Luxons Repeatables
*Supply Run* (Insert Nerf Bat here) Now we get bodyblocked at everyturn.
Not only that, all they attack with are knockdowns and degens. If by chance ya do make it there without kiting angry carps ect. scuttle fish are attacking your npc. So ya can't turn your supplies in.
*Recruiting*
Bai Pasuu Reach Collect your four dimwhits who trail sooo far behind they can't help but aggro every mob....TAs if being spread out soo far wasn't bad enough. Then we put the weakest lowest hps person near an army of Wallows who degen and bloodspike ya to death.
*Kill the Kurtz*
Wonder around Eradon Terrace and Kill five groups of Kurtzicks, yea a bunch of assassins,necros,rangers,healers to keep you from your 400faction
Kurzick Repeatables
*Scouting Mission*
Lutgardis Conservatory
I can solo this by myself in 1min 30sec... All you have to do is quickly Run to a point and another appears (4 total) Last one I die just so I don't have to run back to rez shrine, then I talk to the master 2kexp 400faction
*supply Run* House Zu Hetzer to Conservatory
Another I can solo with henchies as meatshields just make sure you keep two alive for when you go under the bridge to take the heat. *ding* 2kexp 400 faction.
I'm Luxon, but I liked the kurzick armor. I did/tried these with a Ranger/Warrior
4runskills,two healing,shields up and defensive stance. Kurzicks have to escort no one, keep no one alive and don't have to kill anyone for these. These two quest are done fairly quick with noth much effort. Vrs a full team of Luxons to do their repeatables...
Please balance out the kurzick repeatables
Unfair advantage to Kurzick vrs luxon quests
Parn
Mysterial
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Luxons Repeatables
*Supply Run* (Insert Nerf Bat here) Now we get bodyblocked at everyturn. Not only that, all they attack with are knockdowns and degens. If by chance ya do make it there without kiting angry carps ect. scuttle fish are attacking your npc. So ya can't turn your supplies in. |
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*Recruiting* Bai Pasuu Reach Collect your four dimwhits who trail sooo far behind they can't help but aggro every mob....TAs if being spread out soo far wasn't bad enough. Then we put the weakest lowest hps person near an army of Wallows who degen and bloodspike ya to death. *Kill the Kurtz* Wonder around Eradon Terrace and Kill five groups of Kurtzicks, yea a bunch of assassins,necros,rangers,healers to keep you from your 400faction |
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Kurzick Repeatables *Scouting Mission* Lutgardis Conservatory I can solo this by myself in 1min 30sec... All you have to do is quickly Run to a point and another appears (4 total) Last one I die just so I don't have to run back to rez shrine, then I talk to the master 2kexp 400faction |
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*supply Run* House Zu Hetzer to Conservatory Another I can solo with henchies as meatshields just make sure you keep two alive for when you go under the bridge to take the heat. *ding* 2kexp 400 faction. |
Also, you forgot "Duel of the Houses" which is a pain now that you can't cheat as easily. Still not bad, but Jade Arena is easier, primarily because the Luxon builds suck in comparison to the Kurzicks. I think there's also a couple fewer at the arena.
Cacheelma
In Jade Arena, you still can cheat, somewhat, by attacking from above the cliff.
Wait, don't tell me you guys are just a bunch of wammos and assassass?
Wait, don't tell me you guys are just a bunch of wammos and assassass?
Perth68
I dont really think there is a big enough difference to warrant change if there even is one and It dosen't really matter tp begin with, you cant trade the faction over so luxon and kurzick city control is unaffected. Sure the armor may be harder to get but it makes it more special that way.
Batou of Nine
FIRST OF ALL, Look at the amount of faction to control House Zu Heltzer, Now look at the amount of faction to control Cavalon....
.... NOW you tell me which faction side has an easier time Faction Farming?
(And no, it is not because Luxon Guilds/Alliances FF more, it is simply ezier for em)
.... NOW you tell me which faction side has an easier time Faction Farming?
(And no, it is not because Luxon Guilds/Alliances FF more, it is simply ezier for em)
zakaria
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Originally Posted by Batou of Nine
FIRST OF ALL, Look at the amount of faction to control House Zu Heltzer, Now look at the amount of faction to control Cavalon....
.... NOW you tell me which faction side has an easier time Faction Farming? (And no, it is not because Luxon Guilds/Alliances FF more, it is simply ezier for em) |
Kaguya
Unrepeatable aside, are there now enough Luxon 'normal' quests to get 10k faction for the Befriending?
I remember during FPE that I had to do Arena multiple times to get the 10k on top of normal quests, whereas I got over 10k on Kurzik doing the normal quests alone.
I remember during FPE that I had to do Arena multiple times to get the 10k on top of normal quests, whereas I got over 10k on Kurzik doing the normal quests alone.
Mimi Miyagi
I'd also suggest folks quit tossing around the word "cheat" for something that obviously isn't cheating.
Lame? OK. Cheat? You got to be kidding.
Lame? OK. Cheat? You got to be kidding.
oljomo
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Originally Posted by Batou of Nine
FIRST OF ALL, Look at the amount of faction to control House Zu Heltzer, Now look at the amount of faction to control Cavalon....
.... NOW you tell me which faction side has an easier time Faction Farming? (And no, it is not because Luxon Guilds/Alliances FF more, it is simply ezier for em) |
Has? I think you mean Had, since they made the luxon supply run harder the op is saying it has taken the balance too far. However you will still see luxon faction higher than normal for a bit until the de ay hits in.
oljomo
Numa Pompilius
So your complaint is that you can't solo-farm some of the Faction missions?
Wow.
Wow.
Spazzer
Um. Okay, I just tested out the Luxon Supply Lines quest and the quartermaster is indeed under attack at the end. This prevents anyone from completing the quest until the monsters attacking the Quartermaster are killed.
Essentially, you need to grind more, noobie.
It used to take 50 minutes of faction grind to get 10k faction on either side. It's still 50 minutes for Kurzick, but I haven't got a clue what it would take for Luxon. My best guess is that it takes around 8 minutes (maybe more?) to complete the arena quest. Essentially, that becomes 3h20m to get 10k Luxon faction.
This is what comes of complaining that Factions is too short.
Essentially, you need to grind more, noobie.
It used to take 50 minutes of faction grind to get 10k faction on either side. It's still 50 minutes for Kurzick, but I haven't got a clue what it would take for Luxon. My best guess is that it takes around 8 minutes (maybe more?) to complete the arena quest. Essentially, that becomes 3h20m to get 10k Luxon faction.
This is what comes of complaining that Factions is too short.
Mandy Memory
You are forgetting:
The Jade Arena:
Soloable by a trapper
Dual of the Houses:
Soloable by a trapper
Both of those are the fastest and easiest way to get faction, therefore the other ones are pointless. They are exactly equal.
The Jade Arena:
Soloable by a trapper
Dual of the Houses:
Soloable by a trapper
Both of those are the fastest and easiest way to get faction, therefore the other ones are pointless. They are exactly equal.
Kaguya
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Originally Posted by Mandy Memory
You are forgetting:
The Jade Arena: Soloable by a trapper Dual of the Houses: Soloable by a trapper Both of those are the fastest and easiest way to get faction, therefore the other ones are pointless. They are exactly equal. |
I dunno, I haven't tried
Esprit
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Didn't they 'fix' Duel of the Houses, making them aggro immediatelly so you couldn't effectively trap them anymore?
I dunno, I haven't tried |
SirJackassIII
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Originally Posted by Batou of Nine
FIRST OF ALL, Look at the amount of faction to control House Zu Heltzer, Now look at the amount of faction to control Cavalon....
.... NOW you tell me which faction side has an easier time Faction Farming? (And no, it is not because Luxon Guilds/Alliances FF more, it is simply ezier for em) |
House Zu Hetzer is at 6.5 million and rising.
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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
So your complaint is that you can't solo-farm some of the Faction missions?
Wow. |
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Originally Posted by Mandy Memory
You are forgetting:
The Jade Arena: Soloable by a trapper Dual of the Houses: Soloable by a trapper Both of those are the fastest and easiest way to get faction, therefore the other ones are pointless. They are exactly equal. |
Haven't tried Jade Arena myself though.
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Originally Posted by Kaguya
Unrepeatable aside, are there now enough Luxon 'normal' quests to get 10k faction for the Befriending?
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Pompeyfan
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Luxons Repeatables
Kurzicks have to escort no one, keep no one alive |
RTSFirebat
Yes Duel of the Houses has been "corrected" and you can no longer cheat trap before the fight starts.
In anycase to the OP, if you feel there is a problem with the unbalance and Kurzick quests then send a.net support a note asking them to change it.
In anycase to the OP, if you feel there is a problem with the unbalance and Kurzick quests then send a.net support a note asking them to change it.
Tijger
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no it's because of tons of donations that TC get from ppl outside their alliance to keep the deep free for all
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Also, look at the price difference between Jade and Amber, while Amber holds pretty steady Jade drops consistently in price at the traders.
clarianaeneas
What are you talking about? It's so easy to gain Luxon faction. I just started trying Luxon with my Ranger after playing through the whole game (Kurzick) with my ranger and my Assassin, and I have to say the Luxon side is much easier. first of all, I managed to get through all the Luxon quests I could pick up in Cavalon within 2 hrs (with henchies), secondly, just by walking around randomly I ended up infront of Gayala Hatchery, as opposed to the Kurzick side where you have to walk through long stretches of forest with loads of mobs to reach the mission.
Besides, why do you want Luxon faction? Jade is cheap anyways, farm Kurzick faction, sell amber for 2.5k a piece and buy twice as much Jade.
Besides, why do you want Luxon faction? Jade is cheap anyways, farm Kurzick faction, sell amber for 2.5k a piece and buy twice as much Jade.
Don Zardeone
There is no kurzick vs luxon thing.
It's just a small part of the story.
Kurzick territory is a territorry. Luxon sea is a sea.
There is no war, there is no advantage/disadvantage.
It's all just lore.
The price of Jade has nothing to do with the price of Amber.
It's just a small part of the story.
Kurzick territory is a territorry. Luxon sea is a sea.
There is no war, there is no advantage/disadvantage.
It's all just lore.
The price of Jade has nothing to do with the price of Amber.
Cyril Aspect
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There is no kurzick vs luxon thing.
It's just a small part of the story. Kurzick territory is a territorry. Luxon sea is a sea. There is no war, there is no advantage/disadvantage. It's all just lore. The price of Jade has nothing to do with the price of Amber. |
Um what?
are you serious?
Sagius Truthbarron
The Luxon "supply run" quest only takes a wamo with mending 1 minute to run.
guffey
the kurzik Territory is much harder to get through which makes any quest u do take a hwile. kurzik mobs seem much harder than luxon mobs. i was able to do most of the luxon quests in 2 hours during the BWE but im still not done with Kurzik quests. still have wardens on the march, black moa, and a few others in drazhen thicket.... and ive been in Kurzik territory for 2 weeks now.
Spazzer
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The Luxon "supply run" quest only takes a wamo with mending 1 minute to run.
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The run was never faster than 2 minutes round trip [example]. The run itself with no zoning was about 1:30ish. With the nerfed mobs, this becomes 1:40ish (syphon speed, knockdowns, etc). However, it is impossible to complete unless you fight a battle against 2 monk enemies with Balthazar's Aura and Healing Touch. This means that it has been effectively canned.
Also, addressing Jade Arena: this too has been fixed so that it is no longer trappable.
I suggest that everyone try these quests to find out for themselves how they have been updated rather than inserting memes.
Levi Garett
I'm not going to comment on the Luxon quests as I've never done any of them, but the Kurzick Conservatory run takes longer than the OP's claimed 1 minute 30 second exaggeration (solo). I call bull-honkey on that one.
What's really going on here is you got used to such cakewalk Luxion faction and now there has been some balance added to it with the added nerfs to your supply running quest. Now you're just whining because it's not something you can do solo while watching Sesame Street with your uber Charge/Sprint/Mending W/Mo.
Ever tried to actually do something with a team of people? Obviously the game was designed with that in mind and you should try it sometime...
What's really going on here is you got used to such cakewalk Luxion faction and now there has been some balance added to it with the added nerfs to your supply running quest. Now you're just whining because it's not something you can do solo while watching Sesame Street with your uber Charge/Sprint/Mending W/Mo.
Ever tried to actually do something with a team of people? Obviously the game was designed with that in mind and you should try it sometime...
Spazzer
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I'm not going to comment on the Luxon quests as I've never done any of them
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What's really going on here is you got used to such cakewalk Luxion faction and now there has been some balance added to it with the added nerfs to your supply running quest.
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Ever tried to actually do something with a team of people? Obviously the game was designed with that in mind and you should try it sometime...
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Fred Kiwi
was just looking at that running example and saw this...http://youtube.com/watch?v=VafmKDFDo...arming%20luxon
wtf? I'm just trying to work out how they made it, I can't see any player character luring them
wtf? I'm just trying to work out how they made it, I can't see any player character luring them
Levi Garett
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You mean Kurzick?
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As I understood it the Luxon Supply run was stuipid easy before they nerfed it. Easily done SOLO in less than 2 minutes from what I heared. I'm pretty sure this had something to do with Cavalon being held with easily twice as much faction than HvH during this time period. Now that the nerfs have been introduced to the Luxon quests we should see the amount of faction required to hold the capitals balancing out.
It was a widely know fact that earning Luxon faction was way easier than earning Kurzick faction before the recent nerfs. Again I cannot comment on Luxon quests as I personally have never done them, but heaven forbid it takes a tiny bit of time/effort now to actually get your Luxon faction...
Cymmina
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Originally Posted by Kaguya
Unrepeatable aside, are there now enough Luxon 'normal' quests to get 10k faction for the Befriending?
I remember during FPE that I had to do Arena multiple times to get the 10k on top of normal quests, whereas I got over 10k on Kurzik doing the normal quests alone. |
Spazzer
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No I meant what I said.
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And no, there are not enough non-repeatable quests to get 10k faction on Luxon side. As I said: Alliance Battle is now your best option.
Kaguya
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And no, there are not enough non-repeatable quests to get 10k faction on Luxon side. As I said: Alliance Battle is now your best option.
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=HT=Ingram
poo-poo as in wrapped chicken??? Sorry. I know I know work with my drugs.. lol I am so bad...
l2k-Shadow
There are less Luxon quests than Kurzick. Thing is that it is much much easier to gain Luxon faction because of the Alliance Battle factor.. The Luxons are pushed back to Etnaran Keys every other three hours, therefore they gain battlefield advantage, and have an easy time of winning the battle. If you grab a good team of 4 and the other 2 allied teams aren't complete retards, you will get ~750 faction per battle... while if at this time you are fighting with the Kurzick, you gain the amount of faction depending on the points you earned in battle, so no more than 499. This is also why Jade price is dropping, many people (like myself) just wait till we're at etnaran keys to do AB, 3 AB for 2 pieces of jade.
shmek
sorry old resurrection on accident. However, bottom line.... play and figure out strategies rather then cry for nerfs of all things...
some guy
If you want to farm Luxon factions, do jade arena.
Zui
Thread Necromancy FTW!!
ramma77
"It used to take 50 minutes of faction grind to get 10k faction on either side. It's still 50 minutes for Kurzick, but I haven't got a clue what it would take for Luxon. My best guess is that it takes around 8 minutes (maybe more?) to complete the arena quest. Essentially, that becomes 3h20m to get 10k Luxon faction."
8 minutes? O.O
me and the guildies were doing this in about half that. 5 warriors, a healer, ranger with Fs and a necro with orders n stuff.
we did try this with 2 smiting monks but found quicker this way.
BUT... they complained that it was boring. fools
8 minutes? O.O
me and the guildies were doing this in about half that. 5 warriors, a healer, ranger with Fs and a necro with orders n stuff.
we did try this with 2 smiting monks but found quicker this way.
BUT... they complained that it was boring. fools