215 attributes?

Wyvern King

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

R/N

Since tyrian characters get 200 (desert, desert, shivers) but there is another on the canthan island, will we get MORE??!?!?!?

Since soon tyrians can reach the canthan island and do that quest... and canthans can already do the three attribute quests in tyria... will people wth merged accounts be able to get 215?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyvern King
Since tyrian characters get 200 (desert, desert, shivers) but there is another on the canthan island, will we get MORE??!?!?!?

Since soon tyrians can reach the canthan island and do that quest... and canthans can already do the three attribute quests in tyria... will people wth merged accounts be able to get 215?
they dont get the points from them

answer is no as 200 is the limit

CartmanPT

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Mo

Actualy there are 2 attribute quests in the chantan island, but tyrian characters cant do them, and almoast 100% sure it will stay that way in future

Kilane

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Charleston, WV

Tribal Instincts

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
they dont get the points from them

answer is no as 200 is the limit
Uhm...okay. There are two 15 point attribute quests for ascended (Tyrian) chars for a total of 230 attribute points.

There are two 15 point attribute quests for Canthan chars on the Island for a total of 230 attribute points.

Tyrian chars cannot get the points for the Canthan attribute quests.
Canthan chars cannot get the points for the Tyrian attribute quests.

The total regardless of whereever your character started his/her life is 230 attribute points.

Kilane

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Charleston, WV

Tribal Instincts

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyvern King
Since tyrian characters get 200 (desert, desert, shivers) but there is another on the canthan island, will we get MORE??!?!?!?

Since soon tyrians can reach the canthan island and do that quest... and canthans can already do the three attribute quests in tyria... will people wth merged accounts be able to get 215?
Canthans can *NOT* do the Tyrian attribute point quests.

Icelightin

Icelightin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

I Can't Get It [Up]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilane
Uhm...okay. There are two 15 point attribute quests for ascended (Tyrian) chars for a total of 230 attribute points.

There are two 15 point attribute quests for Canthan chars on the Island for a total of 230 attribute points.

Tyrian chars cannot get the points for the Canthan attribute quests.
Canthan chars cannot get the points for the Tyrian attribute quests.

The total regardless of whereever your character started his/her life is 230 attribute points.
your grand total is 200 with the atty quest done on either area cantha cant do tryia and vise versa

Raiin Maker

Raiin Maker

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

England

Blood On The Worlds Hands

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilane
Uhm...okay. There are two 15 point attribute quests for ascended (Tyrian) chars for a total of 230 attribute points.

There are two 15 point attribute quests for Canthan chars on the Island for a total of 230 attribute points.

Tyrian chars cannot get the points for the Canthan attribute quests.
Canthan chars cannot get the points for the Tyrian attribute quests.

The total regardless of whereever your character started his/her life is 230 attribute points.

you gain attributes as you gain levels, you start with 0 attribs, and then get +5 for each level (to level10) then +10 for each level (to level 15) and then you get + 5 again (to level 20) this makes you end up with 170 attrbute points.

for tyrian chars there is 1 attrbute quest in the desert and one when you have acended in droks.

for canthan they are in pre sear.

you cant get the other race's attributes.

you can only get 200 no more than this is available, and i doubt will ever be.

hope this helps.

Burakus Lightwing

Burakus Lightwing

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilane
Uhm...okay. There are two 15 point attribute quests for ascended (Tyrian) chars for a total of 230 attribute points.

There are two 15 point attribute quests for Canthan chars on the Island for a total of 230 attribute points.

Tyrian chars cannot get the points for the Canthan attribute quests.
Canthan chars cannot get the points for the Tyrian attribute quests.

The total regardless of whereever your character started his/her life is 230 attribute points.
Actually 200 is max. 170 from hitting level 20 and then the two 15 attribute point quests.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Attribute_points

Mandy Memory

Mandy Memory

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

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200 is the max...even if you were to do the 4 quests by some bug or whatnot...Your attribute points would never total higher than 200.

FireMountain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

After you reach the 200 max points why even award points? What's the use of it.

You do all these Canthan quests and missions after you are level 20 you get thousands and thousands of points and for what? You fight level 28 monsters yet you can't get to that level?

I think they should allow you to get to level 30 have areas where there are level 38 monsters that can torch a group of 20s.

Canthan is fun but you reach level 20 so quickly and it's like why after that? There really is nothing left to look forward too, skill points shoot you have them coming out the ying yang maybe some nice new armor at the end. So you level and level and level but stay at level 20 where is the fun in that.

I hoped you could go back and forth and somehow get extra attribute points between the two games but it looks like that isn't going to happen.

If you could turn in your useless points gained for a mission or quest for something worth it perhaps it would be different but the current set up just makes no sense. Get 3,000 points for this or that after you've reached the max is about as useful as tits on a bull.

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

If you mean experience points, you continue to earn them towards your next skill point. And those are needed to buy skills and signets of capture to get elite skills. I've had my Ranger for over 50 days and capped 26 elite skills and still only have I think 96 leftover skill points. Still not enough to get all the elites in the game even if I had the gold to get enough signets for all the skill points I have right now. Which means this game has a TON of replay value for me. There's always something to accomplish just about every time I play. Capping an elite itself is a gain and accomplishment.

FireMountain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

sorry if you misunderstood me I was talking attribute points and total points awarded for the mission not skill points. Do you need skill points for Elite skill capping? I thought you just go out with a signet of capture, kill the boss and see if you want that skill. Many elite skills I'll pass up because I'll never use them.

Just looked it up what I should have said or meant to say is why give experience points after you've reached level twenty they don't make any sense to me if you can't level any higher?

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

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you need experience points after 20 for skill points, which are used to buy skills, the most populkar of such skills is the cap sig which must be renewed to get new elites. So it is VERY useful to get points after 20. Alos Anet has said that the lvl cap will FOREVER be 20 this is what makes guild wars better than other MMO'S no more get the best weapon hit attack and grab a cuppa coffee crap, you actually have to try.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by FireMountain
After you reach the 200 max points why even award points? What's the use of it.

You fight level 28 monsters yet you can't get to that level?

I think they should allow you to get to level 30 have areas where there are level 38 monsters that can torch a group of 20s.

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dont you even see how useless what you suggest is?

think about i.

level 20`s fighting level 28 monsters

you should get to level 30 (10 higher) so you can fight level 38 (10 higher) monsters

then you would yell the monsters are level 38 so we should be able to get that level also ..........and have level 48 monsters to kill

and then...................rince and repeat whine

what the freaking h is the difference except an extra day or two to hit your level 30 cap for another round of raise the level to 40 whine.

give me content not an elitest im higher level than you game

TheMosesPHD

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by FireMountain
After you reach the 200 max points why even award points? What's the use of it.

You do all these Canthan quests and missions after you are level 20 you get thousands and thousands of points and for what? You fight level 28 monsters yet you can't get to that level?

I think they should allow you to get to level 30 have areas where there are level 38 monsters that can torch a group of 20s.

Canthan is fun but you reach level 20 so quickly and it's like why after that? There really is nothing left to look forward too, skill points shoot you have them coming out the ying yang maybe some nice new armor at the end. So you level and level and level but stay at level 20 where is the fun in that.

I hoped you could go back and forth and somehow get extra attribute points between the two games but it looks like that isn't going to happen.

If you could turn in your useless points gained for a mission or quest for something worth it perhaps it would be different but the current set up just makes no sense. Get 3,000 points for this or that after you've reached the max is about as useful as tits on a bull.
I don't understand why people keep suggesting such a silly thing For the 100th time the game is about aquiring skills and using strategy to create a build out of only 8 slots. If you want a game all about lvls you could play Silkroad or something. But whatever you do, don't play WoW. WoW is ugly

Maria The Princess

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

i tried...

but no, 200 is the limit

Bane of Worlds

Bane of Worlds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Meadow

Rt/

hence why I play this game

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Anet has said it before, they want the players to be good because of their skill, not how many hours they can sit infront of the computer power leveling themselves.

Hell Raiser

Hell Raiser

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

[PHNX]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilane
Uhm...okay. There are two 15 point attribute quests for ascended (Tyrian) chars for a total of 230 attribute points.

There are two 15 point attribute quests for Canthan chars on the Island for a total of 230 attribute points.

Tyrian chars cannot get the points for the Canthan attribute quests.
Canthan chars cannot get the points for the Tyrian attribute quests.

The total regardless of whereever your character started his/her life is 230 attribute points.
Umm... When you reach level 20, your total attributes will be 170, you do the two tyrian or canthan 15 attribute quest, you total 200. What the OP is saying is that if a canthan character reaches the 200 total, then goes to tyria and does those two 15 attribute quests will you get a total of 230? the answer is No, 200 is the CAP just like the level CAP even if you do do the other quests it wil not raise your attributes above 200.

Edit: btw canthan characters CAN do the tyrian 15 attribute quests.

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

Censored

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by FireMountain
sorry if you misunderstood me I was talking attribute points and total points awarded for the mission not skill points. Do you need skill points for Elite skill capping? I thought you just go out with a signet of capture, kill the boss and see if you want that skill. Many elite skills I'll pass up because I'll never use them.

Just looked it up what I should have said or meant to say is why give experience points after you've reached level twenty they don't make any sense to me if you can't level any higher?
You need skill points to buy Cap sig's

Wildi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

PvE is the Metagame

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
dont you even see how useless what you suggest is?

think about i.

level 20`s fighting level 28 monsters

you should get to level 30 (10 higher) so you can fight level 38 (10 higher) monsters

then you would yell the monsters are level 38 so we should be able to get that level also ..........and have level 48 monsters to kill

and then...................rince and repeat whine

what the freaking h is the difference except an extra day or two to hit your level 30 cap for another round of raise the level to 40 whine.

give me content not an elitest im higher level than you game
then tell us why are we able to reach lvl 20 ? wouldn't lvl 10 be enough ? or lvl 5 fighting lvl 10 monsters ?

abilities of low lvl characters are limited, how much would it suck to play with lvl 5 chars the whole time
leveling up to higher levels means more possibilities more skill points and even more room for individuality, (low)lvl 20 cap doesn't make the game better, it is just the wrong way to avoid unbalance

Remus00

Remus00

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

W/Mo

some ppl said stuff like GW is all about skill...not the amount of hours in front of the screen...


i never really understood y they capped the leveling off at 20....i mean seriously, u cannot say WoW has no/littler skill involved....for those of u who've played it, u know about talent trees...totally unique, the more lvls, the more unique ur char is (probably). thats all skill, baby! its like GW only u get 100000000 slots. (lol) u talk about the best class in WoW and everyone is opinionated, sure Hunters own, but n e 1 will say a good ________ could beat them. Its very balenced IMO. one duel, u beat him, next, he beats u.

GW on the other hand, (i really didnt want to say "on the other hand" but for a lack of better words...) whats dominant? W/Mo (controvertial, i know, but plz dont respond to it) *farming RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs*...etc....

ok, recap. Assuming its a veteran thats playing both games... WoW, more u play, better gear, more in-depth talent trees, more PWNAGE.
GW more u play, get ur 1 elite, get ur 7 other skills, better gear (which is VERY easy to get), more PWNAGE

odds are most ppl use the same build for GW ... for Ex. W/Mo 16 Axe/Sword/Hammer (a primary weapon/skills), 9-10 Str/Tact (For a shield/skills) and like... 9-10 Heal
WoW...is like...do i want to be 1337 with weapons? or spells? what about healing? etc.

one of the most envious (<<<dont know how to spell) things about WoW is...to get epic Armor (or in GW's case, Green Weapons(im talking about the weaps that ppl actually want)) u cant just repeatedly do it. Failed ToPK? REDO. Failed .... UBERS (?) TOO DAMN BAD! NOT TO MENTION the odds of getting epic gear to drop is...slim, and for U to get it, in a 40 man team....SLIMMER!

ugh...i could talk all night on this topic, and im sure im now hated in the GW community, but w/e. i have a lot to say...i just dont know how to word it... open to MOST responses...and i do realize this is kinda off-topic, so if an admin wants to move it to the appropreite thread, thats cool. im just too lazy.



Fyre Brand

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Shadowlight Order [SoR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildi
then tell us why are we able to reach lvl 20 ? wouldn't lvl 10 be enough ? or lvl 5 fighting lvl 10 monsters ?

abilities of low lvl characters are limited, how much would it suck to play with lvl 5 chars the whole time
leveling up to higher levels means more possibilities more skill points and even more room for individuality, (low)lvl 20 cap doesn't make the game better, it is just the wrong way to avoid unbalance
Oh for Pete's sakes! I can't believe that you can't reason that out for yourself. There is a level range to gain skills. The idea is that the skills are balanced at a certain level. There are 8 classes with a few hundred skills. The idea is that everyone has 8 skills that all have counters to them and that counter other skills.

If you were going to make ignorant arguments keep going all the way.... Why bring skills at all? Why not bring all the skills? Why shouldn't we have 10,000 health? Why can't we have infinite energy? These are obviously rediculous questions.

Some games are designed to have different long term goals. Even with a PvE environment the core of Guild Wars is really PvP. It isn't a standard MMO so the kinds of long term goals in this game aren't associated with unlimited leveling or power items. It is about building skill sets. This is why all armours and weapons for a certain class all have the same max stats (eg: 15 - 28 damage for a bow, or 11 - 22 for a caster weapon). This is why all classes max armour all have the same max stats (with flavor variations). There is no zel/dai to over enchant your armour and weapons because that isn't what the game is about.

I love PvE and role playing, but that isn't what this game is about. This isn't WoW or Lineage or EQ. I find it odd that people don't get the difference.

darkMishkin

darkMishkin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hell Raiser
Edit: btw canthan characters CAN do the tyrian 15 attribute quests.
Say again?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildi
then tell us why are we able to reach lvl 20 ? wouldn't lvl 10 be enough ? or lvl 5 fighting lvl 10 monsters ?
Alex Weekes (NCSoft Europe)

Quote:
Guild Wars, in contrast, is based around your skill as a player. Our maximum level is twenty, and you hit that very quickly, after about 20-30 hours of play. We call that 'The Point of Ascension'. Almost all of the content in the game and in the future Chapters is only available to Ascended characters, which means we don't have to worry about providing different levels of content. All the good stuff will be available to everyone. It's not our intent to force people onto the levelling up treadmill, so the level cap in Guild Wars is almost meaningless.
[QUOTE Wildi]leveling up to higher levels means more possibilities more skill points and even more room for individuality, (low)lvl 20 cap doesn't make the game better, it is just the wrong way to avoid unbalance[/QUOTE]

the possibilities are identical as the relative power/damage levels never change.

all that does is raise the numbers as the balance stays the same.

get over inflation elitesm so you can go my level is bigger than yours.

Charqus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/

You CANNOT get more than 200 attrib points... question answered