What title will you respect the most and why?

Swinging Fists

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

After what I saw with Cavalon this weekend, anyone with one of the titles for contributing faction to their guild will have my utmost respect and will always be welcome in any PUG I am ever in.

What do you look for in PUGs ? Team players. And that is exactly what the titles in the "Friend of the Luxon/Kurzick" lines are about. The lowest title in this line requires 250k donated to their guild, which could have been worth about 500k in jade or amber. Very selfless people and always welcome.

Also, some of the other titles have various ways of earning them without much skill, such as survivor, drunkard, etc. I've seen pictures of survivors with like 16 minutes game played. It's obviously a "work around" attained by a group helping them get the title. While quite an achievement, and probably something to be proud of, it doesn't show a player's ability, character, etc. which are what I look for in the players I respect the most.

How about your thoughts ?

ubrikkean

ubrikkean

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

E/

Well... Canthan/Tyrian Protector is nice to have, it doesn't show that much skill but it takes some time and shows a decent amount of experience. I agree about the "Friend Of" line because it shows some dedication to a group, though the entire group can be a bit selfish at times.

Guinevere Ac

Guinevere Ac

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Milano

as for pve experience, maxed elite hunter title is the best one imho.
friend of is good too. shows how u prefer playing the game and have fun then farming money for yourself

jonnybegood

jonnybegood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

huh?

The Final Exodus[FX]

drunken, not only is it long but it takes some cash aswell.

Wrath Of Dragons

Wrath Of Dragons

Burninate Stuff

Join Date: Aug 2005

New Mexico

E/Mo

most respected:
"kinda a big deal"
5 titles maxed out gets this one

Monkey Blonde

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Siege Turtles (ST)

Mo/

I respect the selflessness associated with the "Friend of" line as well. To all of the people who spend so much of their time farming faction for their respective alliances: /hats off. (I am in TC and very proud of that, but I respect all who contribute so much to their guilds, alliances, or causes.

I wish there was a "Ferry Boat Captain" title so I could have that.

Thanks for all the kind words from those of you in Cavalon and the Deep this weekend.

Mysterial

Mysterial

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Servants of Fortuna

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guinevere Ac
as for pve experience, maxed elite hunter title is the best one imho.
I'd have to agree; anyone willing to put up with the random boss spawns and associated insanity to getting the elites in tyria deserves respect.

The Real Roy Keane

The Real Roy Keane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dublin, Ireland

Well, that 'Champion' title for top guilds is the most prestigious one I guess. Emporer's Hero is nothing to be sniffed at either.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

Drunken, it shows that they have played the game for fun.

Gmr Leon

Gmr Leon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Tyrian Cartographer I think it's called. They dedicated their time into exploring every nook and cranny of GW and are skilled enough to get through the areas dealing with the tons of annoying monsters.

MadLep

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by GmrLeon
Tyrian Cartographer I think it's called. They dedicated their time into exploring every nook and cranny of GW and are skilled enough to get through the areas dealing with the tons of annoying monsters.
I would disagree with that. Cartographer only means that they have spent hours dragging henches around filling in every spec they missed the first time through. I know this because I have that title, and that is how I did it.

Not saying that it's necessarily a bad title, just that it doesn't tell you anything about how they work in a team - because most of the time they weren't in a team.

Lexar

Lexar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Organised Spam

W/

Grandmaster cartographer is like a million times harder to get than simply settle for 90%. You'd have to do all the missions and bonusses and even all the spots nobody cares about to unlock everything also inside the missions, so it rates higher than protector of tyria for me to have that one.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

I'd go with the drunk title

imortal

imortal

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

None and looking.

E/Me

Anyone with the Champion title can color me impressed, but when it comes to PvE I'd say Elite Skill hunter.

Kurald Galain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Fishermans Haven

[DVDF]

Mo/

I would say an honestly earned and maxed survivor title would get my respect , but as the OP said there are workarounds for those unfortunately. Friend of .... certainly impresses me too. Skill Hunter dunno most of the elites can be capped with henchies doesn't really tell me if team player or not.
Drunkard definately tells me that guy/gal played for the fun of it
The PvP titles : i'd say the gladiator title or whichever it is that drags you into random arenas certainly impresses me most as i couldn't stand 5 minutes in RA tbh

VGJustice

VGJustice

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tyria, cappin' ur bosses

Boston Guild [BG]

R/W

Prophecies character: Survivor or Elite Skill Hunter
Factions character: Elite Skill Hunter or Protector of Cantha

Kurald Galain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Fishermans Haven

[DVDF]

Mo/

Prophecies dunno if they even can get survivor cause according to Wiki your deathcount has to show 0


Edit : Ofc newly created chars CAN get it was just saying old ones (should have been a bit more precise)

Oberon Shadowking

Oberon Shadowking

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

A Midsummer Night (AMND)

W/Mo

I have to say "Kinda Big Deal" is my most respected, especially if the 5 maxed out were like:

Friend of Luxon/Kurzick
Champion
Emperor's Hero
Tyrian/Canthan Cartographer
Elite Skill Hunter

That would be one sick crazy GW person!

samifly

samifly

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Girl Power [GP]

Mo/Me

The protector titles show abilty to team work. which is good, if your using titles to pick people in your pug. which I think is a bad idea. the one I will most respect is Grandmaster Cartographer

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

I'd be especially impressed with a maxed Skill Hunter title, considering that nobody has found where Assassin's Promise can be capped yet. Aside from that, Champion would get my respect more than anything else.

Phoenix Avenger

Phoenix Avenger

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Wisconsin

Eternal Knights

E/Mo

I respect the ones that cant be farmed (such as the protector ones and elite skill hunter). Being able to spend alot of money or farm a title doesnt show that you understand the game/work hard it it. It just means you can repeat the same area over and over again.

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

I think the Gladiator ones should be for Random Arena only. I would be most impressed with that one.

shadowfell

shadowfell

hamonite anur ruk

Join Date: Jan 2006

Echovald Forest

[PhD] Teh Academy

Me/A

"friend of" title, because it should show dedication to your alliance. But, I'm proud of my survivor title, because i succeeded at pve without death, and.... didn't bail out once!

Vermilion

Vermilion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

NY

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sereng Amaranth
I think the Gladiator ones should be for Random Arena only. I would be most impressed with that one.
Thats what I thought it was..wrong as usual. >.<

But does that just include TA then? Because RA is much easier...of course I don't do TA so..thats largely unfounded. (2/25 with RA. )

Anyway..as was said a couple times, the skill hunter title definatly deserves some respect. I could never be bothered just to take the time to do that, not even including the skill factor.

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

R/

I wouldn't be that impressed by a skill hunter title, since it's only about capping elites, and you know that many players looking for this title cap elites without purchasing the normal skills for the secondaries. ANET should have made a title based on the number of skills you have, elite or not, IMO, not on elites only.

Drunkard is my favorite - just because i'm proud to have it - well also and mainly because it shows the dude is crazy enough to spend more than 200k on ale and still can play with a psychedelic screen. Incorrigible Ale Hound is a must.

Otherwise, I'm of course impressed by the high PvP titles, which doesnt mean I pick someone with them because of them for a PvE group.

I Was Banned

I Was Banned

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

West Coast - California

The Swift Assassins [DarK]

W/

It's hard to get all elites because it's not by account right? So why would my Warrior want Thunderclap?

Artisan

Artisan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Sunset City

Ark Royal [ARK]

A/R

As someone working on Grandmaster Cartographer, I'm more and more impressed with them for their perseverance, as I've experienced some of it firsthand.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Mad
I wouldn't be that impressed by a skill hunter title, since it's only about capping elites, and you know that many players looking for this title cap elites without purchasing the normal skills for the secondaries. ANET should have made a title based on the number of skills you have, elite or not, IMO, not on elites only.
That would be interesting, however by making it elites only it doesn't force you to farm millions of experience to buy every skill for every profession. Although personally, I am getting them all.

The "Friend of" at first I thought would take a lot of dedication and some time to get. But since it can be farmed with 2 skills alone, albeit it would take a while, it's depressing to think that some might get it that way. The same with Wisdom Track and Treasure Hunter, which are based on how wealthy you are basically. Rare skinned equipment and FoW armour already showed how much gold you had.

Cartographer... well, no way to exploit it really since anyone can change secondaries and grab some running skills. Although I wish it were possible for a character born from either chapter to get it.

Drunkard... no comment.

The protector's of, especially Cantha even though there are fewer missions. You can easily do every bonus in Chapter 1 with ease (maybe not Ring of Fire) with the henchmen. Although I personally haven't tried for Master in all of the Cantha missions, I imagine getting it with just henchmen would be near impossible. As such, it would require some level of teamwork to complete that task. Protector of Cantha would definately be up there for me.

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

R/

Oh yes, getting all the elites is great: I recognize that. I just want to point at the fact that for most of the players who have this title, they didnt cap the elite because, maybe, one day, they could have the use of them. They capped them to get the title.

I've been buying skill on my main char as much as I could. Still, I'm far away from the elite capping title (which is not a big deal at all). But I have hundreds of skills unlocked. I unlocked them to use them, maybe. But I've capped the divine favor elites and my ranger for exemple because I wanted to be done with all the monks skills. Of course, it was pointless: I'll never use them (note: it was even before anet implant titles). What I mean is that this title could be a reward for the players who have purchased/aquired many skill in order to try no builds etc. But as it's only about capping elites atm, that's encouraging for most of the players, IMO, to do aquire skills with no purpose.

It's not against players seeking this title. Doing this with no purpose other than getting a title is good too (see the drunkard title for ex), and also some players will try to get all the elites just because they have unlocked all the normal skills, and for them I clap loudly.

I just mean that having this title doesn't mean the dude is a "skill expert" as it could be.

EDIT - However, yeah Racthoh, you have a point.

Mandy Memory

Mandy Memory

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

W/

Third tier gladiator. I dont care who you are...that takes skill. The rest are just farming (even fame...you could have gotten it 1 fame at a time....but gladiator requires 10 win streaks.)

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

The Rank-based Titles are by far the hardest and most time-consuming to achieve, therefore they will always command the most respect from good players.

Engel the Fallen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/Me

Gladiator title is what I hold the highest respect for. After that Rank. Most of the PvE titles mean nothing to me otherwise as they are gold based, or can be done easily with a good group. Well ok mapping is not one, but that does not mean someone is a good player just because they can run around the map.

felinette

felinette

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Girl Power [GP]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurald Galain
Prophecies dunno if they even can get survivor cause according to Wiki your deathcount has to show 0
Yeah, new ones can get it. My necro is working on it. However, it's not a title I'd really respect. Someone who died once the whole game, but died during that initial period, won't have the title. Someone who died 2000 times after getting their title will. So survivor is pretty meaningless. Add to that all those people who'll be run through quests and missions so they don't risk their own behinds, and it becomes a complete joke.

The skill hunter title would be a tough one--I guess you'ld have to keep changing your secondary to cap that many, something I'll never do.

Protector of Tyria is a good one, though again, people can be run through every mission or bonus (meaning either literally run, or just stay at the beginning while everyone else fights). I have no respect for the Protector of Cantha title because timed bonuses don't belong in PvE. It just means someone can rush. Who cares?

I respect the cartographer titles.

Francis Crawford

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

If you have capped 90 elites, you've won a LOT of PvE fights against tough competition.

Doing it with henchies or whatever would actually be a greater proof of skill than doing it in groups of real players.

I'm tempted to go for that one, actually, although I only have 27-28 each current elites and spare skill points at the moment, and am shifting my focus to another character anyway.

On the other hand, that lack of skill points reflects having done only one Canthan mission, and done it with only one sword, so there are a lot of "quick" skill points still available at least in theory ... especially since capping an elite now gets you a lot of skill itself.

Divinus Stella

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

Definately the pvp rank titles, apart from when they are on a W/R.
The Drunkard title also demands respect.

TheGuildWarsPenguin

TheGuildWarsPenguin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Los Angeles, California

Picnic Pioneers

E/

Never the rank ones. I respect everything except rank and the lower level ranks of the map titles.

Stabber

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Plane of Oblivion

Sigilum Sanguis [keep]

Me/W

I respect the ones who have the modesty to turn all titles off. But among the ones that do show titles, I respect Gladiator and higher, Conquering Hero and higher, and the Protector titles. I would respect Champion, but I think achieving that sets you on a different level of the game, far above mere players, where titles no longer have any meaning.

BrotherGilburt

BrotherGilburt

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

USA

Mo/

Definatly skill hunter because it can be the most time consumeing and cost the most gold. 1k a skill is not cheap.

Brother Gilburt

morphium

morphium

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Random Arenas int dis 1

W/

2nd Drunkard level title. 7 days of Drunkness, ~2million gold.

I would be impressed with this title because I feel sorry for peple with no life.

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Avenger
I respect the ones that cant be farmed (such as the protector ones and elite skill hunter). Being able to spend alot of money or farm a title doesnt show that you understand the game/work hard it it. It just means you can repeat the same area over and over again.
Dunno.. elite skill hunter shows dedication, but... if you think doing the same mission 6x requires skill... so be it Currently working on that title, and remembering that doing the same mission/area again and again and again equates to as much fun as farming.

As for not having all skills but rather all elites, once you have all elites you can always buy the other skills to run whatever build. Why did I have 89 elites in Tyria previous to the title? I was bored and went on a cappin spree. Was only after the title update that I realised I had one missing. Things like unyielding and spell breaker are pretty much worthless on anything but a monk, so.. the only reason to cap it with something other than a monk would be to unlock it for pvp purposes.

The title I respect the most is the 100% explored title of either Cantha or Tyria. It shows dedication, even with henchies, it's still more dedication than I have.