Ecto price development - your opinion?

swiftygem

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

So, how do you think the price will develop, when currently it's barely 5k, 1k less than before Factions release. I do have Factions, but I barely play the missions/quests, so I really have no idea about the new materials and armors and how can they affect ecto or shard prices.
What I think is that people will make their way slowly from the "regular" Factions gameplay to areas like FoW and the price should go up again. I guess now it's still too early for that. I only have 12 ectos atm, but I really don't want to see their price drop from 60k to maybe 20k.

ange1

ange1

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

well i think it'll go up steadily in a month time, then news of chap 3 comes out and it'll drop slowly back to 5k ha

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

Because people realized that FoW armor is more time/effort/gold than its worth.

Not to mention..its so funny to see players with FoW armor who are still relatively horrid at the game.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Why should it go up?

Assasin FoW set sucks, and the others are not rehashed at all. Only the ritualist's is remotely worth buying. I'd say ecto prices will stay high for the sake of noobs only. It is worthless.

Aera

Aera

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Galactic President Superstar Mc [awsm]

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Don't count on the prices getting higher. There is a small chance, like when lots of people are done playing with their ritualists and assasins and want to get FoW armor for it For the rest...don't count on it!

swiftygem

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oh well, looks like I'll sell it now then. Damn, why didn't I start farming in UW and FoW earlier....

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

My opinion?

GOOD!

Glad the price is so low... I always wanted to get the FoW armor for my Ranger, but was unwilling, and unable to afford the insane prices of ectos. Remember when they were 13K each at one point!

Now I can buy them at 4-5K each. Which still makes me the very expensive when compared to other rare materials, but at least not at and overkill price.

I for one hope they stay at the price they are now. Sure it unvalues those's who farmed for them. But hey

Nexium

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

id actualy like to se the Ecto sky rocket inte price then it gives you a reason to go to UW for better wealth and it's allso more exciting getting ecto if it's worth alot more and besides the FoW armor is suppose to be hard to get ore else it whouldent be so uniq hope ecto goes up to 9-11k ore atleast that they add a new area in Chapter3 where you need Ecto ore add ecto fore some new 15k armor that requires ecto but not nearly as much as the one in FoW

ERMC

ERMC

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

i don't mind the price development even at ecto being 5k FoW armor is still the most expensive armor in the game to get. What decides the price of ecto is the players and the reason it's not high because the demand for it is not high. Only 2 classes were introduced and that meant only 2 new sets of FoW armor was introduced and not many people want them. Chapter 1 was out for a year and the people that wanted FoW armor for themselfs (like me) already have it. I do not see the ecto prices rising anymore it's a safer bet to assume the price will drop even more.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

the ecto at 5k is fair .. not ruining ppl, useful for 100+ trades and quite cheap for ppl crafting their Fow sets

ofc, i dont mind seeing it going up at all

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexium
id actualy like to se the Ecto sky rocket inte price then it gives you a reason to go to UW for better wealth and it's allso more exciting getting ecto if it's worth alot more and besides the FoW armor is suppose to be hard to get ore else it whouldent be so uniq hope ecto goes up to 9-11k ore atleast that they add a new area in Chapter3 where you need Ecto ore add ecto fore some new 15k armor that requires ecto but not nearly as much as the one in FoW
Well your idea has merit, do you have any idea how rare ectos drop in the UW or tombs of primeal kings? On a Tombs run only 1 may drop in a 45 min run, sometimes none, same goes or the UW.

I wouldn't be "excited" to get one... I'd be annoyed by the time taken to get one. Thus the reason farming gold and buying them is a bette option.

mushi

mushi

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

London

Organised Spam (OS)

I really think they need to make UW/Fow more accessible by Foreign characters, they need to make the factions only players know about FOW/UW. As i've met a lot of people who don't know UW or FOW. Then we'll get Chapter 3, which will make UW/FOW a long forgotten memory. Ecto prices sort of represent the popularity of these places...

Nexium

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Well your idea has merit, do you have any idea how rare ectos drop in the UW or tombs of primeal kings? On a Tombs run only 1 may drop in a 45 min run, sometimes none, same goes or the UW.

I wouldn't be "excited" to get one... I'd be annoyed by the time taken to get one. Thus the reason farming gold and buying them is a bette option.
Yes iam well aware how rare it is to get Ecto in Tomb's Ore Uw and besides ecto drop randomly so it can drop the first 10min ore 35min later all is random..it's a challenge to get the FoW armor if you have done everything in the game then you will get the FoW armor so you have something to do all that time and after you got your fow armor what are you going to do then this it's seems ppl are to tired to farm for ectos adn shard yes i know it takes Huge amount of time geting all those things but it's a part of the challange i think..

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexium
Yes iam well aware how rare it is to get Ecto in Tomb's Ore Uw and besides ecto drop randomly so it can drop the first 10min ore 35min later all is random..it's a challenge to get the FoW armor if you have done everything in the game then you will get the FoW armor so you have something to do all that time and after you got your fow armor what are you going to do then this it's seems ppl are to tired to farm for ectos adn shard yes i know it takes Huge amount of time geting all those things but it's a part of the challange i think..
I sitll don't see what is the 'challenge' in grinding the tombs or UW for hours praying for a ecto or shard to drop Not really my idea of fun, but hey

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Remember when they were 13K each at one point!
I got my Fissure when they were 13k+ each. Then they dropped.

demon dantes

demon dantes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

ny

Iyanden Wraithguard

Mo/Me

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mushi I really think they need to make UW/Fow more accessible by Foreign characters, they need to make the factions only players know about FOW/UW. As i've met a lot of people who don't know UW or FOW. Then we'll get Chapter 3, which will make UW/FOW a long forgotten memory. Ecto prices sort of represent the popularity of these places...
um why would you want this. it s one thing that they didn t have to buy a extra game to play it but now you want to spam to them to come to uw and fow? these areas should b what factions alone players are not allowed to access anet truelly messed up on this one.

Jiao Yang

Jiao Yang

Lunar Rabbit

Join Date: Dec 2005

Actually this is Transilvania, land of vampires and evil accents.

Anyways.. I think they wont go lower than they are now.. touch wood But they wont get much higher since FoW and UW are farmed a lot. I think Anet want to make it fairer for the average rich person, not just the super rich person

Arknow

Arknow

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Middle of Space, Corner of No and Where

Ell EFF GEE

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gotta remember with any game that has "expansions" that the newest one almost always cheesedicks those that come before, gotta raise the bar and change things up or people get bored and leave.

never bank on 1 item forever cause it -WILL- change over time

my 2 cp

edit: fixed my bad enrgish /~

Lepton CFd

Lepton CFd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Pantheon of Shadows [dei]

Mo/Me

Ectos will fluctuate between 4k and 6k. They will be at 6k about a month before Chapter III comes out, and then they will drop back down to 4k. However, after Chapter III, they might go down even more. Think about it, more and more people will be playing GW without the Prophecies campaign as later stand-alone chapters come out. Most people who have Prophecies will have FoW armor, and so maybe ectos will drop down to dangerously low levels...hm...

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

nice! now i can buy that HOD i always wanted....

as to why ectos are going town the drain? i have no clue! my option is all the newbies (no noobs) to the game don't need them and the market is flooded with them (or we have stacks of them in our storage) to go around. I mean when you traded away that mini pet for 100k + 90 ectos your just going reuse the ectos for more trades and not FOW. Right?

well just my 2 cents. I have 20 ectos tucked away in case they go back to 13k, but like sup abs and sub vig prices you never know -)

SpeedyKQ

SpeedyKQ

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

E/Me

I expect from here on out ectos will either remain stable or trend down.

The more new armors are introduced, the less likely that the FoW will be a player's personal favorite. Sure, some will want it only because it is more expensive, but many players prefer the new Factions armors 'cause they're so dang pretty.

Shadow Dragon

Shadow Dragon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Harrismith, South Africa

[SAGA]

W/Mo

true the new armors are pretty and another point comes to mind with fow armor. it's still expensive and hard to craft so but the stats are the same as any other armor in the game so i say either make fow easy to craft and drop the price a bit more or give it some better stats to go with the price tag.

Quajai

Quajai

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Colorado

Jade

R/

It's mostly because FoW (Obsidian) armor isn't in such high demand as before with all the extra armors available now. Some of the regular armors look better than the fissure armor anyway imo. Additionally, FoW armor is much more common now. I see someone with it everytime I play so it is not so "elite" to have it now as it once was. I don't see ecto going way up in price again unless there's a drastic change like additional FoW armor becoming available.

Parson Brown

Parson Brown

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

In ur base...

The one true [Hope]

E/

I haven't been good at guessing when things have bottomed out.

To prove the point, I'll show you my 6k Sup monk runes, 10k Sup absorb rune, 1.7k Jadite and my 15k enchanting axe mod.

If I had half a brain, I'd sell my ecto while I still can.

Seems most things have become so easy to get, there's not much worth actually paying for any more. I was in Kaining Center last night talking with some sellers. We were watching people selling max mods that used to fetch 20k+ for 5k and having trouble.

Energizer Deth Buni

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Near Atlanta GA

MVoA

N/Me

The Problem is the new Armors... Luxon 15k, Kur 15k, And Cantha 15k. I know that there are some new armors at FOW but how long is it going to before people get there. That should bring the Fissure materials up, but with the new threat of Chapter 3. I dont see anyone putting too much time into FOW armor (or money into it)

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

anyway, Anet's point is to be against farming and rich people
ex: nerfing the Hod sword and making new crafters that sell everything
look at the runes now ....

Anet wants stuff to be buyable even by noobs with 5k gold

dont be surprised if, at release of C3 u see ecto at 2k and supvigor at 5k
that d suck and the economy is slowly dying since u can get anything easily now. Like i said on another thread, this is the best way to fight against bots and ebay ... just make the gold useless and ppl wont buy it and bots ll stop themselves if the market is gone. if u cant control economy, destroy economy

Parson Brown

Parson Brown

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

In ur base...

The one true [Hope]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Witchblade
Like i said on another thread, this is the best way to fight against bots and ebay ... just make the gold useless and ppl wont buy it and bots ll stop themselves if the market is gone. if u cant control economy, destroy economy
The only problem I see with that market strategy is that they will probably lose a lot of real players too.

I've been playing GW for about a year and I have 5 characters pretty-much maxed out. There are no weapons I want and only my Rit needs her armor set (15k Luxon) finished. And I wouldn't consider myself rich by a longshot with 60k in the bank and collectors' weapons all around.

Once I finish factions, there won't be much left to do. I can't see myself playing the whole campaign with more than the 2 characters I have near the end as it is. And I don't know how much there will be to do when that's done.

Heh, maybe I finally will have "beat" Guild Wars.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

u are supposed to do pvp-only play ASAP

MDeshame

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

If Anet introduced it to the market as being worth 500g, then it should be sold and bought for around 500g. Not 100k +345 ectos, +4567 shards, +5 black dye, with a j00 f00kn N00b thrown in for free.

Make the merchants always carry the supplies and always at a set price.

If merchant is selling cloth for 8g, but will buy it cloth from you for 5g why the hell are players trying to sell cloth for 15g?

Don't give me your 2 month long, 9th grade economics course speach about supply and demand.

mrbb

mrbb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/

There is no reason to get FoW because the Factions armors look better and so will the next chapters armor. I was planning on buying FoW but changed my mind so I'm only holding 50 ectos and 50 shards...just in case A-net decides to update FoW designs or as I suggested in another post give FoW armor a special emote or something. But as right now, FoW armor is just something that says you spent a lot of money, it isn't even better looking than other armors, which is sad.

Cybah

Cybah

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Guardians Of Eternal Sands [GoeS]

W/

well. I purchased my warrior male fow armor some weeks ago...

... and it looks much better than every cantha+tyria 15k armor imho.

But I have to say, there are some female armors which look better than female fow armor (for example 15k cantha).

tick tack toe

tick tack toe

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

swords of night and day

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
My opinion?

GOOD!

Glad the price is so low... I always wanted to get the FoW armor for my Ranger, but was unwilling, and unable to afford the insane prices of ectos. Remember when they were 13K each at one point!

Now I can buy them at 4-5K each. Which still makes me the very expensive when compared to other rare materials, but at least not at and overkill price.

I for one hope they stay at the price they are now. Sure it unvalues those's who farmed for them. But hey
i rember the 13k price because i was the one selling 20 ectos at one point .

but IMO i think they will gradually go up to 7k because i am still working on getting my first char. (me SS/MM/order i varies to tombs,UW, and PVP). besides i think FoW is a wase of money but still fun to get. IMO

Cybah

Cybah

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Guardians Of Eternal Sands [GoeS]

W/

like 15k armor is "waste" of money too...

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Meh, I don't care anymore. It's not like I have the capital to try and play the stock market :P I had about 60 ecto and 50 shards before factions came out. After I saw the prices drop, instead of selling mine I bought more and made my monk a set of fissure.

What concerns me is the price of sigils. They're at an all-time low now... nobody needs guild halls, it seems. Anet should make a set of armor that's crafted from sigils. That sure would boost up the price <.<

Fluffyx

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by generik
Why should it go up?

Assasin FoW set sucks, and the others are not rehashed at all. Only the ritualist's is remotely worth buying. I'd say ecto prices will stay high for the sake of noobs only. It is worthless.
Agreed, the new classes FoW armor is nothing special. Ecto prices will probably stay where they are for awhile since most players who actually can afford FoW armor have it already. And the looks of FoW armor for most classes are far less detailed then the newer factions armor. IMO its just a bigger way to show off how much money you've made.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluffyx
Agreed, the new classes FoW armor is nothing special. Ecto prices will probably stay where they are for awhile since most players who actually can afford FoW armor have it already. And the looks of FoW armor for most classes are far less detailed then the newer factions armor. IMO its just a bigger way to show off how much money you hadmade.
There fixed it up for you

What I find amuse are those who grind day and night just so they can burn it all on one ugly set of armor. Seriously, nowadays whenever I see a stupid monk standing in town with his accordian collared FoW armor dyed black no less! I simply just laugh as I admire my new cute looking 15K Luxon's set

Divinus Stella

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

I got my mesmers set when they were at 16k each, then got my Rits and Eles for 5k each, bit stupid really, id like to see a more fixed value for materials.
I'm thinkin ecto will go up to 8-9k as FoW is still the best stuff and probably will stay that way unless chapter 3 has new FoW forge-type areas.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

imo will vary between 5-7k

i remember when ecto hit 16k+ (the good old days)

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

Never was able to get enough of either ecto or shards to make armor.......and with the new canthan armors, I dont really want to any more....this is probably the feeling of many people, so no demand for ectos then the cost goes down. In comparison look at the price of the monstrous claws...they went from 200 to 1.3k, and why? because the necro armor needs them as well as the ritualist.....now once all these characters move on past getting armors then the prices will drop again (I hope, still need one more claw).
So with the introduction of new armors and new areas, more people are buying different armors and not buying ectos....at least that is my theory for now.

Laibeus Lord

Laibeus Lord

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Philippines

Holy Order of the Light [HOL / Holy Order]

R/N

ectos are selling lower than 5k in the rare mat trader the past few days, was able to buy 19pcs. for around 3k.

to further slow down its drop, inform people about FoW/UW being accessible in Zun Ku Corridor that at least will "slow down" if not stop the drop.
and with Amber/Jade "ff" farming made even harder, it will also help somewhat. but in the long run, Amber/Jade, especially Amber, will be the new item-trading replacement for ectos.