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Lambentviper

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Noobs Just Took Halls [WTF]

Mo/E

26 May 2006 at 19:45 - 1

Profession: A/x
Name: Black Lotus
Type: General PvP: RA, TA, ABs
Category: Spiker/Interupter
Attributes:

12+2 Daggers
6+1 Shadow Arts
12+1 Critical Strikes

Skills Set:

Aura of Displacement {E}
Mark of Instability
Black Lotus Strike
Twisting Fangs
Falling SPider
Horns of the Ox (Blades of Steel)
Shadow Refuge (or other heal)
Ressurection Signet

Summary: AoD to your target as soon as you cast Mark of Instability to catch them off guard. This costs 20 energy, but Black Lotus Strike should give you 16-17 energy back, which is more than enough for the rest of your bar. Follow with twisting fangs for deep wound spike and a free knockdown, and a Falling Spider for some high extra damage and another -4 regen.
Now, you have 2 options:
-Horns of the OX: This adds another KD into the mix, suggested for takeing out monks.
-Blades of Steel: If you favor the super-spike, go with this. Has taken down a mesmer with Illusion of Weakness and started from 3/4 max health.

Notes & Concerns: Black Lotus Strike has a 25 second recharge. Stay out of the way of targets while this recharges.

Credit: Valerius X and myself

feel free to leave comments, constructive criticism is ok too

Lord Oranos

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fort Aspenwood

25 Jun 2006 at 05:14 - 2

Thread ressurection ftw. This is an extremely powerful build, the element of surprise and high damage makes this a true killer.

I just took it out for a spin, I killed many rangers that even had whirling up mid combo, It kills warriors with ease, and just about everything else you can think of.

MercenaryKnight

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2006

Wolf of Shadows [WoS]

P/

25 Jun 2006 at 06:02 - 3

I am assuming that 6+1 shadow thing is either wrong or one of the 12+x is wrong because if I am not mistaken the max base attributes you could have would be 12/12/3.

Valerius

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

R/

25 Jun 2006 at 07:18 - 4

i think going 15 DM / 13 CS / 7 SA works best

the build is powerful... but the recharge of BLS really kills it

superj76

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

ACE

Mo/W

25 Jun 2006 at 07:48 - 5

This build rocks enormous dmg....I only wish black lotus would recharge faster.

Thanks for idea.

Lord Oranos

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fort Aspenwood

25 Jun 2006 at 08:07 - 6

With Bls recharging only 5 seconds after AoD, It doesnt really bother me. I have my own spike build but its far more predictable. I like this more due to AoD really.

S H I N O B I

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

PSC

R/W

25 Jun 2006 at 09:23 - 7

Very quick dmg, but once the enemy is down, you're also down for the count until your combo trigger recharges back....

(if only Assassin's promise wasn't an elite! aargh!!)

Nevertheless, good stuff! Definitely worth checking out ^.^

soySauceNR1ce

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Tampa, Fl

(pRYD) Pride Fighterz

Mo/R

25 Jun 2006 at 09:46 - 8

yea i tryed this out it works pretty well i remeber i was running from a warrior, (being used to run when a warrior is after me) i was testing how good this build is so i turned around and i killed him in like 5 secs =D first

Lambentviper

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Noobs Just Took Halls [WTF]

Mo/E

25 Jun 2006 at 14:53 - 9

Thanks for the positive comments, and i would like to restate that pretty much the bulk of the build was by Valerius X.

But if you all like this so much, check this one out if you havent already

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3060638

Siren

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

25 Jun 2006 at 16:28 - 10

Hmmm...pity your Attri spread is thin. If you weren't using this in RA, I'd say drop Shadow Arts, put them into Deadly Arts, then replace AoD with Assassin's Promise. Seems to me that if you were to slip in AP right before Blades of Steel (or hell, before Twisting), you'd have zero recharge problems. Catch there is making sure you still get to use Blades of Steel. So it might be best to go AP-->Blades of Steel.

All in all, nice build. I like to see people using Mark of Instability.

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

25 Jun 2006 at 19:32 - 11

Hmm, not bad, I do like that people are starting to use major runes more often

Kyle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Legends Of Teh Industry [XXX]

26 Jun 2006 at 05:06 - 12

hahaha i just started running this the other day and was going to post what i was using when i see you have the same thing. It works nice with the +energy from BLS. but the recharge is a little rough but can be dealt with since you can AoD out. I like it.....so far

King Henry

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Phoenix, Arizona

The Bow and the Blade (BnB)

W/N

26 Jun 2006 at 06:29 - 13

I posted up almost this exact same build a couple days ago. Pretty damn useful if you ask me. It's a killer of all casters, pretty much. I don't like using AoD,though, so I swapped in Moebius strike, resulting in an auto recharge of BLS + 2 HotOs in a row, and for a monk struggling to get off an RoF that's pretty devastating. By the time they stand up, they're back down again.

Kyle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Legends Of Teh Industry [XXX]

26 Jun 2006 at 06:34 - 14

knockdowns are just oh so much fun. When you are the one doing the knocking down. love it so much.

balla2thebone

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/E

26 Jun 2006 at 06:36 - 15

awesome gunna jack it from u

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

26 Jun 2006 at 06:37 - 16

OO this build just gave me an awesome idea for a PvE build
Vamp Weap
same atts

Run skills in this order
Mark of Instability
Golden Lotus Strike
Black Lotus Strike
Twisting Fangs
Falling Spider
Horns Of The Ox
Moebius Strike
Mending(as my enchant and for the vamp)

that would be a completely never-ending combo depending on recharge of MoI.

of course this build would only apply if its cool with yer party if ye dont bring a res.

King Henry

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Phoenix, Arizona

The Bow and the Blade (BnB)

W/N

26 Jun 2006 at 06:40 - 17

MoI recharges at 20secs ;[.

Lol! That's hilarious, though! I never once thought of putting Golden Lotus AND Black Lotus in the same combo. xDD Pure awesomeness.

TadaceAce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

26 Jun 2006 at 06:46 - 18

Was screwing around with it in pve.
15 dagger 11 crit 11 deadly.
Mark - black lotus - promise - twisting - spider - blossom - watch yourself - ?skill x?

With zealous daggers had no energy problems. With henchmen the wardens usually died during spider. Promise misses sometimes, afflicted use expel hexes and such, and sometimes I swear it just doesn't work for some reason (when this happens your basically screwed for 45 seconds). This build doesn't use a stance... so skill x can be sprint, dash, rez whatever.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

26 Jun 2006 at 06:49 - 19

I understand why promis is at 45 secs considering it SHOULD recharge itslef but I think that it should only be like 30 sec recharge 45 is a bit too much with so much hex removal in game.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

26 Jun 2006 at 06:50 - 20

Also promise can work with my build too my only problem is that the atts will be way too spread out, besides I am not aware enough to use promise half the time, that's why I will never be a monk, I am stretching it with my rit.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

26 Jun 2006 at 06:51 - 21

Hey king ever thought of using Golden Lotus and Golden Phoenix? at max DM Phoenix is free, that's how I get away with energy management in my AoD gank build.