Where are Max Armor Crude Shields Found???

i was wondering where max armor crude shields are they found? I see alot of non-max armor ones e.g. armor 15. but there are also armor 16 ones. I have never seen one drop in my 1800 hours of playing and am wondering if anyone knows where they drop.

Thanks in advance

i think i use to get them back farming griffons in aug rock in the good old days, not 100% sure on this tho.

you are still looking for a crude? I have handled 3 crudes up till now Mods as follows:

Req7
-2/-3 sold it for a shit load of money

Req10
-2/-3 I still own

Req11 15 Armor
-2 enchanted [ Sold to merchant ]

Due to the current economy i have decided to keep the current crude taht i own, but if you can find the person i sold my req7 to, it may not be much but something to go on..... I think.... i have gotten severa crudes form the undead. hopefully that helps...

I got a crude from a chest. I don't know if monsters are able to drop them.

thanks guys and gals for the help. i have a feeling they drop in the jungle somewhere so am going to set out with a ton of keys to invetigate.

shame the -2-3 isnt for sale as its really cool.

Herb : I got a max armour one from the minos in elona, with +30 HP
They tend to drop them a lot, in my experience...

I can only remember one Crude Shield drop (max gold) that I have gotten, and it was from a troll in the Jungle.