Not sure where to put this, but I do know that on occassion GM's visit or are a part of this forum so, here goes:
First of all, I understand the concept or reason why you at arena a.k.a NCSoft keep nerfing everything under the sun. What I am really pissed off about is this. I am an avid 55'er (InvinciMonk), I used to 55 the desert and various other places untill recently they were nerf'd not only for the NEW BREED of mobs but for those F*** up botters that screw everyting up for everyone.Then we were forced to move to those sorry A** trolls outside of droks. Now, don't get me wrong drops were ok after seeding ur character and everything was great, But as of the New build from yesterday it seems, once again you have screwed up the economy for us. I have done over 100 runs today. and recived the following. I net'd 10 k gp, got 2 frikkin chests, no gold drops what-so-ever. I also recieved TWO purples. Now .. I ask you, how do u expect people to keep playing this game if you @ NC or Arena Keep screwin crap up for us??? I have 4 copies of the game because I love this game but you make it VERY hard to stay in tune with it. If your attacking the bot issue then watch the international accounts because most of them are international. Nerf thier crap or ban them but why make everyone suffer. I think it's damn rediculas to use the " MASS PUNISHMENT" theory.. for one.. it doesn't work it only PISSES PEOPLE OFF. I've had enough of the nerfing go screw up something else. .....
Pissed Off ..
Eolithic Monk
Guardian of the Light
You might as well say "flame me" if your putting that into that. *ducks down for cover as flames coem down*
Overnite
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Not sure where to put this, but I do know that on occassion GM's visit or are a part of this forum so, here goes:
First of all, I understand the concept or reason why you at arena a.k.a NCSoft keep nerfing everything under the sun. What I am really pissed off about is this. I am an avid 55'er (InvinciMonk), I used to 55 the desert and various other places untill recently they were nerf'd not only for the NEW BREED of mobs but for those F*** up botters that screw everyting up for everyone.Then we were forced to move to those sorry A** trolls outside of droks. Now, don't get me wrong drops were ok after seeding ur character and everything was great, But as of the New build from yesterday it seems, once again you have screwed up the economy for us. I have done over 100 runs today. and recived the following. I net'd 10 k gp, got 2 frikkin chests, no gold drops what-so-ever. I also recieved TWO purples. Now .. I ask you, how do u expect people to keep playing this game if you @ NC or Arena Keep screwin crap up for us??? I have 4 copies of the game because I love this game but you make it VERY hard to stay in tune with it. If your attacking the bot issue then watch the international accounts because most of them are international. Nerf thier crap or ban them but why make everyone suffer. I think it's damn rediculas to use the " MASS PUNISHMENT" theory.. for one.. it doesn't work it only PISSES PEOPLE OFF. I've had enough of the nerfing go screw up something else. ..... |
Eolithic Monk
lol.. well.. call it what you will. /flameon
Opeth11
Even if you actually expected ArenaNet to change this up, I doubt they would do it to an unpenetratable wall of text.
I'm bored, so I've taken the courtesy to split up this post for you, edit some of it, and change up some of the wording. Nothing against your english skills, but I have an exam coming up and I want to practice as much as I can.
Cheers.
Edit - Yes, another correction for my exam!
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Not sure where to put this, but I do know that on occassion GM's visit or are a part of this forum so, here goes:
First of all, I understand the concept or reason why you at arena, a.k.a NCSoft, keep nerfing everything under the sun. Well, I am really pissed off about is this. I am an avid 55'er (InvinciMonk), I used to 55 the desert and various other places untill recently they were nerfed. Not only for the NEW BREED of mobs are ruining this but for those ---- botters that screw everything up for everyone. Now we are forced to move to those trolls outside of Droks to farm. Now, don't get me wrong, drops there were decent after seeding your character and everything was great. But as of the new build from yesterday it seems, once again you have damaged the economy for us farmers and players alike. I have done over 100 runs today and recived the following: 10k Gold, two chests, no gold drops what-so-ever. I also recieved two purples. Now, I ask you, how do you expect people to keep playing this game if you developers Keep changing mechanics up for us players? I have 4 copies of the game because I love this game, but you make it very hard to stay in tune with it. If you want to continue attacking the bot issue, then watch the international districts because most of the botters rest there in international. Nerf their drops or ban them but keep it so that not everyone has to suffer. I think it's damn rediculouss to use the "mass punishment" theory. I feel that it doesn't work, as it only frustrates people. I've had enough of the nerfing, try to keep it clean. |
I'm bored, so I've taken the courtesy to split up this post for you, edit some of it, and change up some of the wording. Nothing against your english skills, but I have an exam coming up and I want to practice as much as I can.
Cheers.
Edit - Yes, another correction for my exam!
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You might as well say "flame me" if your putting that into that. *ducks down for cover as flames come down*
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krak harpie
Somewhat valid, no arguments from this FlAmEr.
Replicant
I Completly agree with Eolithic Monk, I've been very upset with how Anet punishes everyone because of botters. Insted of banning botters accounts and actually making an effort to stop it they just nerf the farming place.. then the botters just find something else to farm. ban the botters and stop screwing up my and my guilds fun by nerfing everyone.
Ban the Botters, and Leave the people that farm legit alone.
Ban the Botters, and Leave the people that farm legit alone.
Eolithic Monk
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I'm bored, so I've taken the courtesy to split up this post for you, edit some of it, and change up some of the wording. Nothing against your english skills, but I have an exam coming up and I want to practice as much as I can. Cheers. |
lol.. was in a fit of rage, but thx
Wyld Kard
I would not say I an truely upset with anet, I am more upset with the fact that people have nothing better to do than farm a spot 100x and expect to get good results. Sure one would think that but spots farmed endlessly seem to drop less and less. Half of this is due to botters the other half is due to people wanting to get something better for themselves but dont stop when they do.. its called greed... If anet wanted to I am sure they could put in a certain protocal that boots someone who farms a certain spot more than say 20 times then not allow that account to be accessed for atleast 5-10 minutes. this I belive would up the drop rate for the casuel farmer because you wouldnt have 'joe blow' farming ettins/trolls/mino what have yah endlessly thus increasing the drop rate. this might work, only way is to try it out.
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Ban the Botters, and Leave the people that farm legit alone.
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I CANT understand why cant anet be arsed to implement anti-bot measures.. everyone played diablo2 online would know how strict blizzard are..and gw seems very much easier to control imo.. at least Ive not seen the thousands of hacks u can use for diablo..
its just a cant-be-arsed attitude on anets behalf imho..
btw, I can only recommend you find new farm spots ^^. it does add a lot to the fun
PtiteDiablesse
Uh... I believe ANet just banned a whole fistful of bots. A thousand of 'em or thereabouts. But seriously, if you're depending so much on one single spot to farm, and that spot gets nerfed to try to quell the botters, it's just as much your own fault as anyone else's. Solution's simple, folks: find more than one farming ground. There are at least three other places in the desert that I can think of offhand that are easy to farm with a 55. If you can't adjust your build or find a new farming area, then that's your own fault, now, isn't it?
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ya,that sounds fair enough..
I CANT understand why cant anet be arsed to implement anti-bot measures.. everyone played diablo2 online would know how strict blizzard are..and gw seems very much easier to control imo.. at least Ive not seen the thousands of hacks u can use for diablo.. its just a cant-be-arsed attitude on anets behalf imho.. btw, I can only recommend you find new farm spots ^^. it does add a lot to the fun |
Loviatar
and for those who still dont get what is going on 100 fing runs? you must be compulsive....but back to the know nothings
maybe this will sink in
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Bots Banned 26 May 2006 In our continuing efforts to preserve a solid game economy and to support the legitimate Guild Wars player, we have been actively pursuing those who use "bots" in Guild Wars. In the last week, we have closed more than one thousand accounts of those using third-party programs, and we will continue to take similar action in the future. |
Cyan The Archer
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Not sure where to put this, but I do know that on occassion GM's visit or are a part of this forum so, here goes:
First of all, I understand the concept or reason why you at arena a.k.a NCSoft keep nerfing everything under the sun. What I am really pissed off about is this. I am an avid 55'er (InvinciMonk), I used to 55 the desert and various other places untill recently they were nerf'd not only for the NEW BREED of mobs but for those F*** up botters that screw everyting up for everyone.Then we were forced to move to those sorry A** trolls outside of droks. Now, don't get me wrong drops were ok after seeding ur character and everything was great, But as of the New build from yesterday it seems, once again you have screwed up the economy for us. I have done over 100 runs today. and recived the following. I net'd 10 k gp, got 2 frikkin chests, no gold drops what-so-ever. I also recieved TWO purples. Now .. I ask you, how do u expect people to keep playing this game if you @ NC or Arena Keep screwin crap up for us??? I have 4 copies of the game because I love this game but you make it VERY hard to stay in tune with it. If your attacking the bot issue then watch the international accounts because most of them are international. Nerf thier crap or ban them but why make everyone suffer. I think it's damn rediculas to use the " MASS PUNISHMENT" theory.. for one.. it doesn't work it only PISSES PEOPLE OFF. I've had enough of the nerfing go screw up something else. ..... |
Eolithic Monk
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Opeth11
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*cough* anti *cough* farm *cough* code *cough*
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i.e. Trolls, then Minotaurs, then Griffons, then Undead.
Who knows.
Retribution X
I like 55ing too, and well, It's like the armor issue. Nerf everything, fix .00000000000001%...
I really don't have anything against A-net, It just kinda gets on my nerves.
So I find extremly creepy places to solo.
I really don't have anything against A-net, It just kinda gets on my nerves.
So I find extremly creepy places to solo.
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...Now .. I ask you, how do u expect people to keep playing this game if you @ NC or Arena Keep screwin crap up for us???...
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And, not even going into detail about the anti-Farming code, but maybe they keep doing this cause it's called Guild Wars, not Farm Wars.
I know, call me crazy... how can I say such insane blasphemy? The world may never know...
TurinPT
god.. why do you need all the fake money for anyway... go pve or pvp and have some fun.
Opeth11
Well, I can imagine the mindset of the common farmer.
1. The money makes you feel like you could buy anything.
2. The missions can get boring after you've done them 4+ times.
3. PvE just gets boring, and the groups frustrates the player.
4. PvP doesn't interest the player.
And most importantly,
Games are meant for entertainment.
If a person feels that increasing the amount of gold and items that they have is fun and entertaining, why take it away? Why have a something that's doable in the game and not allow it to happen anymore?
Once again, that's just what I imagine what a common farmer thinks. The points are not necessarily of my beliefs.
1. The money makes you feel like you could buy anything.
2. The missions can get boring after you've done them 4+ times.
3. PvE just gets boring, and the groups frustrates the player.
4. PvP doesn't interest the player.
And most importantly,
Games are meant for entertainment.
If a person feels that increasing the amount of gold and items that they have is fun and entertaining, why take it away? Why have a something that's doable in the game and not allow it to happen anymore?
Once again, that's just what I imagine what a common farmer thinks. The points are not necessarily of my beliefs.
Mr_T_bot
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Not sure where to put this, but I do know that on occassion GM's visit or are a part of this forum so, here goes:
First of all, I understand the concept or reason why you at arena a.k.a NCSoft keep nerfing everything under the sun. What I am really pissed off about is this. I am an avid 55'er (InvinciMonk), I used to 55 the desert and various other places untill recently they were nerf'd not only for the NEW BREED of mobs but for those F*** up botters that screw everyting up for everyone.Then we were forced to move to those sorry A** trolls outside of droks. Now, don't get me wrong drops were ok after seeding ur character and everything was great, But as of the New build from yesterday it seems, once again you have screwed up the economy for us. I have done over 100 runs today. and recived the following. I net'd 10 k gp, got 2 frikkin chests, no gold drops what-so-ever. I also recieved TWO purples. Now .. I ask you, how do u expect people to keep playing this game if you @ NC or Arena Keep screwin crap up for us??? I have 4 copies of the game because I love this game but you make it VERY hard to stay in tune with it. If your attacking the bot issue then watch the international accounts because most of them are international. Nerf thier crap or ban them but why make everyone suffer. I think it's damn rediculas to use the " MASS PUNISHMENT" theory.. for one.. it doesn't work it only PISSES PEOPLE OFF. I've had enough of the nerfing go screw up something else. ..... |
Mandy Memory
Because this game is not made for solo....Therefore they should nerf all places so they cant be soloed...or not as easily...Anyone can solo with a cookiecutter build, make your own for once.
Zaxan Razor
Why oh why oh why can people not get their head around the ANTI-FARM CODE??
Anet didnt 'nerf' anything, you have just farmed the trolls too much over a certain period of time.
Spend a day or two somewhere else and then go back to the trolls.
Anet didnt 'nerf' anything, you have just farmed the trolls too much over a certain period of time.
Spend a day or two somewhere else and then go back to the trolls.
Meo Yeong
I get entertainment from farming not pvping and drops suck. I have killed sunreach 79+ times (thats going other places and using the theory of resetting the drops and also using 4 different characters) now and still havnt gotten his shield since they made green drops rarer. In all seriousness I could just go to my main farming spot and get 100k in 6 hours and buy the stupid shield instead but I am one for at least trying to farm the item for my character. I think anet is getting lame on all teh restrictions and suck drops. Also beat factions with 4 characters, have every skill in the game including all elites and so far only 3 greens. I remeber with sf I could get 3 greens in a day. Anyways I am not happy with whats going on.
floplag
i for one dont beleive ANY part of the map should be soloable... but thats me
i play these games online to play with others ... if i wanted to play by myslef id play local without the online.
i just dont get the appeal of the solo everything mentality. the only root of it i see, is greed. if you solo you get all the loot... i get that, as i said, greed
2 man teams, 3 man teams, etc... the game wasdesigned for up to 8 and we should need 8 to complete the most elite reas of the map, period
im sure ill get flamed alot more than the OP, but it wont change my mind so enjoy it
i play these games online to play with others ... if i wanted to play by myslef id play local without the online.
i just dont get the appeal of the solo everything mentality. the only root of it i see, is greed. if you solo you get all the loot... i get that, as i said, greed
2 man teams, 3 man teams, etc... the game wasdesigned for up to 8 and we should need 8 to complete the most elite reas of the map, period
im sure ill get flamed alot more than the OP, but it wont change my mind so enjoy it
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i for one dont beleive ANY part of the map should be soloable... but thats me
i play these games online to play with others ... if i wanted to play by myslef id play local without the online. i just dont get the appeal of the solo everything mentality. the only root of it i see, is greed. if you solo you get all the loot... i get that, as i said, greed 2 man teams, 3 man teams, etc... the game wasdesigned for up to 8 and we should need 8 to complete the most elite reas of the map, period im sure ill get flamed alot more than the OP, but it wont change my mind so enjoy it |
dawnrain
If farming's your thing, more power to you.
But don't you think the area is "broken" or poorly designed, if the intent is to be a challenging experience for a group of 8 lvl 20 characters and the reality is that it can be "soloed" by one lvl 20 character?
But don't you think the area is "broken" or poorly designed, if the intent is to be a challenging experience for a group of 8 lvl 20 characters and the reality is that it can be "soloed" by one lvl 20 character?
Fred Kiwi
1000 is a small proportion of all the botters
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The only reason you keep playing the game is to farm? Wow... And, not even going into detail about the anti-Farming code, but maybe they keep doing this cause it's called Guild Wars, not Farm Wars. I know, call me crazy... how can I say such insane blasphemy? The world may never know... |
Ok.. I surely don't have to explain myself to anyone. 1st of all, I do plenty of HOH and GVG and PVP etc, I have a rank 7 account. Secondly I farm for our guild.. Perhaps you should try supporting your guild and not flame other people for ammusment. However, I would expect that from a juvenile.
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vinegrower
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1000 is a small proportion of all the botters
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J3mo
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I Completly agree with Eolithic Monk, I've been very upset with how Anet punishes everyone because of botters. Insted of banning botters accounts and actually making an effort to stop it they just nerf the farming place.. then the botters just find something else to farm. ban the botters and stop screwing up my and my guilds fun by nerfing everyone.
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Young Hero
I love farming, its what keeps me playing.
I agree with thread starter,stop nerfing.
I dont want your horrible henchies tagging along with me.I dont want a noob group of "real players".
So 1000 accounts were banned, 100 accounts were banned what 4months ago.Thats 1100 third party program uses gone,[maybe more not sure] big freaking deal!Take care or the REAL problem-botters.You know there's 10,000 at least using programs to farm while the player is AFK.
Iam tired of taking the heat for something someone else does-Iam not quilty of breaking any rules, dont punish me for what We Won is doing with his army of Mo/W's
I agree with thread starter,stop nerfing.
I dont want your horrible henchies tagging along with me.I dont want a noob group of "real players".
So 1000 accounts were banned, 100 accounts were banned what 4months ago.Thats 1100 third party program uses gone,[maybe more not sure] big freaking deal!Take care or the REAL problem-botters.You know there's 10,000 at least using programs to farm while the player is AFK.
Iam tired of taking the heat for something someone else does-Iam not quilty of breaking any rules, dont punish me for what We Won is doing with his army of Mo/W's
volfield
If the negative effects of a rune are stackable with a rune of the same attribute, logically so should the positive effects.
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NOTHING in life is logically "correct" as you put it. It's all proven "thoeries" by human beings. What makes them correct?
Maria The Princess
Anet made so much succes with GW mostly for the games versatility. so there should be areas soloable, 55able, not soloable AT ALL, challenging, easy, whatever to keep people with diffrent interests staying online.
taking away the option of soloing and getting rich = forcing 50% of players to go play WOW or something...
honestly, i dont farm alot, i dont have time to. but when something new and that i want comes out, or i just want something new, i dont want to spend 2 weeks collecting pennies dropped by hydras... i want to have the option of getting it whithin few hours of intense farming, cuz otherwise its just boring and unpleasant to spend hours casting prot spirit+flame burst, to get...pfff
i just dont have time to do it, and even if i had... C'mon!
just because bots are screwing everything up, my game has to get more boring.
more farming = more boredom
less time farming= get item/rmorr/whatever faster= fun game
honesly, i dont paly i vid game to be bored, i rather wach tv then.. i hate getting punished because some1 elese is cheating, and notice, 1 night of 55ing, the boter still wakes up to 100k in inventory.
De-Nurf!!!
P-S: im a 55 ele, and i have 5 attribute lines. so im not vry scared of -hp rune bug getting fixed... technicly all the invinci monks will become invinci eles, and honesly, i had a 55 monk, and let me tell ya, ele takes down mobs much faster
taking away the option of soloing and getting rich = forcing 50% of players to go play WOW or something...
honestly, i dont farm alot, i dont have time to. but when something new and that i want comes out, or i just want something new, i dont want to spend 2 weeks collecting pennies dropped by hydras... i want to have the option of getting it whithin few hours of intense farming, cuz otherwise its just boring and unpleasant to spend hours casting prot spirit+flame burst, to get...pfff
i just dont have time to do it, and even if i had... C'mon!
just because bots are screwing everything up, my game has to get more boring.
more farming = more boredom
less time farming= get item/rmorr/whatever faster= fun game
honesly, i dont paly i vid game to be bored, i rather wach tv then.. i hate getting punished because some1 elese is cheating, and notice, 1 night of 55ing, the boter still wakes up to 100k in inventory.
De-Nurf!!!
P-S: im a 55 ele, and i have 5 attribute lines. so im not vry scared of -hp rune bug getting fixed... technicly all the invinci monks will become invinci eles, and honesly, i had a 55 monk, and let me tell ya, ele takes down mobs much faster
Opeth11
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ele takes down mobs much faster
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Maria The Princess
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flame burst (recharge 5 secs, deals 113dmg)
fire ball (recharge 10 secs, same dmg)
fire attunment
Aura of restauration (like monks divine favor)
and all the rst of te 55 stuff
dgb
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They need to make 55 entirely unplayable. 55 Monk never should have been makeable in the first place. The only reason it was creatable was because of an idiotic bug left in the game - the bonuses for runes don't stack, but the negative effects do. Monks do not have enough attribute lines to use enough different runes to get to 55, but they do if they double up on a single rune, doubling up it's negative effects. Bug.
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Replicant
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Well, I can imagine the mindset of the common farmer.
1. The money makes you feel like you could buy anything. 2. The missions can get boring after you've done them 4+ times. 3. PvE just gets boring, and the groups frustrates the player. 4. PvP doesn't interest the player. And most importantly, Games are meant for entertainment. If a person feels that increasing the amount of gold and items that they have is fun and entertaining, why take it away? Why have a something that's doable in the game and not allow it to happen anymore? Once again, that's just what I imagine what a common farmer thinks. The points are not necessarily of my beliefs. |
I have done pretty much every type of farming build from Solo to 5man Sorrows Furnace to 8 man B/P ToPK with all Guildies in all the builds because it's fun to do something as a guild group to help eachother out and talk in general with eachother on Ventrilo/TeamSpeak.
Not all Guild Wars players enjoy PvP, I personally hate every aspect of it and find 99% of the PvP'ers completly rude and immature.
but unlike the PvP hardcore people out there, my guild and I are 95% PvE we enjoy farming until the places we like to farm get nerfed. We farm to help eachother out, not too see how big our wallets can get.