Most popular healer weapon choice?

Max Spider X

Max Spider X

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Ok, so I just started a new monk and is currently using Brohn's Staff(which cost me a fortune back then when I got it for my Ranger UW farming). I thought it would be uber for the price, but when I looked at the other possible choices, I came to the conclusion that this is actually pretty poor in comparison.

Quote:
brohns staff:
energy+10
half healing cast 20%
hp+30
hp+30
reduce bleeding 20%
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brohns wand+stonehart:
energy+12 req9
half cast 10%
half healing recharge 20%
half healing recharge 20%
healing+1 20%
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wayward wand+straw:
energy+12 req9
energy +5>50
half healing recharge 20%
half healing recharge 20%
hp+30
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Wenslauss' Faith
Energy +10
energy+5
half cast 10%
half recharge 10%
hp+30 Question, if both the wand and off-hand have the "half healing recharge 20%" bonus, do they become stackable to make it a 40%?

So what would you guys suggest?

BrotherGilburt

BrotherGilburt

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

USA

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Use either...

Brohns Holy Rod+Stonehart:
energy+12 req9
half cast 10%
half healing recharge 20%
half healing recharge 20%
healing+1 20%

or


(this cost me about 40k, crafted it for 12k, then got a 20% enchant for 26k)

Brother Gilburt

Rukmedes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/W

They become 36%, iirc.

And, when I play healer, I use a 20/20 staff, since healing spells tend to be 3/4 second and more, with +60 HP.

When on a healer, cast time is more important then the recharge, imo.

Savio

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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Originally Posted by Rukmedes
They become 36%, iirc. 32% half, 4% quarter.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...28&postcount=8

Porphyre

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Brohn's holy rod + Healing Anhk 20/20 healing

BrotherGilburt

BrotherGilburt

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Originally Posted by notoriousbig_pj
Where can I find this crafter?

Mooge. After you beat shiro you go to a zone where this crafter is. He also crafts +5 energy hammers, daggers, axes, and bows. All cost 10k craft and various materials.

Brother Gilburt

Maxiemonster

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1. Katana of Fortitude (Energy +5, Health +30), The Soulstone (Divine Favor +1 (20% chance), Health +45 (while enchanted)).

2. Garbok's Cane (20/20 Inspiration Magic), Jeweled Chalice (20/20 Inspiration Magic).

3. Holy Rod (Energy +15, -1 Energy regenaration), Jeweled Chalice (Energy +15, -1 Energy regenaration, Health +30).

4. Katana of Fortitude (Damage +15%, Energy -5, Health +30), Scroll (Energy -2, Armor +5, Health +25).

Switching ftw! It really makes a Monk alot more effective. I wonder why so few switch..

Rukmedes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/W

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1. Mungri's Flame (Energy +5 (While Enchanted), Halves skill recharge of spells (10%)), Straw Effigy (Recharge Inspiration (20% chance), Health +30).

2. Garbok's Cane (20/20 Inspiration Magic), Jeweled Chalice (20/20 Inspiration Magic).

3. Katana of Fortitude (Energy +5, Health +30), Jeweled Chalice (Energy +15, -1 Energy regenaration, Health +30).

4. Ironclaw (Damage +15%, Energy -5, Health +30), Scroll (Energy -2, Armor +5, Health +25). Changed it to what I use.

Of course, predix doesn't matter on your sword, and I also have a 20% protection recharge Wayward wand, but I like Mungri's Flame more.

As for 3. I use a Katana instead of the 15 wand, because this way you get 2 pips of regen instead of 1. One pip of Regen > 10 mana.

Nanii

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House of Vahn

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I use a 20/20 wand and a 20/20 focus. Can be made in Leviathan pits.

Kiram

Kiram

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Ariminvm

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A Collector's choice!

BlueNovember

BlueNovember

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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Is there any reason why you would *not* take a sword/focus combo instead of a rod/focus as your main heal set?
I don't really see much of an arguement.
+5 more energy and 20% enchant/30hp
vs
2 from (+1 skill / 20 cast / 20 recharge / 30hp / 30hp) with a rod.

On a bonder divine cast/recharge is pretty key, so perhaps you'd want a double 20/20 setup. For WoH, RC or SB/Infuse monks, the extra energy wins hands down every time imo.

(Speaking as a relatively inexperienced R3 monk)


Edit: Must really stop loading tabs then replying hours after...
Kiram, I have an Energy+5 head for sale =)



Quote:
Originally Posted by Rukmedes
1. Mungri's Flame (Energy +5 (While Enchanted), Halves skill recharge of spells (10%)), Straw Effigy (Recharge Inspiration (20% chance), Health +30).
2. Garbok's Cane (20/20 Inspiration Magic), Jeweled Chalice (20/20 Inspiration Magic).
3. Katana of Fortitude (Energy +5, Health +30), Jeweled Chalice (Energy +15, -1 Energy regenaration, Health +30).
4. Ironclaw (Damage +15%, Energy -5, Health +30), Scroll (Energy -2, Armor +5, Health +25). So...
1 - General healing
2 - Using E drain?
3 - Emergency healing swap up set
4 - Negative energy swap down set

right?

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]


Had this old thing forever, it's still my main/only healer weapon. Built it myself from a collector's staff I got from someone in Piken when I was just a wee n00b. I wouldn't mind a healing prayers wraping instead though...

I also have K's Refuge for when I go Prot.

I like staves more than wands/foci for the sex appeal. Besides, I have been using a staff since pre, it's just easier.

BlueNovember

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vahn Roi
I like staves more than wands/foci for the sex appeal. You can't seriously be saying that a twisted bit of wood is more awesome than a long smooth Katana?

Kiram

Kiram

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Ariminvm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueNovember
Edit: Must really stop loading tabs then replying hours after...
Kiram, I have an Energy+5 head for sale =) Oh! Now I must change my pic!

Rukmedes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/W

BlueNovember, you're spot on

Also, I see no reason as to why you would take a stave over a wand/foci since +5 energy wands and weapons are so easy to get. I would take a stave on a healer simply for the 20/20.

On a boonprot, take a wand and a foci. With a wand and a foci, you can get 7 more mana then with a staff, and still get the same bonuses. You can take either a 20% recharge wand, +1 something offhand, 20% recharge offhand, 45 or 30 HP. I don't see a competition. Wand and Foci is hands down better then a stave on a boon prot.

BlueNovember

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rukmedes
BlueNovember, you're spot on
Aye, ty for confirmation

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rukmedes
I would take a stave on a healer simply for the 20/20. I don't follow. You could get 20/20 with a focus.
The only reason for a staff is if you want a fortitude prefix, which a sword can't offer. Ideal sword/focus combinations seem to be able to comfortably match staffs, with the convinience bennifit of being able to mix and match foci with the sword.

Rukmedes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/W

Exactly, with a staff, you can get 20/20 and +60 HP. Which you cannot get with wand/foci. And 20/20 is KEY for a healer, 60 HP is just really really nice to have.

deluxe

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I mainly use wayward wand + straw effigy, both recharge on inspiration. I just like boonprotting in pve and pvp. When i need longer enchants i change to the katana.

When full healing i use a +5^50/20 faster cast and a 20/20 healing focus, or the +1/20% +30hp focus. Faster casting is nice on healing monks because most healing skills have long casting time.

when fighting spike teams i grab my +30 +30 hp staff or the +5 +5 armor staff depending on what kind of spike they are. (obsidian and blood are armor ignoring)

just a few of the monk items i use:

Max Spider X

Max Spider X

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hey guys, I am confused. Why is sword an ideal choice for monk?

Rukmedes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/W

A sword can give you 5 mana and 30 HP.

Max Spider X

Max Spider X

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Doesn't a wand give you 12 energy?

Rukmedes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/W

Offhand does, not wand. So, sword + offhand = 17.

BlueNovember

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Quote:
Originally Posted by deluxe
I mainly use wayward wand + straw effigy, both recharge on inspiration. I just like boonprotting in pve and pvp. When i need longer enchants i change to the katana.

When full healing i use a +5^50/20 faster cast and a 20/20 healing focus, or the +1/20% +30hp focus. Faster casting is nice on healing monks because most healing skills have long casting time.

when fighting spike teams i grab my +30 +30 hp staff or the +5 +5 armor staff depending on what kind of spike they are. (obsidian and blood are armor ignoring)
Awesome. I'd not even considered bringing an anti-spike staff. That's a really good idea.

Quote: It's not, but for certain purposes its useful, because you can fit mods onto it like enchanting, and you have the unconditional +5 energy.

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Originally Posted by deluxe
just a few of the monk items i use:
Very nice collection. Will have to get me yet more collectors items I think =)
(I already have a bag full of weapons... Sigh.)
Right, a few quesitons.
1) Any particular reason why your Katana is ebon? Sounds cooler?
2) Why have the earth scroll that gives you +1 energy net? Wouldn't a no-req candy-cane sheild be better? +5 more armour > 25hp?
3) When "full healing", in what situations would you go from 20/20 to +30hp/ +1heal 20%?
4) Do you use Wenslauss' Faith for mix divine/prot/heal builds? Or does it serve some other purpose?

TIA.
BlueNovember (who is determined to find the definitive best set of monk gear)

deluxe

deluxe

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Spider X
Hey guys, I am confused. Why is sword an ideal choice for monk?
1) Any particular reason why your Katana is ebon? Sounds cooler?
2) Why have the earth scroll that gives you +1 energy net? Wouldn't a no-req candy-cane sheild be better? +5 more armour > 25hp?
3) When "full healing", in what situations would you go from 20/20 to +30hp/ +1heal 20%?
4) Do you use Wenslauss' Faith for mix divine/prot/heal builds? Or does it serve some other purpose? 1. no, just had that mod lying around wasting space in my inventory
2. because you dont meet the req, the scroll gives you only 3 energy, -5 makes -2 energy
3. when i get some dp (i also swap out headgears, superior/minor)
4. i hardly use wenslauss faith actually, but yes that would be it.

Nanii

Nanii

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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House of Vahn

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Im also confused about that.. more energy but come on, isnt sword a typicall "Solo" weapon?

I use same as Deluxe's picture: A 20/20 rod 20/20 icon
or the +1 healing, which I really dont think is necessary since it only give +1 occationally. I use it for the health. Also a 20/20 5^50 rod (there are 5 below 50 also to craft). Which works the same as the sword. But I dont like the appereance of a sword on a monk.

I find an icon and a rod the most usefull. Never did like staffs or swords in this matter. Being able to ask rebirth in 2 sec does the work for me. Also while casting other spells you dont even see the character move from its possition sometimes. It just goes to fast

BlueNovember

BlueNovember

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanii
Im also confused about that.. more energy but come on, isnt sword a typicall "Solo" weapon?

I use same as Deluxe's picture: A 20/20 rod 20/20 icon
or the +1 healing, which I really dont think is necessary since it only give +1 occationally. I use it for the health. Also a 20/20 5^50 rod (there are 5 below 50 also to craft). Which works the same as the sword. But I dont like the appereance of a sword on a monk.

I find an icon and a rod the most usefull. Never did like staffs or swords in this matter. Being able to ask rebirth in 2 sec does the work for me. Also while casting other spells you dont even see the character move from its possition sometimes. It just goes to fast Heh. Rebirth is a prot spell, so you'd need double 20 cast prot, which isn't that useful for prot spells as (apart from Aegis) they're all pretty fast casts. Besides, as you're talking about PVE, there's no need to quickly rebirth post fight, as you have all the time in the world.
Still, uber speedy casting is indeed fun.

Staffs are useful if you want double hp mods,
Swords are useful if you want a 20% longer enchant, unconditional +5 energy AND use a focus,
Rods/Wands are useful if you want double 20/20.
...and Katanas look awesome anywhere =) My PVP monk uses an FDS. Probably should buy/farm an IDS for even more l33tness.

Max Spider X

Max Spider X

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Thanks all for the informative posts. So an axe will do the job too as long as it has the +5 energy mod?

Rukmedes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/W

Axe, sword, same thing. Just ascetics.

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueNovember
You can't seriously be saying that a twisted bit of wood is more awesome than a long smooth Katana? In my humble opinion; yes. First off, a katana is a two handed sword, so to be holding it with something in your left hand looks odd to me. Secondly, having a katana when you don't even use it to attack seems pointless to me.

One a final note, to me having a staff as apposed to a wand/katana+focus looks more "graceful". For monks specifically having a staff reminds me of the Shaolin and their various poll arm weapons.

That's just my taste anyway, take it or leave it.

kosh

kosh

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by deluxe
I mainly use wayward wand + straw effigy, both recharge on inspiration. I just like boonprotting in pve and pvp. When i need longer enchants i change to the katana.

When full healing i use a +5^50/20 faster cast and a 20/20 healing focus, or the +1/20% +30hp focus. Faster casting is nice on healing monks because most healing skills have long casting time.

when fighting spike teams i grab my +30 +30 hp staff or the +5 +5 armor staff depending on what kind of spike they are. (obsidian and blood are armor ignoring)

just a few of the monk items i use:

wow,amzing list....yeah i have to say you get it all,making myself one.

the only thing im having hard time to find is the +5 20% rod..any clue wher i can get it?

btw my only as will be rod and offhand +15 -1 when thing get thick with e- denial teams up aginst you.

Nadji

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Best Booner Main Set (sry for french pic) :



With 1 Sup and Armor +10 while enchanted, u get 80 armor and 530 hp

mighty xxl

mighty xxl

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Team Harmless[TH]

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Yes, i am curious too where u can get a rod like that...

+5>50 and 20% fast cast

U can't get it in Tyria, that i know for sure. It is a collector from Cantha or a craftable item in Cantha?

I have to get my hands on one of those

Steve

Rukmedes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nadji
Best Booner Main Set (sry for french pic) :



With 1 Sup and Armor +10 while enchanted, u get 80 armor and 530 hp pre-searing sword? I have that same setup

deluxe

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Quote:
Originally Posted by mighty xxl
Yes, i am curious too where u can get a rod like that...

+5>50 and 20% fast cast

U can't get it in Tyria, that i know for sure. It is a collector from Cantha or a craftable item in Cantha?

I have to get my hands on one of those

Steve i dont remember, sorry.

deluxe

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nadji
Best Booner Main Set (sry for french pic) :



With 1 Sup and Armor +10 while enchanted, u get 80 armor and 530 hp Why not swap your headgear after you put on Boon? That way you get 605 hp

Markaedw

Markaedw

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I think I will just stick with my Wenslauss Faith

Seef II

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Monk 1
Slot 1: 10/10 wand, Shadestone (looking for Byzzr's Benediction)
Slot 2: 10/10 staff, +5 AL, +30 health
Slot 3: Gordac's blood stuff or pulling bow or +15/-1 gear
Slot 4: Negative energy

Monk 2
Slot 1: 20 FR, 5<50 wand, 20/20 focus
Slot 2: 20/20 staff, junk +e and +hp mods (I need Wenslauss' Faith)
Slot 3: +15/-1 gear
Slot 4: Negative energy