Cash Limit X_X

Why must there be a cash limit? right now you can only have 1600k max on all charactors and storage....Why must the storage be limited? It would be different if ectos/rubies/saphires/shards were a steady market. I have just experienced this...I bought 200 ectos at 5k each a few days ago, so I could start making cash again, but ectos dropped to 4.5...I instantly lost 100k, or a 4 hours profit...and some people don't have all day to make that back. Also, the amount of money you can carry on you...I'm still forced to waste time buying ectos...and not many people sell them anyway, and usually 500-1k more than they should be. Its either that or risk getting scammed in a two/three/four times trade...Holding armor? pfft....what does it matter to me? Rare Mat trader is usually 500-1000 more than market price, so you lose profit anyway, unless you buy them.

My solution: Make the storage able to hold an infinate amount of cash...I don't see any unbalenceing issues with this, also hold at least up to 1000k cash with you, as most trades are usually below this.

Why do you need over 1000K? Maybe if your a gold farmer, but there's no point.

If you had time to make over 1000k, i dont think a 100k hit should bother you too much....
1600k is ample space for cash seeing as over 50% of GW accounts have below 20k at anytime anyway

can anyone say "ebay"?

Wow, DaerunAxis...Wow, just wow...Just because 50% doesn't have over 20k at a time doesnt mean us players w/ a bit more gold should have such a limited space. That's 50% of players who could possibly have more storage. You think someone that has more gold than you eBays? LOL. Personally, I wish we could hold maybe 500k cash, storage at 5 Mil. People w/ more than that, well, the 500g prices won't affect them that much . Especially because w/ 500K x 6 = 3 Mil + 5 Mil = 8 Million in cash at a time. That would be suitable for many players as a quite a few people are millionaires but not like obnoxiously rich like 20 Mil +. The amount of people w/ that much could probably be counted with my two hands.

And yes, the problem would be solved if there was a solution like stable rare material prices, but alas, ANet probably didn't intend for people to have more than like 1.6 Mil at a time anyways. Rich haters !

I would sat that not all people that have more then 1000k is ebayers, I have 1000k+ and that is because I play thinking like I am broke, and when I do have cash I load it all into storage so my inventory shows 0 gold to keep me in the broke mind set. Once storage is 1000k I go on a character I don't play much and store it on him.

I resently bought a kuunavang for 100k +16 candy canes and 2 ecto, I had 900k then forgot my monk had 100k resting on him. :-D But the point here is it would be nice to have a solid way to invest this money, for now ecto is a nice way, but ecto is a stock market item that fluctuates, and will steadly loose its value unless the FoW armor gets different looks because frankly factions armor looks 10x better in my opinion.

I like the idea of more space, but then again once you do have 1000k investing the overflow on ecto is not that big of a deal, because in the end you will still have something to craft armor with. :-/

But these 'some people' who had time to make 1600k in the first place, don't have time to make 100k back?

Who said I made it in a day or a week? or a month? I didn't say anything about how long it took. For all you know, it could have taken months (which it did). And another...I made my cash in honest ways...Not ebay.

wow you ppl must be hella good at this game or just play a lot to have that much money!

What's the point of money if you don't use it? ... think about that.

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It's one of the hard limits on that help keeping costs down. There will allways be 100P + X Items. All you do is increase the 1st number. The + X item is not going to go away.

Also you with the ability to buy new character slots in the future, 10$ = 100k storage. So if you want to hold 1000P it will cost you $100 and you will have a ton of space.

Farming nerfs are taking in effect and making gold is harder, sooner or later you buy your ectos and getting the same ammount of gold back will be harder.

/ No way. if anything I would like to see LESS space for gold. Lets look at it like this. 1,600,000 gold coins... Even is its 1,600 Platinum Bars... Who the heck would be able to carry that on their person, Physically??? Odin??? Thor??? Maybe... Hercules Pushing it... Human Tyran or Cantan... NP. lol yea right...

And the shear fact that you have that much gold on you tells me 1 of 2 possible things. Either you are a farming employee that sells their gold though hours of farming to reselling exchanges...

Or your a Ebay broker.

Ok there is one more option that's possible. But its the case if your either of the above as well. Your an idiot.

In other words, Its never been about the goodies or the amount of gold you have. its about skill. Farming is worthless. Ecto is worthless, Amber is worthless, anything in the game is worthless. The only thing of worth in the game is the skill of the player. As every item in the game is basically free as it drops rather easily, OR has a equivalent Collector of crafter counterpart. As such the people that hoard gold as you do, dont really get much for your effort. so why bother. When an equivalent or superior Collector item can be obtained for free, OR even better craft your own and put the mods you want on it to make it as good as you want.

This is not a marketplace game. but people constantly think it is. Its never been about what you have, its been about what you do with it. so those with less then 20K are no less happy then those with a million gold. Its just the people with a million THINK they are better then everyone else for their foolish farming and hoarding, or worse they USE Ebay or Gold Exchanges and think this, because we follow the rules and don't buy gold...

or you are a person that just hoards every single piece of gold they get and don't spend it on anything. the most gold i made recently was selling that CE dragon i got. now with the games economy as it is 100k is as useful for crafting 15k armor and nothing more. farming the materials is tedious and boring and the runs keep getting nerfed. strange how that works, you play a game that encourges farming to make money then that source is cut off.

What on earth could you possibly need more than 1600k for? Usually, I have around 5-10k on me. I have never had over 100k, although in the course of the game I would bet I have had 1 million plat. If you have that much, spend it on something fun. There's really no point to having that much gold. Throw it back in the economy and keep things rolling.

1600 platinum. one answer buying obsidian armor and all related materials

I think there's a limit for the amount you can have on you for a reason. If there wasn't, I wonder how long it would take for people to start asking for a mil for a single item. For storage, I've never had more than a little over 320k in there, but I usually spend it right away as soon as I get it.

/ridiculous

/signed

i run into this problem alot now, i do constant gold farming and sell them and mods, and have over 700k at this point, but if i want to buy a new skinned perfect axe im screwed and have to get ectos. im an axe warrior and damn lucky a 15^50 max celestial axe droped for me that i could mod to be perfect, same for my zodiac axe, but for people who dont have my luck with gold drops and want to buy these weapons and have the money, ebay or earned in game i dont care, then they are up a creek. this wont cause any extra strain on the servers and hard drive space they have, atleast nothing major.

This argument goes both ways...but ITS AN MMO
I can play it however I want...
don't give me guild wars is not MMO please either.

Only reason why there's a cap on storage and characters so the player would buy more accouts to mule on.

/signed

even though i only have a mere 300k i don't see why there is even a cap in the first place. especially the 100k on your character cap, it makes trading harder for the people that sell 100k+ items..

for the people replying about not signing it and not signing it cause it's "physically impossible" have you ever had over 40k yet alone sold an item for over 100k?
Last time i checked this was a game... not real-life.. so who cares if you character can't physically hold that much... do you think we should also lower the amount of space in our inventory as well because it's not possible to hold 45 items + armor + weapons and shield?

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That's one of the fun aspects of the game. Inventory management. You can hoard your gold and materials and your collectible drops.

You don't have enough space for everything in the game so what do you keep? Do you cash in your materials and drops for gold? Whoa, my gold storage is full! Better buy ectos - price of ectos drops! Just lost a ton of gold. Crying because your trying to get richer by playing the buy/sell game and lose is just too bad.

I don't feel any sympathy for those players that want to hoard and then whine about how little space they have. Nothing wrong with keeping enough materials and gold to help out others in your Guild when they want that new set of armor.

But if you wanted to get that FoW armor, keep your materials, usually take up 4 or 5 spaces in your inventory then take your 75k and go get it. Buy your ectos/shards whatever when you have the gold then when you have everything you need go get your armor.

If you want to hoard - do it! But buy yourself the extra slots when they become available this summer so maybe Chapter 3 will be a little cheaper to buy with my real money.

Exactly, this is a game. What's more is that it's a FANTASY game. Reality goes out the door right there.

Ever heard of limits on a bank account? Neither have I. You can deposit as much as you want. Heck, I used to work for a bank, so I know it's a fact that you can put as much money into your accounts as you want with no limits. Bankers will advise you to put money into other things such as IRAs, CDs and so forth, but never will they limit you on the money you hold. If you deposit or withdraw anything over $10,000.00 you have to have your ID documented for gov't purposes, but you can still deposit/withdraw as much as you like, with no limits. :P

/signed - no more limits :P

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1600k is more than enough for anything. There is not really any point in having that much money anyways. I keep a steady 500k and it suits me fine. If you can make 1600k, then you could most likely easily make back any money that you spent.

However, I am for letting your character carry more than 100k. I hate having to accept/trade ectos as currency, especially now since their value is continuing to go down.

There has to be caps placed within the game on everything that has a numerical value.

From a programming point of view each variable (amount of gold on slot 1 , amount of gold in storage, type and quantity of ectos in backpack slot 1) has to be allocated in memory. This means that the space in memory to hold the size of the variable is set aside, even if you have no gold in your storage or on your character.

Therefore every single character and storage has to have the space allocated on the servers. They have to allow for the maximum number of users on at any one time and ensure that they will be able to reserve the space for all of the variable within the game! Maybe they will increase it at some point in the future.

I put the importance of the increase on the gold cap right beside the hairstylist and name changer. Get around to it by Chapter 5 or 6 is good enough for me.

you know what i do when iam out of storage space for gold? ebay it, it gives you the space, and a few bucks to spend on nice things for yourself. gg

for those who say that if you have 1600k, then losing 100k won't hurt you. you probaly never farm for over a mil before, so you probaly don't know what your talking about. most ppl with over a mil farm at the right time and the right place. what does that mean? you ask?. well.....finding the most lucrative place and farm it 24/7 till they nerf it. for example...tengu farming and ids soloing. ppl can pull in 200-300k day with these spots early on, but when they nerfed it, or alot of ppl knowing about it, its not even worth farming anymore. so in conclusion, having 1600k doesn't mean you have a steady gurantee income of X amount of gold per day. having 1600k just means that you got lucky and found a few great spot and grind it until they nerfed it. after they nerf them, ppl who have 1600k probaly make the same amount of money daily as everyone else.

UNLESS your in the trading business, but as you can see, in the trading business you can even lose money. but i never touch the high end trading business, too risky for me.

I maxed out money(1400k) after about 2 weeks of tengu farming, then spend money like mad cuz i cant store anymore. after it gets nerf, i lay dry and eating up till i barely have 1000k and 5k on each character. then i jump on the IDS train, make back the money in no time, spend like mad again cuz i can't store anymore. after everyone know how to solo IDS, i once again lay dry and haven't make any money since. with the release of faction i have no steady income and have to spend money on armors. now i have like 920k in storage with like 10k on each character.

this tragedy can be avoided if the storage cap was higher....like...um...9mil or somthing. and thats not even the end of it. after iam done with getting all my stuff, i'll be down to 600k. pls don't cry for me...iam just a victum, like the rest of us milionaires. my condolenses go out to all of you who caped your money and were force to convert it or spend it so you can make more.

That is against the EULA...Though it does give a small amount of cash (40$=1000k).

I dont get where you got the idea that GW is an MMo because its obvious it is not.

WoW is.
Final Fantasy Online is.
Everquest 1 and 2 is.
Lineage 1 and 2 is.
Conquer Online is.
Runescape is.

Rakion isn't.
Guild wars isn't.
Any game that does not allow players open maps cannot be termed as a MMO. There is NO Massive Multiplayer in GW heh not even in PvP Alliance battles. MMO means the map is "open" with thousand of players in the same map at any given time. GW lacks this and good thing it does too.

Theres your answer on the gold cap. I doubt it will change anytime. But who knows.

OK the problem is with having limitless inventories is this in a nutshell...

The more gold someone can carry the more they can DEMAND for an item. IE Inflation.

If suddenly you can carry 1 million gold on your person Items in the game will suddenly jump SO high in price the average player will not be able to afford anything.

Now as far as I'm concerned who cares, I don't buy or sell shit anyway. I have no interest in it. I play the game, I don't farm it. Why waste my precious few hours a day doing something so stupid? The fact that people in the game have the hours upon hours of time to waste doing such farming activity only goes to prove that we are all immoral and disgusting people in real life and probably need some serious PsychoTherapy... I mean its one thing to be playing with my friends and they want help to get something for themselves and not have to pay 100K +50ecto for it that some idiot is expecting to sell it for... So I help them do that if they want. but that's playing with others. I much prefer this to playing with myself. (and yes I know that sounds bad in other ways as well) but point made I think...

I digress... But with limitless inventories it will not be long before we start seeing black dye for 200K, or End game Green or Elite Green drops for 1 million gold. or more...

Basically all this does is allow Gold resellers a better and faster way to make gold, AND increases the odds someone new to the game will use such services against teh EULA, instead of discouraging the NEED to inflate prices or to have some so called uber item... Anyone that played the game for long, Unless they are just absolutely anal about the particular skin of their stuff, will tell you that the BEST stuff in the game can be obtained for free and paying more then say about 30K for ANYTHING is ridiculous. You just need to look around for it. So why in the name of Dwyana would anyone waste what little legitimate gold they obtain for some over inflated "Item of the moment" that appears later in the game in most cases as a green drop or from crafters, and in many more cases for FREE! from collectors???
Its not about the goodies.. Its not about the goodies.. Its not about the goodies.. Its not about the goodies.. Its not about the goodies.. Its not about the goodies.. Its not about the goodies.. Its not about the goodies.. Its not about the goodies.. Its not about the goodies.. Its not about the goodies.. Its not about the goodies.. ITS NOT ABOUT THE GOODIES!!!!!

Its about SKILL!!!!

Get that through your heads, and you'll be able to play the game no matter how much gold you have forever and never be scammed, or feel the need to break your EULA or RoC and buy gold.

OK I promise this is the last post I will make on this thread. But I think this and the above posts explain the reasoning quite well. And if that is not enough well I'm sorry...

Ingram

PREACH IT BROTHER!!! or SISTER!!! just in case

Thats right GW is SKILL DEPENDANT not GEAR DEPENDANT. It is true the gear gives you some bonuses to your skills like 20% longer enchants or 20% chance faster cast. But GW is the only game where its not gear dependant. YOU DONT NEED AN UBER GEAR TO BEAT THE GUY NEXT DOOR. Once people get that across their heads things will be far more easier.

PS:
Im with you all the way about "Why waste my precious few hours a day doing something so stupid? The fact that people in the game have the hours upon hours of time to waste doing such farming activity only goes to prove that we are all immoral and disgusting people in real life and probably need some serious PsychoTherapy..." Of course thats why they have iffy BOTS now to do the hard boring WORK!

It's so pointless to have limits on a lot of things like GW has. A gold cap would be like a bank saying "Sorry, you can only have $100 in your account." That just does not happen.