Make me an offer - About trading morons

Hehe

I always make a habit of pm'ing these people with "1 gold" offers.

People actually buy weapons off of other players?

How silly.

I have to admit that I have done the whole "Make me an offer" bit quite a few times. When I have something I think is too nice to merchant, yet not perfect enough to actually put any effort into selling, I will sell for the first decent offer I get. It's not about trying to rip anyone off, it's about getting more than I would from the merchant, and someone gets something they want for a price they can handle. I've had people offer me too much, and I tell them. It may sound insane, but when I'm selling stuff like that I'm not out to make a bunch of money - I'm just trying to find an alternative to the merchant.

I sell majority of my items on the auction. But those few times when I don't and I'm WTSing somewhere, I tend to ask for the buyer to make an offer. I'm aware of the value myself but I really hate haggling. When the buyer makes an offer, I know they are willing to pay that amount and then it's either deal or continuing shouting WTS for me. Sometimes I even sell the items for lower than usual price if the buyer made an offer for it and I'm in the mood to sell it for that.
If the buyer refuses to make an offer, I'll set the price and won't haggle from that. Offers for lower price after this will get a "You should have offered that when I first asked for it" comment and nothing more from me.

Yeah, I really hate haggling.

I'll ask someone to make me an offer once in a while, but normally I'll sell it for whatever they say as long as it's not too absurd, I'm not that concerned about maximizing my profit.

If someone's selling something and asks me to offer, I'll usually do a price check and offer 10-20% less, then work from there.

The thing I hate is people who just say 'NO' when you offer a price that's too low. Jesus, haven't you ever heard of haggling? The most annoying people are the ones who think that every price and offer are unchangeable.

well i sit on the side of the fence that will no longer offer and will never buy anything in game w/o a price attached to it. someone was selling the strongroot shelter. i liked the skin so i bid . seeings how it was a new green i really had not seen around i said 100k he sold it right away ran to me even lol. then i found out they were only 45k lol but i didn t say anything lol just chalked it up as a loss lol.

well lowballing is pretty annoying.. and window shoppers are even worse- I just set a reasonable price when I sell and you would'nt believe how many lowballers pm you saying something like- you noob that's not worth that much.. or EDIT no.. then 2 seconds later you have peeps going over the c/o towards the b/o to buy it (who actually know the price of the item being sold).. In factions especially the window shopping is really bad- I'll show the items in trade but alot of these poor guys just have no money and love to waste everyones time.. not saying the original poster is like that- 55k for hydra is a decent offer and the seller should have a c/o and b/o set.. he was just a noob with no money looking for a big score- good traders sell thier items at peak times and usually get what they are after pretty quickly.. someone selling too high and not able to negotiate just move on

there are 4 different sellers:

1) "WTS X" <- often a new player who will sell his item cheap when you ask for price.

2) "WTS X - Y k + Z ectos" <- often negationable :-)

3) "WTS X - whisper offer" <- seller is waiting for an exact amount of gold offered and he hopes someone offers too much. No chance for you to buy it cheap.

4) "WTS X - whisper offer. NO NEWBS!!!111111" <- often waiting for a (too) high offer, ignore them.

WAY too many have no clue what the word haggling means. They ask you to offer, and of course, you start low, and then they just flame you/ignore you. What the hell? Then THEY are supposed to say the price they want. Then you continue haggling until you agree on a price.

It is sadly so rare to find a person that actually knows what "haggling" means.

FTW.

I was selling a nice grab bag of perfect and near-perfect upgrades last night, and had quite a few whispers going on at once. I don't like to get picky over a 20-30% difference in price, so I was just asking for offers on all of them. As long as the offer was somewhat reasonable (50% of the "normal" price, usually: I sold a perfect hale staff head for 5k ), I accepted. If someone offered me too much, I politely told him that he was paying too much and told him what a more reasonable price to pay would be.

To those of you who don't answer people who ask for an offer: lots of us either don't know the value of what we're selling or are just trying to dump stuff for the first reasonable price we come across. Don't hate.

@cybah
I have recently had the misfortune to identify a 5th type for your list there:

Watching LA trade spam I spot a fair price for a nice item I was after, Having agreed to a trade, my trade window pops open and I enter my side of the deal. *pop* window closes and the player runs off upto storage.
Heh I thought "well we've all left something in storage before" and while I waited for the trade window to open again I rolled a ciggy...

...Ok so, i've sparked up already and still no trade.
I unmute trade and local again to see this person is back offering the same item for the same price but with a new addition to the adline:

"...(luxons only)"

My kurzick armour clad ranger was left speechless

^^lol

That's some dedication there, to give up a sale and go back to spamming WTS...

You dont seriously, tell him hes overpaying do you ? .

If im selling i usually do WTS: blah whisper me.

They usually say "how much" i add 5-10k onto what i think is a reasonable price, if they dont buy ill reduce to normal.

If im buying and want an item ill usually knock 5 or 10 off the asking price and say thats all i got which is complete BS, they usually feel sorry and take the bait .

And thats how to make 200k profit on mini pets in 3 days.

this has long been a major annoyance for me to the point where if i post a WTB message, i usually include the following :

PM me with pricing, do not ask me to make an offer... just give me a price range

its like every seller in the game assumes everyoine is idiots or something .. and then you do get a quote and its twice or worse thew value of the item... 85K, u buy ?

right now im pretty much not shopping in game, its pointless

Yeah, I have plenty of times.

I'm not saying I never make killer deals - I also had a field day with pets. For example I traded a kirin (which I didn't much care for) for 100k + a jungle troll.

nice, i think my best was buying a jungle troll for 45k then selling it for 75k.

I've found pretty much everyone wants me to make the first offer, so I play along. If I'm buying I offer half of the max I'm willing to pay, If I'm selling I ask for double the least I'll take. I usually end up at a fair price that way.

I used to start out naming a fair price but that didn't work out so well.

I can't buy or sell in game right now, It is just too convoluted. I think that the "value" on items should more closely resemble what they are worth. I mean if a Victo's maul is worth 3-5k why does it say it's value is 35-39g?

I ALWAYS state "whisper offer" when I am selling anything. Why? Because if I set a price, just about everyone ignores it. There are just too many players looking to rip off a seller for the fast buy low sell high. If I want to sell something and state the fair market value, pretty much no one cares to even make a counter offer.

But it doesn't matter, if I say "whisper offer" I get the same thing "how much do you want for it?" Doesn't anyone have any reading skills?

I don't care what the offer is, it could be 1gp, but at least we've started a dialog instead of closing off a potential sale because my asking price is not the bargain everyone is looking for.

If someone's offer is much too low, I'll make sure they are aware of what I was looking for in the sale. If they offer 30K and I was looking for something in the neighborhood of 50K, I'll let them know. They can either take it futher from there, or just say "no thanks" and move along.

But I'll spend the time to negotiate and haggle. I'm never looking to rip anyone off, and I don't really worry about what the buyer does with the item I've sold afterwards. If he makes a killing off it, kudo's to him. I've never sold anything and felt bad about it afterwards. I'm sure I've sold items well below market value on occasion, but I have enough money to last for a lifetime, why be a jerk in game about it?

This is why we need an auction house so bad... I've seen awful open beta games with a better trading system than this one. Not even considering trading anything until it happens. If I need something that bad I'll go get it myself.


Saying that, the Hydra is worth 55-80k ? Hmmmmm.