Defiant Was Xinrae - what does that description actually mean?

The description of what this spell does seems a little unclear! To wit:

"Elite Spell. Hold Xinrae’s ashes for up to [ 5 - 10 ] seconds. While you hold her ashes, enemy Spells that the caster and the caster’s allies use against you are disabled for an additional [ 5 - 17 ] seconds."

My interpretation at the moment is that this disables spells cast against you FOR ALL OPPONENTS. So if you were facing two people (Adam and Bertha) both with energy burn, say, and Adam used it on you, his copy would be disabled for 20+17 seconds (20s being the natural recharge), and Bertha's copy would be disabled for 17 seconds, even though she didn't cast. Is this correct? Because it's pretty jazzy if it is

thats what it sounds like to me.

makes sense... but yeah its a weird description

It works exactly as described, it's just an odd skill.

Tested it using a guild scrimmage. One member of the opposing team had Defiant was Xinrae, and I brought Mind Burn and the Mage Henchmen who also had Mind Burn.

The Mage Henchmen used Mind Burn on the opponent and it disabled Mind Burn off of my skill bar. I even have a FRAPS video, though it's a bit too large to host yet, and google video really drops the quality down too much for my taste.


In my opinion, it's not a bad skill, per se, but it's reliant on your foe packing multiple copies of the same spell AND using it on the ashes holder.

25 energy and an elite slot is a bit of a stretch for a 'what-if' situation.

Quote: Originally Posted by Mercury Angel

It reads enemy spells. That means all spells used against you will be disabled for X amount of seconds more. So like you tested if some1 hits you with Mindburn all Mindburns are disabled for X seconds more. But this applies to all and any spells being used against you. Am I correct, or am I misunderstanding this discription?

This spell (ash?) obliges opponents to treat you as if you had a Spell Breaker on you.

Right now, many players ignore the anti-caster effects and will continue casting on you, disabling slowly their own skillbar along with their teammates' ones... but eventually people will get used to it and then : it'll be as if you had a SB.

I find it a bit expensive, though. I guess ANet will lower its cost to 15.

wow, this could really own dual E-Surge teams!

goodbye bloodspike necros - lol
i can just see entire skillbars disabled
too bad there isnt a physical attack equivalent

But the character itself would have to be enough of a threat to warrat a team pickign them out for a spike. If it starts becoming common, you'll just see teams not casting on the Ritualist if they see the skill being used.

It's definitely got potential, but technically so do Backfire and Spiteful Spirit, their downside is they rely on the fact that the other team is going to mess up and cats through backfire, or attack through SS, or continue to cast on the Ritualist.

Eventually I think Defiant Was Xinrae will end up like one of those. You might get someone who casts through a backfire once, or takes a few swings with Frenzy and SS up. Likewise you might get a few spells disabled because you have Defiant Was Xinrae up, but it's not going to be a powerhouse, just something that stops players from targeting you for the time being.

I think this

The difference is that you have no idea what ashes the Ritualist has; whether it's Difiant was Xinrae or Cruel was Daoshen etc etc.

If a bloodspike targets the Rit, and one casts just a fraction early, then the whole spike is disabled if it works anything like Blackout/other skill disabling things.

Quote: Originally Posted by Dave_Spanners

Until it let non-target AoE effect (hitting by firestorm that wasn't targeted for you) by this too, I believe this is nearly unusable.