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KillerGuitar666

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Eternal Sorrows

R/Me

19 May 2006 at 19:42 - 1

ok...some people might think this idea sucks, some people might love it, but here goes....

Green Armor

For Example...You have just killed The Victo Guy....and whats this, he drops "Victo's Helmet" or "Victo's Leggings" these could drop with the rare or well know bosses, and they would be very rare, and only one piece would drop at a time. That way they would still be very rare, and reserved for the better player out there, or the rich ones

These would have special enhanced ability, like maybe, extra dmg or an extra speed boost, let me know what you think, my guildies think it would be a pretty sweet idea

Tarun

Technician's Corner Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2006

The TARDIS

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19 May 2006 at 19:49 - 2

Lootable armor. About time!

/signed

frickett

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Shinigami Keys [SHIN]

R/Mo

19 May 2006 at 19:51 - 3

The only thing is I don't think you can equip dropped armor can you? I guess it is an ok idea, I am all for rare and different drops, but to implement this it would probably have to salvage into something. I don't know.

Tarun

Technician's Corner Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2006

The TARDIS

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19 May 2006 at 19:54 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by frickett

The only thing is I don't think you can equip dropped armor can you? I guess it is an ok idea, I am all for rare and different drops, but to implement this it would probably have to salvage into something. I don't know.

Currently you can't salvage or dye green items. Hopefully they'd let you dye the armor.

Replicant

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/Me

19 May 2006 at 19:58 - 5

i'd be happy to see that, it's actually one of the many things i've been thinkin about.
right now everyone pretty much has the exact same armor, and think it would add some variety to it.

/signed

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

19 May 2006 at 20:00 - 6

The only thing I have in head is the umbalance, more farming and more other thing. Like in your example: running Boost. A dream for Runner for constant running. Damage boost, maybe a +5 for each armor but gives +25 for the full set for each attack.

Ello +42 barrage.

I dont sign for now.

Tarun

Technician's Corner Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2006

The TARDIS

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19 May 2006 at 20:13 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francis Demeules

The only thing I have in head is the umbalance, more farming and more other thing. Like in your example: running Boost. A dream for Runner for constant running. Damage boost, maybe a +5 for each armor but gives +25 for the full set for each attack.

Ello +42 barrage.

I dont sign for now.

Since when are games supposed to be totally balanced? Every game you play you are trying to get better than other people. Why let someone come in and within a short amount of time they're just like you.

How is that fun? The OP's post is original, adds new content, new challenge, more things to do and it's something that would be worth your time getting.

KESKI

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/

19 May 2006 at 20:15 - 8

good pve idea, This will keep treasure hunters busy for a sometime.
but if A-net actualy do this, they need to do the same for pvp char....then it come down to this "this boot of mine is special..how??"

I am all for better looking armor, and more choice=P but for a game like GW that is all about fair competition, balance should come first=v=
as long as you to keep everything in balance, I will sign

KESKI

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/

19 May 2006 at 20:23 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarun

Since when are games supposed to be totally balanced? Every game you play you are trying to get better than other people. Why let someone come in and within a short amount of time they're just like you.

How is that fun? The OP's post is original, adds new content, new challenge, more things to do and it's something that would be worth your time getting.

Since Guild War

Seriously, if your idea of fun is build on "I play longer then you therefore I should outpower you noob", "I do more treasure hunt then you therefore I should kill you in 1 hit" then you are in the wrong game

I am surprise you actualy willing to stay and play this boring anti-godly item game.

And the op's idea is not original=P WoW did that, EQ did that, Diablo2 did that, load of other games did that.

MDeshame

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

19 May 2006 at 20:43 - 10

I think a better idea for a green item would be the "I win" item, only one drops period. Equipting said item does just what the name says, you win.

PvP? Yup, you win.
PvE? Yup, you win.
Farming? Yup, you win.
Everything? Yup, you win.

Now, to keep it fair for everyone, since only one drops, it should go to player that posted this message. Yup, I win!

kaya

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

NBK

19 May 2006 at 21:12 - 11

/signed I would love to see armor drops in this game. :O

EndoftheSyringe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Apathetic Eaters of Babies

W/Mo

19 May 2006 at 21:15 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francis Demeules

The only thing I have in head is the umbalance, more farming and more other thing. Like in your example: running Boost. A dream for Runner for constant running. Damage boost, maybe a +5 for each armor but gives +25 for the full set for each attack.

Ello +42 barrage.

I dont sign for now.

No, no. I think you should ONLY get the bonus if you have the WHOLE armor set. Instead of "+3" for each piece, it will be like "+15 damage (requires set)"

And to keep people from buying, selling, trading, or using them in PvP, they can be customized on drop.

Tarun

Technician's Corner Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2006

The TARDIS

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19 May 2006 at 21:41 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by EndoftheSyringe

No, no. I think you should ONLY get the bonus if you have the WHOLE armor set. Instead of "+3" for each piece, it will be like "+15 damage (requires set)"

And to keep people from buying, selling, trading, or using them in PvP, they can be customized on drop.

Thing about customized on drop is that what would happen if you're an ele and it drops a warrior helm customized to your ele?

EndoftheSyringe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Apathetic Eaters of Babies

W/Mo

19 May 2006 at 22:06 - 14

they should be customized to your account. that would rock

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

19 May 2006 at 22:18 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarun

How is that fun? The OP's post is original, adds new content, new challenge, more things to do and it's something that would be worth your time getting.

Not original at all. Like KESKI said. Even Dungeon Siege 1&2 are based on equipments.

When it was a new challenge to get green weapons now? Since the buff on the bosses? I dont think so.

I agree for the new content, but I disagree to make Guild Wars based on equipments and not on skills. This is another reason I stay neutral in this thread.

If they put this in GW, Anet must put them both PvE and PvP (maybe not the style if they do that but anyway). Perhaps you havent green weapons in PvP, but you can make them with mods you have unlocked. So they will put these armor in the list too.

Secondly, you think about a green armors when many players got rumors about Chapter 3: NightFall and new professions. Maybe the armor you think will be in Chapter 3 anyway.

Instead saying /signed and /not signed when you see a thread like this, think the overall in GW: The economy, the places, what happens if, etc.

/Neutral

Only you all can convince me if its good or not.

kaya

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

NBK

19 May 2006 at 22:29 - 16

I've always wanted to see more items and randomization with them in GW. yes, GW is about skills, but I think it would be awesome to have it expanded into skills, and more.

Across The Battle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Jersey

W/

19 May 2006 at 22:52 - 17

This exact concept: /notsigned

The general idea: /signed

My arguement is such:
The exact concept as it is, is very unrefined and crude at the moment.
The general idea however does add new stuff to the game, but the fear for me at least is, if they have special stats, that would induce a lot more farm and grind. If its simply for aschetics and bragging rights then go for it >.>

Meh thats just my opinion, I could be wrong...

healthsoldier0570

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Crystal Desert.

Mo/W

19 May 2006 at 22:56 - 18

I think green armor would be cool. The bad thing is, most green weapons or focus items or shields are perfect. So, the armor would be too good. I know that seems impossible to have too good of armor, at least in PvP anyways. It might be ok for PvE, but people who can't get it in PvP are at a huge disadvantage. (i am saying this assuming the armor would be unlockable in PvP, not given to you right away like the other armor)

Caldec

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Buffalo, NY

19 May 2006 at 23:08 - 19

well i think the idea is alright but just another idea why make the armor have special bonuses why cant it just look awsome but have the same stats as any other high end armor that would still give people an incentive to get it for the looks with out changing the entire game dynamic and with the new factions armor with the +health and that maby just a combinaion of effects on one piece but the two effects are lowered so as not to make it supremly better but slightly

/my 2 cents

BlueNovember

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

WTS GW2 items for Zkey

Mo/

19 May 2006 at 23:46 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by EndoftheSyringe

they should be customized to your account. that would rock

that defeats the whole point of customising them to a pve char so they can't be used in pve...

Thinking about it, even that notion is flawed. PVE chars can get to HA. Hell, I play in HA with a pve monk. He's no worse than a PVP char as he has perfect customised gear, and I can roll faster than anoyone else.

Phoenix Avenger

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Wisconsin

Eternal Knights

E/Mo

20 May 2006 at 00:05 - 21

the only problem with this is customization, currently all armor is customized as soon as you get it. so I'm assuming they would have to have these customized as well (to keep from having to change too much programming). then what happens if a warrior helmet drops for a ritualist? not much of a point is it?

/undecided but leaning toward not signed

Rogmar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

W/

20 May 2006 at 01:17 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix Avenger

the only problem with this is customization, currently all armor is customized as soon as you get it. so I'm assuming they would have to have these customized as well (to keep from having to change too much programming). then what happens if a warrior helmet drops for a ritualist? not much of a point is it?

/undecided but leaning toward not signed

Maybe have a certain 2 or 3 sets of armor for the class you have, everytime the boss gets killed everyone gets one piece of armor according to their class, you can always get duplicates but whatever

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

20 May 2006 at 01:40 - 23

This reminds me of RUNESCAPE!

That place in that like swampy dead place to the east....Where you go into that place and run through mazes and kill the uber hard 4 guys to get there weps/armour (Yes, I played RS as a member.)
ANet would have to make these armour uncustomized though...I personally dont see the point in all armour being customized, maybe cuz of all the look alikes...
/signed

EDIT: I think that the green armours should have stats of other armour, just rare skins.

ie Victo's Platemail, Tanzits Gladiators, etc.

ShadowStorm

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Take me where I cannot stand.

The Better Part of Valor

W/N

20 May 2006 at 01:49 - 24

Well, I like this idea, except it would unbalance the game if they made the armor drop with any bonuses that aren't already found on armor at the crafters. It would be a new way to release armor with a new skin, though, and that would be nice. Don't they already do stuff like this in MMO games?

/signed if it doesn't unbalance anything.

P.S. in response to the guy who said you can't wear armor that is dropped in explorable areas, that could easily be fixed by adding an NPC that will customize the armor for you.

unda dawg

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Narnia

Twilight Saraphim [TS]

E/Me

20 May 2006 at 01:58 - 25

i think armor shoodnt be customized and there shood be armor drops like in WoW.

-more variety
-can improve ur armor as u go along instead of having crappy armor then saving up for more cuz then ull b behind.

also then when u get an armor drop u cood sell it

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

20 May 2006 at 03:28 - 26

Compare this idea to the enhanced armor equips for some professions.

Warriors get the KD gloves..
Necros get the MM boots...
etc... etc...

They were given that to help balance them up to the standards of the more popular attributes. Although this may seem like a good idea I think there are many other things that should be done before this.

healthsoldier0570

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Crystal Desert.

Mo/W

20 May 2006 at 03:33 - 27

I don't know if you have ever heard of FoW armor, but that is armor that has the same stats but looks really cool. You must be pretty noob not to know that. I am sorry to say that, but it is true. If you need any help with the game or anything, PM in the game this Wednesday after 3:00 PM (i live in arizona). I would be happy to help you with some missions or quests.

BrotherGilburt

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

USA

Mo/

20 May 2006 at 03:56 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerGuitar666

These would have special enhanced ability, like maybe, extra dmg or an extra speed boost, let me know what you think, my guildies think it would be a pretty sweet idea

Extra damage or speed boost from armor would over power characters. I'm not aginst it. Green armor would be kool, but with the upgrades on it you suggested it would be way over powered. May it could be like fissure armor and have normal mods on it, but have a really kool look.

Brother Gilburt

KillerGuitar666

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Eternal Sorrows

R/Me

20 May 2006 at 05:05 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Across The Battle

This exact concept: /notsigned

The general idea: /signed

My arguement is such:
The exact concept as it is, is very unrefined and crude at the moment.
The general idea however does add new stuff to the game, but the fear for me at least is, if they have special stats, that would induce a lot more farm and grind. If its simply for aschetics and bragging rights then go for it >.>

Meh thats just my opinion, I could be wrong...

It's deffinatley for the braggin rights...just the enhancements would be an extra bonus

KillerGuitar666

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Eternal Sorrows

R/Me

20 May 2006 at 05:07 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by healthsoldier0570

I don't know if you have ever heard of FoW armor, but that is armor that has the same stats but looks really cool. You must be pretty noob not to know that. I am sorry to say that, but it is true. If you need any help with the game or anything, PM in the game this Wednesday after 3:00 PM (i live in arizona). I would be happy to help you with some missions or quests.

and no......im not a total noob, i just dont feel like paying a whole lot of extra money I just thought it would be fun running around with special armor you couldnt buy from a trader. If you know what i mean

Tarun

Technician's Corner Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2006

The TARDIS

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22 May 2006 at 13:28 - 31

Friendly bump to allow lootable and green armor.

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

22 May 2006 at 13:37 - 32

No, due to why the hell do we want some rare uber drop. Over powerment, to its capabilites, and if full set, sooo NO.

The guy talking about ONLY having whole set you get the armor bonuses, it sounds like Diablo 2 LOD.

As to rare skin to armor alone and same stats as regular armor, thats agreed.

mqstout

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Pittsburgh

22 May 2006 at 13:38 - 33

No armor loot, please. I don't play WoW for a reason.

Priest Of Sin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne.

Live For The Swarm [ZERG]

Me/N

22 May 2006 at 15:40 - 34

OR, we could just like... ya know... give people the Night Elves, Dwarves, Tauren, ect, take away all the towns, give people the option to form parties anywhere, turn the graphics cartoon-ey, and call it World Of Warcraft.

Wait...