Elonas Reach Meets the Monk Armada

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Sax Dakota
Academy Page
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Right now, 3:24 am est, I'm in Elona's Reach....and looking at around 50+ Mo/W in every single district....what in the world is going on.

They all are moving exactly the same...saying nothing...kinda creepy lol
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TimberOwl
Frost Gate Guardian
#2
One word: Bots

Its the new farming area for them, so don't be suprised.
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Sax Dakota
Academy Page
#3
hmm didnt see the other posts...and I keep hearing A-net talking abot cracking down on bots....seems to no avail tho...
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koneko
Site Contributor
#4
Yeah, we know. Notice how most of them have odd names (or run into walls)? They get paid to play a game and farm gold to sell (for real money). Not all of them are bots, though...

elona.. ban bots, not nerf the area
Farm-Bot Invasion at Elona Reach International Dis1
Elona... Beyond Ridiculous
tons of Mo/W's in elona?

You'll find the same thing if you check out Droknar's Forge (International Districts). Nothing new, just a problem ArenaNet hasn't addressed.
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TimberOwl
Frost Gate Guardian
#5
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Originally Posted by Sax Dakota
hmm didnt see the other posts...and I keep hearing A-net talking abot cracking down on bots....seems to no avail tho...
I think they will eventually. But i hope they nerf the bots and not the area.
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koneko
Site Contributor
#6
1) Griffons outside Augury Rock --(update)--> scarabs.
2) Dying Nightmares in UW.

They've shown that they'd resort to killing areas :/
Stolen Souls
Stolen Souls
Desert Nomad
#7
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Originally Posted by TimberOwl
I think they will eventually. But i hope they nerf the bots and not the area.

Seriously.

They have to try to find a way to stop the bots themselves (although I can't think of a way off the top of my head). When they nerf an area the bots just travel somewhere else...like a giant swarm of Monks...traveling from place to place, reaping destruction upon the land. >.>

I need sleep...
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TimberOwl
Frost Gate Guardian
#8
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Originally Posted by Stolen Souls
Seriously.

They have to try to find a way to stop the bots themselves (although I can't think of a way off the top of my head). When they nerf an area the bots just travel somewhere else...like a giant swarm of Monks...traveling from place to place, reaping destruction upon the land. >.>

I need sleep...
Well, i think there must be some way to do it. Maybe they are already in the process of creating some sort of system to tackle bots.
felinette
felinette
Wilds Pathfinder
#9
I was in Elona a few nights ago, saw all the Mo/W's, and thought, wow, a lot of monks. Then I remembered the threads here and thought, oh. Sat for a while and watched them all crawl along the wall.
Silent Kitty
Silent Kitty
Desert Nomad
#10
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Originally Posted by TimberOwl
Well, i think there must be some way to do it. Maybe they are already in the process of creating some sort of system to tackle bots.
Or maybe they ignore them, because bots are paying customers too.
Gmr Leon
Gmr Leon
Wilds Pathfinder
#11
Anet needs a team of guys who could hack and destroy the bot programs or just find out how they're programmed and get rid of them.
Xenrath
Xenrath
Desert Nomad
#12
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Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
Or maybe they ignore them, because bots are paying customers too.
I would hope not, those bots are breaking the rules. If Anet ignores that, it doesn't reflect too well on them.

The problem with detecting bot programs is it would need to be invasive detection on part of gw.exe - sort of like anti-keylogger etc. and the guys who develop the external programs (keyloggers for example) will just make new ones/variants.
Witchblade
Witchblade
Polar Bear Attendant
#13
it's easier to nerf the whole economy
bots ll stop when most items ll lose their value

as long as there is trade .. => value => gold
just make the gold useless .. => no more bots
Manic Smile
Manic Smile
Desert Nomad
#14
RUIN PROTECTIVE SPIRIT...ffs I mean reamove ALL -50 HP items and cripple PS...we've seen everything in the world nerfed yet PS has managed to avoid every serious nerbat...wtf a.net?

When warriors take over add balanced degen mobs

When Eles take over...well mezmers fix that problem

it just take a while to overcome the PS change...i'd love to see the day
Witchblade
Witchblade
Polar Bear Attendant
#15
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Originally Posted by Manic Smile
RUIN PROTECTIVE SPIRIT...ffs I mean reamove ALL -50 HP items and cripple PS...we've seen everything in the world nerfed yet PS has managed to avoid every serious nerbat...wtf a.net?

When warriors take over add balanced degen mobs

When Eles take over...well mezmers fix that problem

it just take a while to overcome the PS change...i'd love to see the day
yay sure !! remove all mobs !!! no mobs = no drops = no bots !!

cmon .. stop the BS pls
lg5000
lg5000
Jungle Guide
#16
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Originally Posted by Manic Smile
RUIN PROTECTIVE SPIRIT...ffs I mean reamove ALL -50 HP items and cripple PS...we've seen everything in the world nerfed yet PS has managed to avoid every serious nerbat...wtf a.net?

When warriors take over add balanced degen mobs

When Eles take over...well mezmers fix that problem

it just take a while to overcome the PS change...i'd love to see the day
I like your attitude, now listen to the entire pvp community and prot. spirit... btw, farming minotaurs doesn't net that much money, I think griffons were more profitable, as are trolls.. does anyone know why monks aren't farming trolls anymore?

Oh yeah, I also liked the solution someone else had for the 55 monk... make it so superior monk runes don't attrackt a -75hp

I like weird and wonderful ideas, as long as no-one puts them into practice please.
Silent Kitty
Silent Kitty
Desert Nomad
#17
Devaluating the money helps too. Give everybody 100K worth of elite items of their own choice when they create a character, and you'll see prices, drop like flies
People would just create characters for items :P
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Jedediah Strong
Ascalonian Squire
#18
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Originally Posted by koneko
1) Griffons outside Augury Rock --(update)--> scarabs.
2) Dying Nightmares in UW.

They've shown that they'd resort to killing areas :/
An experienced 55 Nec can get past either of those issues (scarabs and/or dying nightmares).

You have to know the build very well, and you have to know what you are doing, but it IS quite doable still. In fact, the best practice area for a budding 55 Nec is the Griffons south of Augury (and getting to them).

Just ask my (sometimes) 55 Nec Gall Stone.
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easyg
Frost Gate Guardian
#19
I doubt that a protective spirit nerf would help eliminate botters. You'd just start seeing them replaced with w/mo bots.

I'm surprised you don't see more w/mo bots NOW. Killing minos with a w/mo with isn't any harder than it is with a 55 monk. Very simple to cook up the appropriate macros.

Zone....cast live vicariously, cast balthazar's spirit, round up a bunch of minos, and just alternate between bonetti's and cyclone axe. Add whatever you want to make the killing go faster. Super easy....
SirJackassIII
SirJackassIII
Wilds Pathfinder
#20
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Originally Posted by koneko
1) Griffons outside Augury Rock --(update)--> scarabs.
2) Dying Nightmares in UW.

They've shown that they'd resort to killing areas :/
You forgot Avicara outside Droknar (still possible to farm).
It seems a group of Trolls tends to pull a group of Avicara to the cave from time to time. The farm still works most of the time since the group of Avicara seems bugged (BTW, it's a group with a Necro and a Mesmer)