another problem if anet open up access to whole tyria for the canthan character

nimloth32

nimloth32

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Celestial Order

W/Mo

well, anet has promised us to let us access to all tyrian continent including ascalon, northen shiverpeak, etc. This is a good news indeed. But however, they also said there might be no reward if we complete the missions in pre-LA. So, how do we get the 'protector of tyria' title if we cannot get the reward for all missions in tyria. Ok assuming if we complete the missions and bonuses in pre-LA and have the shield emblem with two swords (the sign that you have complete both mission and bonus in a particular mission), but without a proper reward like experience and skill points that we used to have, what is the point of accessing to those missions (in pre-LA) anyway?

VGJustice

VGJustice

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tyria, cappin' ur bosses

Boston Guild [BG]

R/W

[EDIT] Need to fix what I said...

This will allow for Canthan characters to get the Protector of Tyria title, which was previously barred from them. Same for a Tyrian in Cantha. Who cares about 1k XP? I can get double that making a suply run in under two minutes.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

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It's to allow for the titles only. Also opens up the map title (if pre is not counted).

And I would be willing to do them for the title(s) w/o the reward.

Loch

Loch

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Ok assuming if we complete the missions and bonuses in pre-LA and have the shield emblem with two swords (the sign that you have complete both mission and bonus in a particular mission), but without a proper reward like experience and skill points that we used to have, what is the point of accessing to those missions (in pre-LA) anyway?
This was a request made by PvE completionists. The casual player won't care about pre-Kryta, but the more thorough completionist wants to complete every mission and clear the fog off all explorable areas.

The idea of giving access to early missions without the reward will work extremely well with the community. Completionists don't always care about the reward, they just want everything completed, and that's exactly what the solution allows. It also gives the casual player zero incentive to go back to Ascalon/Shing Jea and shoot fish in a barrel.

oljomo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Hi

Um, the main thing i would sayis so you cvan help other guildies with new characters ^_^

oljomo

Mahanaxar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Italy

Lupus Et Agnus

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Quote:
Originally Posted by EternalTempest
And I would be willing to do them for the title(s) w/o the reward.
Same here...it sucks to miss the protector of cantha title because i cannot do 2 tutorial missions.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by nimloth32
but without a proper reward like experience and skill points that we used to have, what is the point of accessing to those missions (in pre-LA) anyway?
you get the title you are begging to get.

that is the point

nimloth32

nimloth32

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Celestial Order

W/Mo

then i believe that it is the title system that they need to fix instead of letting ppl to access to pre-LA content from cantha..

mqstout

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Pittsburgh

And because some of the earlier missions are fun even if they're easy. Obliterating the invading Charr army north of the Great Wall is fun.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by mqstout
And because some of the earlier missions are fun even if they're easy. Obliterating the invading Charr army north of the Great Wall is fun.
i do that every so often and i dont need exp and a skill point to enjoy doing it .(like some)

i do the mission
i get the credit
i just dont get the reward.........big whoopie

plasmasword

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

I can't belive Anet is going to be so stingy and stupid that they're not going to allow you to get *1* skill point from an easy mission, when every single quest in Cantha gives you 1 skill point and 3k+ xp, and every mission gives you 1-3 skill points. If I want to get skill points for any character, I bring them to cantha because you can easily get 30+ in a few days. Letting us get 1 skill point from the easy tyrian missions might even be a good thing because it will help out the new ppl just starting out in the game....it just doesnt make sense. "NO YOU CANT GET 1 SKILL POINT FROM AN EASY MISSION IN TYRIA, BUT YOU CAN GET 4 SKILL POINTS PER TOWN IN CANTHA ';..;'!!!"

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

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Join Date: Jun 2005

California

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W/Mo

Also by going to Tyria, it allow your characters to gain the exp and skill points needed in order for them to get all the elites and skills out there.

jummeth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

London

Diary of a Madman [SiKK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by plasmasword
I can't belive Anet is going to be so stingy and stupid that they're not going to allow you to get *1* skill point from an easy mission, when every single quest in Cantha gives you 1 skill point and 3k+ xp, and every mission gives you 1-3 skill points. If I want to get skill points for any character, I bring them to cantha because you can easily get 30+ in a few days. Letting us get 1 skill point from the easy tyrian missions might even be a good thing because it will help out the new ppl just starting out in the game....it just doesnt make sense. "NO YOU CANT GET 1 SKILL POINT FROM AN EASY MISSION IN TYRIA, BUT YOU CAN GET 4 SKILL POINTS PER TOWN IN CANTHA ';..;'!!!"
Jeez, I honestly don't care. I think its nice they are allowing the high level chars into those missions.

Since its such a measly amount of exp, why so worked up?

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by jummeth
Jeez, I honestly don't care. I think its nice they are allowing the high level chars into those missions.

Since its such a measly amount of exp, why so worked up?
Because people just like to moan, whine, and complain about everything they can.

It's rather sad, actually. ArenaNet listens to our pleas. They give us access to the missions we need to complete our wonderful titles. But then, what's this? Someone complains about how they did it!

Just a little bit of wisdom for those of you who can't stand missing out on 1 measely skill point and 2k exp just for walking past some piles of Charr...

You can't always have everything you want!

Guild Wars is a game that is free to play after purchase of the serial key. If you don't like the fact that ArenaNet is doing what you asked and demanded they do, after they have already given us so very much... Then leave the game. Nobody is forcing you to stay.

Gargle Blaster

Gargle Blaster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Where/When did ArenaNet say this?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avaith Faer

[I]You can't always have everything you want!
and when you give them what they want they complain twice as loud.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gargle Blaster
Where/When did ArenaNet say this?
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...49#post1418649

Renegade ++RIP++

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avaith Faer
Because people just like to moan, whine, and complain about everything they can.

It's rather sad, actually. ArenaNet listens to our pleas. They give us access to the missions we need to complete our wonderful titles. But then, what's this? Someone complains about how they did it!

Just a little bit of wisdom for those of you who can't stand missing out on 1 measely skill point and 2k exp just for walking past some piles of Charr...

You can't always have everything you want!

Guild Wars is a game that is free to play after purchase of the serial key. If you don't like the fact that ArenaNet is doing what you asked and demanded they do, after they have already given us so very much... Then leave the game. Nobody is forcing you to stay.
baldurs gate is a game free to play after buying the serial, so is nwn, morrowind, oblivion and million other games, so really why bother making that point...

if you then state that gw is an mmorpg without a fee and that we should be happy for its existence, i would really wish to point you towards the item that gw is not an mmorpg but a corpg and if not for this free continued play, it would never have been so hyped... Not to mention that we shouldn't expect any less because we already had a reduced number of slots due to fuzzy math which explicitely stated that we would switch in 2 charslot for a 100% contentlevel... meaning all quests, rewards etc... attainable not being prohibited from doing x or y from its content..

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

Cry just a little bit louder please. By not getting those skillpoints / xp rewards you are out a total of 7 skill points and 14K XP (mission + bonus). The XP is seriously easy to earn in factions and the skill points are likewise, hell, my ranger who had ONE skill point upon coming to Cantha now has THIRTEEN, and I haven't even gotten to Tahnnakai with him yet.

I guess the old adage is definately true, you can't please everyone.

Fyre Brand

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Shadowlight Order [SoR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
i do that every so often and i dont need exp and a skill point to enjoy doing it .(like some)

i do the mission
i get the credit
i just dont get the reward.........big whoopie
Yep. The point is that the titles can be achieved, you can farm charr hides or dinnk around in the mission if you want, or you can go help out newbies if you feel like it. I think ANet is doing a fine job on this point of providing the promised content without handing out a bunch of free skill points and xp.

Cash

Cash

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Bound By Wild Desire [Wild]

thumbs up to ANET on this one. i think its only fitting that canthan chars have a chance to get protector of tyria and grandmaster cartography titles and vice versa. the skill point and 1k exp dont (at least SHOULDNT) matter to a character going backwards to these missions, and while i wouldnt consider it a big deal if the rewards WERE given, i certainly dont care that they arent.

Renegade ++RIP++

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by dargon
Cry just a little bit louder please. By not getting those skillpoints / xp rewards you are out a total of 7 skill points and 14K XP (mission + bonus). The XP is seriously easy to earn in factions and the skill points are likewise, hell, my ranger who had ONE skill point upon coming to Cantha now has THIRTEEN, and I haven't even gotten to Tahnnakai with him yet.

I guess the old adage is definately true, you can't please everyone.
Even if it was 1 frigging xp point, it would still factor in the 100% contentstatement that they made with the introduction of gw. Anything less can be seen as false advertisement and is punishable by international trading law. That wouldn't mean that I would make a big deal out of it, nor out of this but fair is fair...

Although I still wonder why people keep finding excuses for a company that keeps spindoctoring by promising x and providing y in stead. Its really mindboggling... any other non gamesrelated company would already be buried under IoU's from here till the kilamanjaro... Heck i wanna see your response when you ask for a beefburger and they serve you bacon... its meat so you should be content with it... Or when you buy a beefburger and they deliver you a baconburger without the bun stating that you'll get the bun next week when they fixed x or y...

linh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by plasmasword
I can't belive Anet is going to be so stingy and stupid that they're not going to allow you to get *1* skill point from an easy mission, when every single quest in Cantha gives you 1 skill point and 3k+ xp, and every mission gives you 1-3 skill points. If I want to get skill points for any character, I bring them to cantha because you can easily get 30+ in a few days. Letting us get 1 skill point from the easy tyrian missions might even be a good thing because it will help out the new ppl just starting out in the game....it just doesnt make sense. "NO YOU CANT GET 1 SKILL POINT FROM AN EASY MISSION IN TYRIA, BUT YOU CAN GET 4 SKILL POINTS PER TOWN IN CANTHA ';..;'!!!"
People complaint about not being able to get the title "Protector of Tyria/Cantha", so ANet is going to fix that to satisfy us. As someone said " After a complain, people will find another thing to complain".
What is your purpose of doing first missions in Tyria besides getting title, exploring or helping people ? Do you actually want to get xp and skill points ?
As you said, you can get xp and skill points easily in Cantha missions and quests, so why do you bother to get xp and skills points from those easy missions ?
When you go to Tyria from Kaineng, then run back to Ascalon, your level should be quite high ( about 13+ with 2 attribute points quests done), so you can't say that you are "low level", "new char" and need skill points, xp badly.

plasmasword

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by linhlh
People complaint about not being able to get the title "Protector of Tyria/Cantha", so ANet is going to fix that to satisfy us. As someone said " After a complain, people will find another thing to complain".
What is your purpose of doing first missions in Tyria besides getting title, exploring or helping people ? Do you actually want to get xp and skill points ?
As you said, you can get xp and skill points easily in Cantha missions and quests, so why do you bother to get xp and skills points from those easy missions ?
When you go to Tyria from Kaineng, then run back to Ascalon, your level should be quite high ( about 13+ with 2 attribute points quests done), so you can't say that you are "low level", "new char" and need skill points, xp badly.
My point is that anet went out of their way to take away the skill point you get from the mission, yes I consider skill points "content". They should of just left it how it was. I'll still be doing all these missions on my Rt though.

Gargle Blaster

Gargle Blaster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Verry good, thank you ArenaNet.

Wessels

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Boyz from the Dwarf

Mo/N

All that matters is that you can earn both protector of Tyria and Cantha titles . If that is the case , I couldn't care less about rewards etc. ( I'm assuming this will be possible - unless the two missions at start of factions campaign count towards protector-title in which case the "protector of Cantha " title is not obtainable for tyrian characters ) .

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade ++RIP++
Although I still wonder why people keep finding excuses for a company that keeps spindoctoring by promising x and providing y in stead. Its really mindboggling... any other non gamesrelated company would already be buried under IoU's from here till the kilamanjaro... Heck i wanna see your response when you ask for a beefburger and they serve you bacon... its meat so you should be content with it... Or when you buy a beefburger and they deliver you a baconburger without the bun stating that you'll get the bun next week when they fixed x or y...
Quite frankly, I didn't buy the game so I can take my canthan characters back to ascalon, i probably will, but that's not why I bought it. As for your example, it's a little off, it's more like your ordered a bacon cheeseburger with 2 slices of cheese and instead got 1.9.

Swampgirl Inez

Swampgirl Inez

"I love reading trash!"

Join Date: May 2005

Home Again

Whining, complaining, name-calling. I'd have to delete most of the posts in here just to get it back on topic.

Closed.