Currently I'm replaying Sunjiang District to get Equinox for my Ranger. I've done it three times and still no Ranger Construct at the end. I had the same experience capturing Soul Bind for my Necromancer. (4th try was the charm.)
I think placing elites on randomly spawned boss monsters in a mission is really poor design. It's especially poor in this mission because you need to fight through the entire thing just to find out if the boss will spawn.
In Prophecies the bosses would be randomly placed, but always be in the map.
/rant
Sunjiang District: Annoying Elite Captures
MelechRic
kurath
The explorable area of Sunjiang district has a gate which opens up after completion of the mission. This area will spawn all 6 core class constructs. The ranger construct is the first one. Walk to the south of the area from Zin Ku Corridor towards Pongmei valley then turn west. You will run into a gate into the mission area where the constructs will be. The ritualist construct spawns outside unwaking waters (kurzick) and the assassin construct outside unwaking waters (luxon).
MelechRic
^^ Thanks so much. I guess I misread the guild wiki entry. It does say Sunjiang District, but I thought it meant the mission and not the explorable area.
Silly me.
Silly me.
lennymon
Actually they wont always spawn in prophesies as I've discovered trying to cap stupid restore condition the last 5 times...
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Currently I'm replaying Sunjiang District to get Equinox for my Ranger. I've done it three times and still no Ranger Construct at the end. I had the same experience capturing Soul Bind for my Necromancer. (4th try was the charm.)
I think placing elites on randomly spawned boss monsters in a mission is really poor design. It's especially poor in this mission because you need to fight through the entire thing just to find out if the boss will spawn.
In Prophecies the bosses would be randomly placed, but always be in the map.
/rant and tytyty for that thing on the sunjiang district exploreable... I actually went and killed Gita in Boreas seabed mission so I wouldnt need to redo that mission 4 times to get life sheath.
I think placing elites on randomly spawned boss monsters in a mission is really poor design. It's especially poor in this mission because you need to fight through the entire thing just to find out if the boss will spawn.
In Prophecies the bosses would be randomly placed, but always be in the map.
/rant and tytyty for that thing on the sunjiang district exploreable... I actually went and killed Gita in Boreas seabed mission so I wouldnt need to redo that mission 4 times to get life sheath.
audra
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Originally Posted by MelechRic
In Prophecies the bosses would be randomly placed, but always be in the map.
That's not true. And quite a few were much harder to get to than the average Factions elite, as well. Ether Prodigy anyone?
LiQuId StEeL
:O there IS an exporable!? YES! Oh man, I was dreading having to cap there another 6 times.
remmeh
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Originally Posted by audra
That's not true. And quite a few were much harder to get to than the average Factions elite, as well. Ether Prodigy anyone?
ether prodigy and shield of deflection
but for me, the kicker will always be incendiary arrows with a bad group :\
but for me, the kicker will always be incendiary arrows with a bad group :\
dargon
or a good group, that mob sucked 
Raptox
Oh sweet gentle Jesus...
THANK YOU, OP and answerer, for this thread. This was bothering me to no end.
THANK YOU, OP and answerer, for this thread. This was bothering me to no end.
Y.T.
there are 6 bosses total, but if u're doing the mis, u can kill only 4 at the wery end, and u're not going to have enough time for any skillcaps from the last boss u kill. however u can explore this area AFTER u beat this mis and all 6 bosses will spawn near the portals. for some reasons melee henchy werent able to reach monk construct, prolly a minor bug, but u can nuke him and cap his elite anyway.
MelechRic
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Originally Posted by audra
That's not true. And quite a few were much harder to get to than the average Factions elite, as well. Ether Prodigy anyone?
Well I guess my statement was based on personal experience. I use the elite map that was compiled for prophecies some time ago. I've never missed an elite on any of the missions/areas where the elite was indicated. I'd love to know some examples of where certain elites don't always spawn. (Just for reference of course.)
As for Ether Prodigy...
http://www.xennon.co.uk/eliteskills/AllRingBreeze.JPG
Seems that it's potentially in three spots. A bit of a slog, but if you search all three spots you're guaranteed to get it.
For me Incendiary Arrows was a toughie to get on my ranger. Eventually I figured out that Barrage + Winter did the trick.
However, my least favorite skill cap has to be Feast of Corruption. Slogging all the way to Dreadnought's Drift through Snake Dance is so unpleasant.
As for Ether Prodigy...
http://www.xennon.co.uk/eliteskills/AllRingBreeze.JPG
Seems that it's potentially in three spots. A bit of a slog, but if you search all three spots you're guaranteed to get it.
For me Incendiary Arrows was a toughie to get on my ranger. Eventually I figured out that Barrage + Winter did the trick.
However, my least favorite skill cap has to be Feast of Corruption. Slogging all the way to Dreadnought's Drift through Snake Dance is so unpleasant.
MelechRic
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Originally Posted by lennymon
Actually they wont always spawn in prophesies as I've discovered trying to cap stupid restore condition the last 5 times...
Did you check all four locations on this map?
http://www.xennon.co.uk/eliteskills/...adonSpider.JPG
I know that I captured this easily when using my monk. Maybe I was just lucky.
http://www.xennon.co.uk/eliteskills/...adonSpider.JPG
I know that I captured this easily when using my monk. Maybe I was just lucky.
SnipiousMax
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Originally Posted by remmeh
...the kicker will always be incendiary arrows with a bad group....
I did that one with henchies....but it took me a few tries.
MelechRic
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Stupid database error... double posting... *grumbles to himself*
Stupid database error... double posting... *grumbles to himself*
Avarre
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MelechRic
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I did Sunjiang a total of 14 times to cap all the skills in mission... so meh at 3 attempts
Well it was actually 8 when I count my necro and ranger together. I also think my original thought still stands: random placement is fine, but random spawns are not when it comes to boss monsters and skill capping.
Well it was actually 8 when I count my necro and ranger together. I also think my original thought still stands: random placement is fine, but random spawns are not when it comes to boss monsters and skill capping.
personaljihad
I totally forgot about the explorable area, THANKS!
dargon
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Originally Posted by MelechRic
Well I guess my statement was based on personal experience. I use the elite map that was compiled for prophecies some time ago. I've never missed an elite on any of the missions/areas where the elite was indicated. I'd love to know some examples of where certain elites don't always spawn. (Just for reference of course.)
Obsidian Flesh and Quickshot, only one of those two bosses will ever load at a time outside Emberlight Camp on Perdition Rock.
Francis Crawford
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Obsidian Flesh and Quickshot, only one of those two bosses will ever load at a time outside Emberlight Camp on Perdition Rock.
Exactly. The Coldstone siblings never hang out together.
Maybe there's just one and s/he's a cross-dresser.
Maybe there's just one and s/he's a cross-dresser.
linh
Some other annoy elite skill caps in tyria are Earth Shaker and Healing Hands. That ettin boss with HH only spawn in few places, but I had to rezone near 10 times to get him spawn -_-
Winstar
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Originally Posted by Y.T.
there are 6 bosses total, but if u're doing the mis, u can kill only 4 at the wery end, and u're not going to have enough time for any skillcaps from the last boss u kill. however u can explore this area AFTER u beat this mis and all 6 bosses will spawn near the portals. for some reasons melee henchy werent able to reach monk construct, prolly a minor bug, but u can nuke him and cap his elite anyway.
Yeah, a guildie and I had the same problem with our warriors. Does anyone else know anymore about getting at the monks construct with melee characters?
OrangeArrow
Why kill the Monk's Construct, One of the Monk bosses at the start of the Boreas Seaboard Mission has the same Elite.
sumasage
Anyone know where to find a list of elite's location? i'm looking for something that have map marker of where the boss spawn and name of the boss. Trying to cap all 95 Elites.....
Winstar
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Originally Posted by OrangeArrow
Why kill the Monk's Construct, One of the Monk bosses at the start of the Boreas Seaboard Mission has the same Elite.
Its not for the elite, its for the green.
CKaz
Mmm so I can just do this explorable? Necro is only missing this one.
Sweet, I'll have to go explore tonight
Sweet, I'll have to go explore tonight
heach
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Originally Posted by kurath
The explorable area of Sunjiang district has a gate which opens up after completion of the mission. This area will spawn all 6 core class constructs. The ranger construct is the first one. Walk to the south of the area from Zin Ku Corridor towards Pongmei valley then turn west. You will run into a gate into the mission area where the constructs will be. The ritualist construct spawns outside unwaking waters (kurzick) and the assassin construct outside unwaking waters (luxon).
Here's a pic for the path
Nivryx
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Originally Posted by MelechRic
In Prophecies the bosses would be randomly placed, but always be in the map.
from the looks of it several people have picked on you for this....but ill pick on you some more. Quickshot was a b****. Maxine Coldstone on Perdition Rock. There are several bosses who can spawn instead, I just know that there are two coldstones, and both wander around the eastern side of perdition rock. Took me many attempts before i finally just decided to solo everything right outside perdition rock and then i just watched a movie and waited for maxine to walk by. took me 3 different spawns and probably about 4-5 hours of total time spent trying to get it....(i was stupid and tried going with a cap group 1-2 times)
CKaz
yep the coldstones which alternate were quite painful
Savio
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Anyone know where to find a list of elite's location? i'm looking for something that have map marker of where the boss spawn and name of the boss. Trying to cap all 95 Elites.....
There are only 90 elites per chapter, and
http://www.xennon.co.uk
http://www.guildwiki.org
http://www.xennon.co.uk
http://www.guildwiki.org
Parson Brown
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Originally Posted by CKaz
yep the coldstones which alternate were quite painful
I'm sure this isn't news to most, but since the patrol is so big and this boss can be tough to find (whichever one spawns), I just look for random spirits in the area.
If you see a ranger spirit that doesn't seem to belong (no mobs nearby) you know the ranger boss is patrolling.
If you see a ranger spirit that doesn't seem to belong (no mobs nearby) you know the ranger boss is patrolling.
MelechRic
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from the looks of it several people have picked on you for this....but ill pick on you some more. Quickshot was a b****. Maxine Coldstone on Perdition Rock. There are several bosses who can spawn instead, I just know that there are two coldstones, and both wander around the eastern side of perdition rock. Took me many attempts before i finally just decided to solo everything right outside perdition rock and then i just watched a movie and waited for maxine to walk by. took me 3 different spawns and probably about 4-5 hours of total time spent trying to get it....(i was stupid and tried going with a cap group 1-2 times)
Thanks! I guess I must have the two luckiest characters ever... neither my monk nor my ranger had any trouble capturing all their elites in the Ring of Fire. I guess this shows me that I shouldn't generalize my personal experiences to everyone else.
I guess I must have the two luckiest characters ever... neither my monk nor my ranger had any trouble capturing all their elites in the Ring of Fire. I guess this shows me that I shouldn't generalize my personal experiences to everyone else.