins will drop down so handle them before going after Merki. They have a lot of interrupts too, so deal with them accordingly. Sometimes there's a ritualist there alone, deal with her alone before facing Merki, because Merki must also be faced alone.

When you finally reach Merki, pull him with your staff, and as soon as he starts running towards you, use physical resistance while you're casting arcane echo. Make sure physical resistance doesn't come after you have cast arcane echo, or else it'll end it and you'll be doomed once again. When you cast vengeful was khanhei, you want it to begin as soon as he hits you. Immediately cast one of your visage spells, because if Merki builds enough adrinaline to use dismember, you can not beat him, and he will kill you! You'll need to have one of your visage spells up at all times, but whatever you do, never overlap them since you'll need to stretch 3 visage spells to beat Merki. You'll need to have channeling up for most of the battle as well. Use vengeful weapon sparingly, since you'll need to have enough energy left when you cast the second and third visage spell along with vengeful was khanhei before he can use dismember. Only use soothing memory in an emergency since you need to conserve as much energy as possible for visage spells.

With luck, you'll have made it to him and beat him. One of the possible issues with this run is which faction has control of Harvest Temple. If your faction doesn't have control of it, you might not spawn at the desired shrine, which would more than likely ruin this run for you. I've only attempted this while the kurzicks have control (I'm kurzick).

I almost forgot to mention, if He kills you while he's almost dead, there's still a chance you can beat him if you run back to him fast enough before he's regenerated more than 3/5 of his health.

scarbringer

scarbringer

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Illinois

URUK

R/Me

hey what weapon are u using in the vermin video?

Yuo Can Do It!

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Rt/Me

What about farming Oni (if you can farm them) with this build?

Kobun King

Kobun King

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

You can farm oni, but as far as I know, there isn't a lot of places where its easy to find or get to them.

Yuo Can Do It!

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Rt/Me

I also tried soloing queen. I got killed a few times, went back to augury and tried again. It's not necessarily hard, it's just...different. It just takes a LONG time to kill the queen once everything else is dead.

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by scarbringer
hey what weapon are u using in the vermin video? In the videos i was using the preorder spiritbinder staff, but now i use a fiery flame spitter axe (still looking for a 20% enchanting mod) and a 20/20 restoration focus from the weapons crafter at vasburg armoy.

Grafalcon Darkeyes

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Canada

19AG

Mo/

Hey All I Can Say Is GOOD JOB!!! You made a Farming Char Who Is not a 55 monk, You Inspired me to make a Ritualist
My Question is( If i have Missed The Anwser) do you have to buy the armour which has the extra bonus to armour??
ty and keep up the replies guys its very informative for nublets like me

Yuo Can Do It!

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grafalcon Darkeyes
Hey All I Can Say Is GOOD JOB!!! You made a Farming Char Who Is not a 55 monk, You Inspired me to make a Ritualist
My Question is( If i have Missed The Anwser) do you have to buy the armour which has the extra bonus to armour??
ty and keep up the replies guys its very informative for nublets like me not necessarily. It might help, but it's not needed. I, personally, have the +HP armor, and it works fine. It should work fine with any armor, as long as it's max, and you have the correct headpiece and rune.

voodoo viictor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

old school legion

Rt/Me

were can i get physical resistance??

voodoo viictor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

old school legion

Rt/Me

wher can i phsyical resistance??

Rin

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

this build is pretty nice in action....

but can it be modified to be used in UW??? Guess I'll have to do some research.

yomama6969

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

soldiers of heaven

W/

ok u can 55 everthorn there's a post on it
add weapon of warding instead of a second visage for MUCH more flexibility in where u can farm :P
and...oooou u can farm merki....brb :P

voodoo viictor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

old school legion

Rt/Me

were can i find phsyical resistance?

Riceboi

Riceboi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by voodoo viictor
were can i find phsyical resistance? I think it is in GW:Prophecies only.

TheGuildWarsPenguin

TheGuildWarsPenguin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Los Angeles, California

Picnic Pioneers

E/

I can try this build because i spent like an hour in Rhea crater getting to the end of Rheas crater to cap it.

ThunderStruck

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

The Arctic Marauders [TAM]

I know this build is very versatile, but what are the types of enemies/mobs or zones that DON'T work really at all?

Wim

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

AB

enemies that don't do phsical damage, enemies that can heal themselves,...
Vengeful will only work on enemies that hit you and steal little bits of life every time they hit you.

Kobun King

Kobun King

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Just to clarify, you can kill some non physical/self healing mobs, but the build works best with physical ones. Some examples of of this are dragon moss, am fah healers, star lights, kraken spawn, and outcast ritualists just to name a few. Any with heavy elemental damage, like jade brotherhood mages, or good self healing, like yetis, aren't doable though.

mega_jamie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

UK

Warlords of Ruin

A/Mo

Looks nice, gonna take this build tommorow and see how far out of the armoury I cna get, since Everthorn's Chakrams are selling well, and i dont rememebr any specific healers along the way, but I dont play dmg Rit or Mes, so if this only owrks against phys damage it may not be feasable, i'll let you know.

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

Didnt I give you idea for using Vengeful was Khanei fort farming. When i was in the same guild, I was talkign about using that skill as a warrior for spider farming, then you said "Thats a good idea, It will work better if you echo it"..

SO WHERES MY LOVE!

RebelHero

RebelHero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Shaolin Monastery [Heal]

Mo/

You can solo oni in Rheas Crater with this build...

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...057886&page=28

Ecksor

Ecksor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

kkthnxbai

Knights And Heroes [Beer]

my Ritualist is on Sunjiang District right now. I'm almost there!