215 attributes?
Wyvern King
Since tyrian characters get 200 (desert, desert, shivers) but there is another on the canthan island, will we get MORE??!?!?!?
Since soon tyrians can reach the canthan island and do that quest... and canthans can already do the three attribute quests in tyria... will people wth merged accounts be able to get 215?
Since soon tyrians can reach the canthan island and do that quest... and canthans can already do the three attribute quests in tyria... will people wth merged accounts be able to get 215?
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by Wyvern King
Since tyrian characters get 200 (desert, desert, shivers) but there is another on the canthan island, will we get MORE??!?!?!?
Since soon tyrians can reach the canthan island and do that quest... and canthans can already do the three attribute quests in tyria... will people wth merged accounts be able to get 215? |

answer is no as 200 is the limit
CartmanPT
Actualy there are 2 attribute quests in the chantan island, but tyrian characters cant do them, and almoast 100% sure it will stay that way in future
Kilane
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
![]() answer is no as 200 is the limit |
There are two 15 point attribute quests for Canthan chars on the Island for a total of 230 attribute points.
Tyrian chars cannot get the points for the Canthan attribute quests.
Canthan chars cannot get the points for the Tyrian attribute quests.
The total regardless of whereever your character started his/her life is 230 attribute points.
Kilane
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Originally Posted by Wyvern King
Since tyrian characters get 200 (desert, desert, shivers) but there is another on the canthan island, will we get MORE??!?!?!?
Since soon tyrians can reach the canthan island and do that quest... and canthans can already do the three attribute quests in tyria... will people wth merged accounts be able to get 215? |
Icelightin
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Originally Posted by Kilane
Uhm...okay. There are two 15 point attribute quests for ascended (Tyrian) chars for a total of 230 attribute points.
There are two 15 point attribute quests for Canthan chars on the Island for a total of 230 attribute points. Tyrian chars cannot get the points for the Canthan attribute quests. Canthan chars cannot get the points for the Tyrian attribute quests. The total regardless of whereever your character started his/her life is 230 attribute points. |
Raiin Maker
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Originally Posted by Kilane
Uhm...okay. There are two 15 point attribute quests for ascended (Tyrian) chars for a total of 230 attribute points.
There are two 15 point attribute quests for Canthan chars on the Island for a total of 230 attribute points. Tyrian chars cannot get the points for the Canthan attribute quests. Canthan chars cannot get the points for the Tyrian attribute quests. The total regardless of whereever your character started his/her life is 230 attribute points. |
you gain attributes as you gain levels, you start with 0 attribs, and then get +5 for each level (to level10) then +10 for each level (to level 15) and then you get + 5 again (to level 20) this makes you end up with 170 attrbute points.
for tyrian chars there is 1 attrbute quest in the desert and one when you have acended in droks.
for canthan they are in pre sear.
you cant get the other race's attributes.
you can only get 200 no more than this is available, and i doubt will ever be.
hope this helps.
Burakus Lightwing
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Originally Posted by Kilane
Uhm...okay. There are two 15 point attribute quests for ascended (Tyrian) chars for a total of 230 attribute points.
There are two 15 point attribute quests for Canthan chars on the Island for a total of 230 attribute points. Tyrian chars cannot get the points for the Canthan attribute quests. Canthan chars cannot get the points for the Tyrian attribute quests. The total regardless of whereever your character started his/her life is 230 attribute points. |
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Attribute_points
Mandy Memory
200 is the max...even if you were to do the 4 quests by some bug or whatnot...Your attribute points would never total higher than 200.
FireMountain
After you reach the 200 max points why even award points? What's the use of it.
You do all these Canthan quests and missions after you are level 20 you get thousands and thousands of points and for what? You fight level 28 monsters yet you can't get to that level?
I think they should allow you to get to level 30 have areas where there are level 38 monsters that can torch a group of 20s.
Canthan is fun but you reach level 20 so quickly and it's like why after that? There really is nothing left to look forward too, skill points shoot you have them coming out the ying yang maybe some nice new armor at the end. So you level and level and level but stay at level 20 where is the fun in that.
I hoped you could go back and forth and somehow get extra attribute points between the two games but it looks like that isn't going to happen.
If you could turn in your useless points gained for a mission or quest for something worth it perhaps it would be different but the current set up just makes no sense. Get 3,000 points for this or that after you've reached the max is about as useful as tits on a bull.
You do all these Canthan quests and missions after you are level 20 you get thousands and thousands of points and for what? You fight level 28 monsters yet you can't get to that level?
I think they should allow you to get to level 30 have areas where there are level 38 monsters that can torch a group of 20s.
Canthan is fun but you reach level 20 so quickly and it's like why after that? There really is nothing left to look forward too, skill points shoot you have them coming out the ying yang maybe some nice new armor at the end. So you level and level and level but stay at level 20 where is the fun in that.
I hoped you could go back and forth and somehow get extra attribute points between the two games but it looks like that isn't going to happen.
If you could turn in your useless points gained for a mission or quest for something worth it perhaps it would be different but the current set up just makes no sense. Get 3,000 points for this or that after you've reached the max is about as useful as tits on a bull.
Linksys
If you mean experience points, you continue to earn them towards your next skill point. And those are needed to buy skills and signets of capture to get elite skills. I've had my Ranger for over 50 days and capped 26 elite skills and still only have I think 96 leftover skill points. Still not enough to get all the elites in the game even if I had the gold to get enough signets for all the skill points I have right now. Which means this game has a TON of replay value for me. There's always something to accomplish just about every time I play. Capping an elite itself is a gain and accomplishment.
FireMountain
sorry if you misunderstood me I was talking attribute points and total points awarded for the mission not skill points. Do you need skill points for Elite skill capping? I thought you just go out with a signet of capture, kill the boss and see if you want that skill. Many elite skills I'll pass up because I'll never use them.
Just looked it up what I should have said or meant to say is why give experience points after you've reached level twenty they don't make any sense to me if you can't level any higher?
Just looked it up what I should have said or meant to say is why give experience points after you've reached level twenty they don't make any sense to me if you can't level any higher?

Kijik Oni Hanryuu
you need experience points after 20 for skill points, which are used to buy skills, the most populkar of such skills is the cap sig which must be renewed to get new elites. So it is VERY useful to get points after 20. Alos Anet has said that the lvl cap will FOREVER be 20 this is what makes guild wars better than other MMO'S no more get the best weapon hit attack and grab a cuppa coffee crap, you actually have to try.
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by FireMountain
After you reach the 200 max points why even award points? What's the use of it.
You fight level 28 monsters yet you can't get to that level? I think they should allow you to get to level 30 have areas where there are level 38 monsters that can torch a group of 20s. . |

think about i.
level 20`s fighting level 28 monsters
you should get to level 30 (10 higher) so you can fight level 38 (10 higher) monsters

and then...................rince and repeat whine
what the freaking h is the difference except an extra day or two to hit your level 30 cap for another round of raise the level to 40 whine.
give me content not an elitest im higher level than you game
TheMosesPHD
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Originally Posted by FireMountain
After you reach the 200 max points why even award points? What's the use of it.
You do all these Canthan quests and missions after you are level 20 you get thousands and thousands of points and for what? You fight level 28 monsters yet you can't get to that level? I think they should allow you to get to level 30 have areas where there are level 38 monsters that can torch a group of 20s. Canthan is fun but you reach level 20 so quickly and it's like why after that? There really is nothing left to look forward too, skill points shoot you have them coming out the ying yang maybe some nice new armor at the end. So you level and level and level but stay at level 20 where is the fun in that. I hoped you could go back and forth and somehow get extra attribute points between the two games but it looks like that isn't going to happen. If you could turn in your useless points gained for a mission or quest for something worth it perhaps it would be different but the current set up just makes no sense. Get 3,000 points for this or that after you've reached the max is about as useful as tits on a bull. |


Maria The Princess
i tried...
but no, 200 is the limit

but no, 200 is the limit
Bane of Worlds
hence why I play this game
Marty Silverblade
Anet has said it before, they want the players to be good because of their skill, not how many hours they can sit infront of the computer power leveling themselves.
Hell Raiser
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Originally Posted by Kilane
Uhm...okay. There are two 15 point attribute quests for ascended (Tyrian) chars for a total of 230 attribute points.
There are two 15 point attribute quests for Canthan chars on the Island for a total of 230 attribute points. Tyrian chars cannot get the points for the Canthan attribute quests. Canthan chars cannot get the points for the Tyrian attribute quests. The total regardless of whereever your character started his/her life is 230 attribute points. |
Edit: btw canthan characters CAN do the tyrian 15 attribute quests.
Stockholm
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Originally Posted by FireMountain
sorry if you misunderstood me I was talking attribute points and total points awarded for the mission not skill points. Do you need skill points for Elite skill capping? I thought you just go out with a signet of capture, kill the boss and see if you want that skill. Many elite skills I'll pass up because I'll never use them.
Just looked it up what I should have said or meant to say is why give experience points after you've reached level twenty they don't make any sense to me if you can't level any higher? ![]() |
Wildi
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
![]() think about i. level 20`s fighting level 28 monsters you should get to level 30 (10 higher) so you can fight level 38 (10 higher) monsters ![]() and then...................rince and repeat whine what the freaking h is the difference except an extra day or two to hit your level 30 cap for another round of raise the level to 40 whine. give me content not an elitest im higher level than you game |
abilities of low lvl characters are limited, how much would it suck to play with lvl 5 chars the whole time
leveling up to higher levels means more possibilities more skill points and even more room for individuality, (low)lvl 20 cap doesn't make the game better, it is just the wrong way to avoid unbalance
Remus00
some ppl said stuff like GW is all about skill...not the amount of hours in front of the screen...
i never really understood y they capped the leveling off at 20....i mean seriously, u cannot say WoW has no/littler skill involved....for those of u who've played it, u know about talent trees...totally unique, the more lvls, the more unique ur char is (probably). thats all skill, baby! its like GW only u get 100000000 slots. (lol) u talk about the best class in WoW and everyone is opinionated, sure Hunters own, but n e 1 will say a good ________ could beat them. Its very balenced IMO. one duel, u beat him, next, he beats u.
GW on the other hand, (i really didnt want to say "on the other hand" but for a lack of better words...) whats dominant? W/Mo (controvertial, i know, but plz dont respond to it) *farming RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs*...etc....
ok, recap. Assuming its a veteran thats playing both games... WoW, more u play, better gear, more in-depth talent trees, more PWNAGE.
GW more u play, get ur 1 elite, get ur 7 other skills, better gear (which is VERY easy to get), more PWNAGE
odds are most ppl use the same build for GW ... for Ex. W/Mo 16 Axe/Sword/Hammer (a primary weapon/skills), 9-10 Str/Tact (For a shield/skills) and like... 9-10 Heal
WoW...is like...do i want to be 1337 with weapons? or spells? what about healing? etc.
one of the most envious (<<<dont know how to spell) things about WoW is...to get epic Armor (or in GW's case, Green Weapons(im talking about the weaps that ppl actually want)) u cant just repeatedly do it. Failed ToPK? REDO. Failed .... UBERS (?) TOO DAMN BAD! NOT TO MENTION the odds of getting epic gear to drop is...slim, and for U to get it, in a 40 man team....SLIMMER!
ugh...i could talk all night on this topic, and im sure im now hated in the GW community, but w/e. i have a lot to say...i just dont know how to word it... open to MOST responses...and i do realize this is kinda off-topic, so if an admin wants to move it to the appropreite thread, thats cool. im just too lazy.
i never really understood y they capped the leveling off at 20....i mean seriously, u cannot say WoW has no/littler skill involved....for those of u who've played it, u know about talent trees...totally unique, the more lvls, the more unique ur char is (probably). thats all skill, baby! its like GW only u get 100000000 slots. (lol) u talk about the best class in WoW and everyone is opinionated, sure Hunters own, but n e 1 will say a good ________ could beat them. Its very balenced IMO. one duel, u beat him, next, he beats u.
GW on the other hand, (i really didnt want to say "on the other hand" but for a lack of better words...) whats dominant? W/Mo (controvertial, i know, but plz dont respond to it) *farming RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs*...etc....
ok, recap. Assuming its a veteran thats playing both games... WoW, more u play, better gear, more in-depth talent trees, more PWNAGE.
GW more u play, get ur 1 elite, get ur 7 other skills, better gear (which is VERY easy to get), more PWNAGE
odds are most ppl use the same build for GW ... for Ex. W/Mo 16 Axe/Sword/Hammer (a primary weapon/skills), 9-10 Str/Tact (For a shield/skills) and like... 9-10 Heal
WoW...is like...do i want to be 1337 with weapons? or spells? what about healing? etc.
one of the most envious (<<<dont know how to spell) things about WoW is...to get epic Armor (or in GW's case, Green Weapons(im talking about the weaps that ppl actually want)) u cant just repeatedly do it. Failed ToPK? REDO. Failed .... UBERS (?) TOO DAMN BAD! NOT TO MENTION the odds of getting epic gear to drop is...slim, and for U to get it, in a 40 man team....SLIMMER!
ugh...i could talk all night on this topic, and im sure im now hated in the GW community, but w/e. i have a lot to say...i just dont know how to word it... open to MOST responses...and i do realize this is kinda off-topic, so if an admin wants to move it to the appropreite thread, thats cool. im just too lazy.



Fyre Brand
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Originally Posted by Wildi
then tell us why are we able to reach lvl 20 ? wouldn't lvl 10 be enough ? or lvl 5 fighting lvl 10 monsters ?
abilities of low lvl characters are limited, how much would it suck to play with lvl 5 chars the whole time leveling up to higher levels means more possibilities more skill points and even more room for individuality, (low)lvl 20 cap doesn't make the game better, it is just the wrong way to avoid unbalance |
If you were going to make ignorant arguments keep going all the way.... Why bring skills at all? Why not bring all the skills? Why shouldn't we have 10,000 health? Why can't we have infinite energy? These are obviously rediculous questions.
Some games are designed to have different long term goals. Even with a PvE environment the core of Guild Wars is really PvP. It isn't a standard MMO so the kinds of long term goals in this game aren't associated with unlimited leveling or power items. It is about building skill sets. This is why all armours and weapons for a certain class all have the same max stats (eg: 15 - 28 damage for a bow, or 11 - 22 for a caster weapon). This is why all classes max armour all have the same max stats (with flavor variations). There is no zel/dai to over enchant your armour and weapons because that isn't what the game is about.
I love PvE and role playing, but that isn't what this game is about. This isn't WoW or Lineage or EQ. I find it odd that people don't get the difference.
darkMishkin
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Originally Posted by Hell Raiser
Edit: btw canthan characters CAN do the tyrian 15 attribute quests.
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Loviatar
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Originally Posted by Wildi
then tell us why are we able to reach lvl 20 ? wouldn't lvl 10 be enough ? or lvl 5 fighting lvl 10 monsters ?
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Guild Wars, in contrast, is based around your skill as a player. Our maximum level is twenty, and you hit that very quickly, after about 20-30 hours of play. We call that 'The Point of Ascension'. Almost all of the content in the game and in the future Chapters is only available to Ascended characters, which means we don't have to worry about providing different levels of content. All the good stuff will be available to everyone. It's not our intent to force people onto the levelling up treadmill, so the level cap in Guild Wars is almost meaningless. |
the possibilities are identical as the relative power/damage levels never change.
all that does is raise the numbers as the balance stays the same.
get over inflation elitesm so you can go my level is bigger than yours.
Charqus
You CANNOT get more than 200 attrib points... question answered