Star Burst

This is a spell that is touch range, not a touch skill.

It suffer from everything a spell would have, such as spell breaker. While this is also a touch range skill that is weaker than flame burst, longer recharge, occupying elite spot.

This thing right now, is pure crap.

imagine starburst spike
anyone nearyby is spiked too, if the team is bunched up, the whole entire team is dead
u would probably have to be a E/A for shadow stepping to target then spike

anyway i think starburst deserved a elite spot because of its area effect is quite large, however its still not the largest, i think it needs a buff to "in the area" rather then "nearby"

Quote: Originally Posted by snikerz

Not sure if Starburst has the standard .75 second aftercast or the PbAoE 1.75, but that could make a little difference. (You can't tell anymore these days. Anet set Conjure Nightmare to have an aftercast of 1.75 rather than .75, and it's certainly not PbAoE)

You can't generally 'spam' PbAoE spells, because of their long aftercasts. If you could chain 2 decent ones together, it might not make for a bad combo.

But honestly? It seems to me like a lot of the new elites are only barely, if at all, passable as elites. You have spells like Seeping Wound that, if they were NOT elite, nobody would cry 'broken'.

Star burst has no after cast.

This meaning, you can run (or teleport) up to someone, touch them, then flame burst and doo 200+ dmg i nabout a second. It deserves an elite spot for this reason. and also, it only costs 5 energy, a 10 energy difference. This also meaning that you can cast it to finish someone and their team with only 5 energy.

Quote: Originally Posted by Vermilion Okeanos

It has the .75 sec delay, while arcane echo-able. (why would you want to A.echo it? Just use double dragon)

It doesn't help at all when double dragon is superior in every way.

Star burst may be justified by being more pressure based attack. But, telling a soft target to do close range pressure is a really dumb proposition.

Edit: To above post, that's because boss monsters and high level monsters both do far superior dmg with star burst than human players.

I think the thing that makes this skill viable is that it only costs 5 energy and doesn't have exhaustion. Even if you could managed to hit a group of bunched up enemies, it would only cost 10 energy. As far as elementalist skills go, most of the heavy hitters seem to cause exhaustion. This one doesn't and as such can be used much more frequently. Even warriors can afford to run this; not that they'd want to, but they could. When all of the other highly damaging elementalist skills are so expensive, I don't think that this unusually cheap one should be overlooked so quickly.

I have been using double dragon more than I have used Starburst. Starburst has an added 5 energy loss per target hit I believe which is not worth it to me.

In the Fort Aspen battles I tend to suprise combatants by using close-ranged fire attacks. They see me wanding them and think they are going to be Meteor Stormed or Air spiked. I wait till some of them group up and then I run in and cast Inferno, Double Dragon, and Flame Burst and watch them scatter. Then they realize I am a threat. I have killed more Assasins than I can count by doing this. I also throw in Rodgorts Invocation to set them a blaze. As a lark I took in Tehai's Heat and was suprised by how many people don't run out of its AoE LOL. Monks trying to heal their party especially suprised me by standing in it taking dmg. Then I run up to them and really lay on the "heat"!

Starburst has an extra 5 energy lost if it hits more than one target, and not 5 energy per target as far as I understand... that would make it cost 10 energy whether you hit 2 enemies or 20, and without exhaustion I can easily see how that could be some vicious spike damage if enough people were using it. Even warriors running this would have enough energy to use it as soon as it recharges. While it may not provide as much damage per use, the fact that you can keep using it without having to worry about using up all of your energy on it and without causing exhaustion makes it definitely a skill that I could see using.

Correct, Starburst will never cost more than 10 energy no matter how many targets are hit. It's 5e for one target, 10e for more than one.

Quote: Originally Posted by CoopaTroopa

Start Burst can't simple be avoided by stepping away, like flame burst can. I think it deserves an elite spot, quite a nice skill most of the time. I think it should be changed to Skill. rather than Spell. though.

Quote: Originally Posted by Vermilion Okeanos

Star Burst is the best Elementalist elite in Factions (although that's admittedly not saying a whole lot). It has almost all the benefits of Flame Burst, can't miss, has no PBAoE aftercast (so has great synergy with Flame Burst) and costs less energy (and even less if you fail to hit a second target). Since PBAoE builds have good synergy with Channeling, it's also possibly the only Elementalist damage elite you can run and still have energy to cast frequently enough to keep up the damage for an extended period of time. I would however, for what little it's actually worth, agree that there's no reason it doesn't do Flame Burst's extra 8 damage.

Double Dragon, on the other hand, has the lowest AoE, won't hit anyone intelligent with the second strike, does subpar damage, has an insane recharge, and causes Exhaustion for no good reason. It's good against the AI and that's about it. (Note that the skill description here is wrong; it should read: "All adjacent foes are struck for 119 fire damage. After 2 seconds, all adjacent foes are struck for 119 fire damage." I.e, the first hit is not delayed and the second is 2 seconds delayed, not 1.)

The problem with star burst is that it doesn't help killing anyone.

Double dragon can reach a high potential, while star burst at most is energy saving. I would rather make my build able to pull off the double dragon than to use star burst.

Star burst is good at what others could have done better, which made it a pointless elite. I would rather throw out a bunch a spells and use ether prodigy etc to manage my energy, than using 1 single spell that doesn't do enough damage to manage my energy.

So as I said before, this is like a pressure spell that one keep using. The 10 sec recharge can get to 7 sec with serpent quickness, but that still don't help. An ele need to get in and get out, and fast. Staying there and put pressure is asking to be kill with the little robe they wear.

While warrior is much better off with other line of ele skill than fire. Warrior should use their 2ndary to support their dmg, not use 2ndary to deal it.

i think its yet another useless element elite

Im with Mysterial too many people here are under-rating this skill so lets get a few things straight.

Its not a spike skill at all its touch range its better suited in a pressure build.

It does cause you to lose 5 energy if you hit more than 1 target but it still caps at 10 so its no problem with proper management.

It doesnt cause exhaustion which is nice if your using other skill combo's like bed of coals + meteor.

Double dragon costs 15 energy for a non garanteed amount of damage and causes exhaustion while star burst costs 10 at most and doest cause any exhaustion.

In a 5 minute period double dragon can do 2380 damage to one person,
In the same 5 minute period star burst does 3570 damage to one person. This also is assuming someone is stupid enough to stand in double dragon range for 2 seconds and since star burst is touch they cant avoid that damage.

Its without doubt one of the best ele elites in factions and 50 or so Hall wins with this in our build seem to back that up.

Starburst is awesome in Heroes Ascent.

Starburst -> Flame Burst -> Inferno.

A used flameburst ele combo. High raw damage in a short space of time.

however you cant have dual attunements, however, i think the fact that you have 3 close range fire skills instead of 2, much better than dual attunements.

Quote: Originally Posted by TheZens