Factions Finale
What did all you think of the ending of factions after beating the game.I thought it was the best part of the game.When we got our special weapons anyway it was the best part.it had the felling of a movie to it when the credits rolled at the end with the sombre mood f someone death but gong out as a hero once agian and walking the devine path really felt like being in a movie.It would of been nice if Prophecies were like this.I never have siad it but good going Anet and Ncsoft.
Factions Finale
Age
Ghull Ka
The end of GW:F was amazing. I loved it. Emperor Travolta FTW!
clarianaeneas
Yeah, I liked it alot too. You get a real sense of accomplishment, instead of just glint saying "ok..you saved the world, but OMG RUN a volcano is gonna kill you!" and then going back to Droknar's Forge.
Profecies had a semi-open ended ending, so it can't really be the same. The conflict isn't quite resolved at the end; you still have hordes of Titans rampaging through all of Tyria, Ascalon is still over-run with charr, and the scepter of Orr dissappears in the last cutscene. Although the Titan quests did take care of one of these things.
Profecies had a semi-open ended ending, so it can't really be the same. The conflict isn't quite resolved at the end; you still have hordes of Titans rampaging through all of Tyria, Ascalon is still over-run with charr, and the scepter of Orr dissappears in the last cutscene. Although the Titan quests did take care of one of these things.
SilentAssassin
yeah, I loved the ending to, all these ppl clapping etc... 
Mustache Mayhem
yeah I caught the clap running to the palace.. I think it was a good ending- the pheonix looks like a chicken though
fiery
Chinese origin Phoenix not your Harry Potter looking Phoenix.
makosi
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Mustache Mayhem
yeah I caught the clap running to the palace
|
Anyway, Factions ending was better than Prophecies - much more satisfying.
generik
Yes yes, they wasted time doing that nice ending just so our faction points can only be used for 2 things, and 2 things only.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but to the OP's post.. So?
It is just an ending, of absolutely zero consequence with the rest of the game.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but to the OP's post.. So?
It is just an ending, of absolutely zero consequence with the rest of the game.
Kitty
accutally, I find the end...boring. The clapping people are a nice touch, but well, that's about it. I have the feeling they're hiting you with tones of items and stuff you can get, so you don't notice the short game and crappy story-ending.
Count to Potato
Its not over, i bet a new Glint like quest will be added, kill the super shiroken still around
Tijger
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by makosi
If only you knew what that meant where I come from.
Anyway, Factions ending was better than Prophecies - much more satisfying. |
Definitely a worthy ending for once.
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by generik
Yes yes, they wasted time doing that nice ending just so our faction points can only be used for 2 things, and 2 things only.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but to the OP's post.. So? It is just an ending, of absolutely zero consequence with the rest of the game. |
This thread is about the ending as compared to Prophecies and even you cannot deny its a lot better done then the end of Prophecies.
Phoenix Avenger
I like the ending of Factions better than Prophesies as well. My only problem is that the last mission (killing shiro) is so easy :-/ I would have preferred more of a challenge on the last mission.
Donut Zeke
I guess I'm the oddball on this one, but I liked the open-ending of Prophecies. It showed that the world would never be perfect. Factions, while I love the game, was like everything is going to be perfect and happy forever!
MMSDome
it was pretty cool and it was nice to be rewarded and be recognized for beating the game, rather then getting shipped back to southern shiverpeaks with nothing but a thanks. BTW i didnt get the ending credits on any of my characters...
Mistress Mindbender
The end game items were no more than disapointing.
It seems like they made the warrior, and assassin weapons, got bored... made the ranger and then abandoned all attempts at originallity and made the caster ones, all the same names, graphics, ect. And there are no staves, which a lot of us hoped we would get.
The straw voodoo doll... enough said.
It seems like they made the warrior, and assassin weapons, got bored... made the ranger and then abandoned all attempts at originallity and made the caster ones, all the same names, graphics, ect. And there are no staves, which a lot of us hoped we would get.
The straw voodoo doll... enough said.
Total Rogue
i agree with mistress mindbender, which is why only my ranger and warrior will be getting endgame greens... my casters will recieve nothing (well maybe endgame armor...)
demon dantes
the ending was ok but the greens that drop from the boss s through out the game are so much better then what we get when we beat the game.
KamikazeChicken
I'd just like to know how all those level 20 NPCs wouldn't have been able to take on Shiro. >.> I feel used.
Ken Dei
I really liked the ending....you "earned" the 15k armor, the endgame green...and you felt like a Hero. You saved Cantha and know it.
Deepjay
Ending was a really nice touch, and unexpected.
It's a shame the voice acting all the way up to this point was absolutely horrible, i mean, cringe-worthy. It's funny how none of the reviews have pointed this out, im guessing they didnt play the game long enough to have to endure them. The prophecies voice acting wasnt stellar either, but cained the factions effort. Funny how a little thing like this can make the quality of those mission cutscenes very very average, opposed to good(like the prophecies one) - 2c!
It's a shame the voice acting all the way up to this point was absolutely horrible, i mean, cringe-worthy. It's funny how none of the reviews have pointed this out, im guessing they didnt play the game long enough to have to endure them. The prophecies voice acting wasnt stellar either, but cained the factions effort. Funny how a little thing like this can make the quality of those mission cutscenes very very average, opposed to good(like the prophecies one) - 2c!
shinja
I just finished Factions for the first time half an hour or so ago, and I was very pleased with the end sequence.
I thought the Raisu battle mission was far more difficult, but I had to do it ...and most of the rest of the game...with henchies because people dont group assassins.
What is cool about the Shiro fight is people actually group assassins...it was kinda easy with real people fighting him, but thats ok...it was not easy getting to him.
So yeah, good job devs
I thought the Raisu battle mission was far more difficult, but I had to do it ...and most of the rest of the game...with henchies because people dont group assassins.
What is cool about the Shiro fight is people actually group assassins...it was kinda easy with real people fighting him, but thats ok...it was not easy getting to him.
So yeah, good job devs
Esprit
I liked the ending too, neat fireworks. Plus, if you ever need a pick me up, just beat Shiro and let the NPCs tell you how super you are.
MoldyRiceFrenzy
i liked the end thing, but i dont understand the story line... i mean Shiro died... ya... but WHY WAS HE EVIL. I mean all it says was he killed the emperor because he thought the emperor was gonna kill him i mean thats not exactly a good reason why it made him evil. It never said, unless i skipped a cutscene. Anyone know why he really became evil?
floppinghog
hes the one that believed the fortune teller after clearly telling her she was speaking nonesense, he became greedy, a power luster, someone who wanted to protect only himself, and slayed the emperor from the back. he was a FOOL in short.
then what did he do when he was dying he consumed the emperor's soul, and caused the jade wind. he becomes an aperition (how do you spell it again?) like the other spirits of great -turned fools people who now guide souls to their destinations. he abused his power, and wanted revenge and wanted to become mortal again - having all that power now what else would he want but to take over the world with his minions of souls bound to his will.
evil enough for you?
so, on topic:
i LOVED the ending, it was A GREAT touch, i can't believe how entertaining it was when i first saw the emperor start dancing, and then the guard captains all laughed at him, and after awhile danced themselves too. fireworks used everything from random colors and light shines, to BEE's yes the BEE's that was only used in pre-searing LOL.... crazy.
no one can say it wasn't cool, because they had every single NPC congratuating you, and they saluted you as you walked by, kneeled to you, bow'ed to you, cheered for you! constantly. i guess no one else say Nika ? she waved and or claped for you i think, but the Guildmaster Luan said "/no" and showed her, he kneeled down to me, and then she did the same. it was interactive. you can't say the ending boring, it was AWESOME!!!!
the credits were a nice touch to set the mood in that you beat the game, that its time to show you who made what you beat. even picked out Alex from the credits, and Gaile, and my fav voice actor - which most of my chars actually use: Steve Blum (you RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing own)
hows that?
then what did he do when he was dying he consumed the emperor's soul, and caused the jade wind. he becomes an aperition (how do you spell it again?) like the other spirits of great -turned fools people who now guide souls to their destinations. he abused his power, and wanted revenge and wanted to become mortal again - having all that power now what else would he want but to take over the world with his minions of souls bound to his will.
evil enough for you?
so, on topic:
i LOVED the ending, it was A GREAT touch, i can't believe how entertaining it was when i first saw the emperor start dancing, and then the guard captains all laughed at him, and after awhile danced themselves too. fireworks used everything from random colors and light shines, to BEE's yes the BEE's that was only used in pre-searing LOL.... crazy.
no one can say it wasn't cool, because they had every single NPC congratuating you, and they saluted you as you walked by, kneeled to you, bow'ed to you, cheered for you! constantly. i guess no one else say Nika ? she waved and or claped for you i think, but the Guildmaster Luan said "/no" and showed her, he kneeled down to me, and then she did the same. it was interactive. you can't say the ending boring, it was AWESOME!!!!
the credits were a nice touch to set the mood in that you beat the game, that its time to show you who made what you beat. even picked out Alex from the credits, and Gaile, and my fav voice actor - which most of my chars actually use: Steve Blum (you RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing own)
hows that?
VGJustice
After I beat it, I kinda sat back and idled for a bit, talking via whisper to random people, so I got to see the credits when I was all alone. Then, I walked through the palace at my own pace, talking to each of the henchies with my brand spanking new Canthan 15k armor (which is ever so awesome looking) and just basically basking in the praise I was getting from the random passers by. And, I made sure to check up with the heads of both factions, and found that they were already planning at going back to each other's throats, so the story just goes on. And even the emperor was awesome, dancing the night away.
The ending to Prophecies doesn't even hold a candle. Most awesome ending I've seen in a long while. It actually made me feel like I had accomplished something REALLY great, unlike the Prophecies ending.
gg, A.Net.
The ending to Prophecies doesn't even hold a candle. Most awesome ending I've seen in a long while. It actually made me feel like I had accomplished something REALLY great, unlike the Prophecies ending.
gg, A.Net.
V-Dragon
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Phoenix Avenger
I like the ending of Factions better than Prophesies as well. My only problem is that the last mission (killing shiro) is so easy :-/ I would have preferred more of a challenge on the last mission.
|
I wish they had made Shiro as challenging as fighting Kanaxai or Urgoz.
MoldyRiceFrenzy
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by floppinghog
hes the one that believed the fortune teller after clearly telling her she was speaking nonesense, he became greedy, a power luster, someone who wanted to protect only himself, and slayed the emperor from the back. he was a FOOL in short.
then what did he do when he was dying he consumed the emperor's soul, and caused the jade wind. he becomes an aperition (how do you spell it again?) like the other spirits of great -turned fools people who now guide souls to their destinations. he abused his power, and wanted revenge and wanted to become mortal again - having all that power now what else would he want but to take over the world with his minions of souls bound to his will. evil enough for you? |
Avarre
It's in the readings, and from what NPCs say/cutscenes.
You're not hunting him on behalf of Cantha for the betrayal, you're hunting him under geas for the Envoys who have you under, basically, unyielding aura the entire time, holding your returned soul as price for your victory.
Also because as an Envoy he stole souls and used them to power the Shiro'ken, interacted beyond rules with the world of the living and '[shirked] his responsibilities as an Envoy'.
I liked the Finale... as for why all the NPCs didn't do anything, you were the only one who could fight his spirit, and when he became mortal you were the only ones around. The NPCs didn't get there until later to hold a celebration
You're not hunting him on behalf of Cantha for the betrayal, you're hunting him under geas for the Envoys who have you under, basically, unyielding aura the entire time, holding your returned soul as price for your victory.
Also because as an Envoy he stole souls and used them to power the Shiro'ken, interacted beyond rules with the world of the living and '[shirked] his responsibilities as an Envoy'.
I liked the Finale... as for why all the NPCs didn't do anything, you were the only one who could fight his spirit, and when he became mortal you were the only ones around. The NPCs didn't get there until later to hold a celebration
Lexar
I thought it was cheesy. This sort of ending is what you should get after a big challenge, but the campaign was just 13 missions or so, and an easy end-boss, so it's a little over the top compared to the effort it takes to get there.
Guildmaster Cain
Spoiler alert:
I personally found it not surprising at all that Shiro used the emperors half-borther to return, because it had been sais SO MANY times that he was his half-brother. I like it more when I get surprised by storylines. Legacy of Cain anyone?
Anyways, still questions remain:
1) What idiotic demigod decided to go Shiro so much power and make him an envoy, after killing an emperor and destroying half of the known Canthan world?
2) Who is the blind Seeress in Bukdek Byway? I personally think she is some kind of evil being, not unlike Glint, Gwen and Gaile. Probably has a name that starts with G as well. And it is her that made Shiro go evil in the first place. It seems that he always has been a protector of the people before he met her.
3) Will Shiro be back and fight on the side of good next time? He said: I'll be back in a very Arny kind of way during the last cutscene i think.
I personally found it not surprising at all that Shiro used the emperors half-borther to return, because it had been sais SO MANY times that he was his half-brother. I like it more when I get surprised by storylines. Legacy of Cain anyone?
Anyways, still questions remain:
1) What idiotic demigod decided to go Shiro so much power and make him an envoy, after killing an emperor and destroying half of the known Canthan world?
2) Who is the blind Seeress in Bukdek Byway? I personally think she is some kind of evil being, not unlike Glint, Gwen and Gaile. Probably has a name that starts with G as well. And it is her that made Shiro go evil in the first place. It seems that he always has been a protector of the people before he met her.
3) Will Shiro be back and fight on the side of good next time? He said: I'll be back in a very Arny kind of way during the last cutscene i think.
Denny Pace
I thought that beating Shiro was much easier than some of the missions leading up to this 'climax'. The items available, especially for casters, were nothing special. In fact, they were of such a quality that one might expect to get the wand *and* the off-hand at the same time.
That being said, the town-wide celebration was ok. I especially enjoyed the 'bees'.
That being said, the town-wide celebration was ok. I especially enjoyed the 'bees'.
floppinghog
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by MoldyRiceFrenzy
wait... where did u find this informaiton out? is it part of the reading section? or in a cutscene or what?
|
its also generally known that if you live your life to a fortune teller that you didn't even pay for your fortune the first time, go back for more see if thats true, come again, get angry and kill the son of a B and expect to be sane? lol
When they say evil has returned - they MEAN the evil has showed itself once again, it has come again -> within someone able to do something horrible -kill the emperor cause plague and abuse all the powers he gains.
even if this isn't the place-
someone should pass it on though: faction's cutscenes all have alot of bugs that sometimes cause voice acting to start later than its supposed to, and the action sometimes has bugged, even the camera angle and motion has bugged for me
(most notable: sometimes bugs >> shiro fights Vizu and then chases her)
another is: when i finished rasiu palace my end cutscene bugged, and RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing togo ran onto the throne and just stood there
(i didnt get to watch him die or get stabbed or...whatever actually happened
(this pisses me off ultra big cause you can't watch ending scenes over again unless you beat the mission again </AGGRAVATED>)
floppinghog
did i mention how many times a cutscene became a job to listen to, when there were monsters left alive? FIX THIS
first time i beat shiro i left some shiroken alive and their damn blades totally screwed over any voices to be heard... so lame
first time i beat shiro i left some shiroken alive and their damn blades totally screwed over any voices to be heard... so lame
Yanman.be
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain
I personally think she is some kind of evil being, not unlike Glint, Gwen and Gaile. Probably has a name that starts with G as well.
|
Markaedw
Factions does have more of a sense of closure, even afterer the 4 titan quests from glint and sorrows furnace golem, there still is no sense of finishing.
In prophecies the king should knight you, honor you, offer the kindom as an heir, some thing that says I beat it, at least give me a freaking medal.
My warrior went straight from the last ring of fire to factions, didn't even finish it.
In prophecies the king should knight you, honor you, offer the kindom as an heir, some thing that says I beat it, at least give me a freaking medal.
My warrior went straight from the last ring of fire to factions, didn't even finish it.
nohooiam
the factions plot put me into a coma.
only thing i recall from finishing the game are the names toga and shiro.
only thing i recall from finishing the game are the names toga and shiro.
generik
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain
Spoiler alert:
I personally found it not surprising at all that Shiro used the emperors half-borther to return, because it had been sais SO MANY times that he was his half-brother. I like it more when I get surprised by storylines. Legacy of Cain anyone? |
The plot holes in this already pathetic weak story are shocking
VGJustice
***SPOILER ALERT (generik, read this)***
Master Togo was accepted into the royal family, and as such was concidered to be of royal blood. After that, he may as well be royal, despite the fact that he doesn't have any coresponding genes. And, besides, magic spells always have backdoors like that, and magic always translates literally. If, by law, Togo was of the royal line, then it doesn't matter if his parents were from Venus, he's royal blood.
Master Togo was accepted into the royal family, and as such was concidered to be of royal blood. After that, he may as well be royal, despite the fact that he doesn't have any coresponding genes. And, besides, magic spells always have backdoors like that, and magic always translates literally. If, by law, Togo was of the royal line, then it doesn't matter if his parents were from Venus, he's royal blood.
Zorian Direspell
Straight from the manual that came with the game:
"Master Togo: Son of the previous Canthan emporer and his beloved concubine, Yuki ..."
Master Togo is the emporer's son. Kisu and Togo have the same father, different mothers.
Back on topic: I found the ending to be the best part of the game's storyline. Looking back on the storyline, I realized that Factions was more like Final Fantasy than Prophecy ... there was no dark betrayal, no hidden evil or moral grey areas. Instead, it was a straight up GvE fight, with a villain who became such through a conflict of conscience. Very FF, really, right down to the comically inept government figures (the ministry).
Unfortunately, I still feel that the quality of the whole storyline was a bit rushed. There really is no reason that Shiro should have either become an Envoy or as evil as he appeared in present day Cantha. Nor is the motivation of the fortune teller, or of the ancient emporer, really ever revealed. So many threads are left dangling, even at the end, that while the artistry of the finale makes it worthwhile, the plot of the storyline fails.
"Master Togo: Son of the previous Canthan emporer and his beloved concubine, Yuki ..."
Master Togo is the emporer's son. Kisu and Togo have the same father, different mothers.
Back on topic: I found the ending to be the best part of the game's storyline. Looking back on the storyline, I realized that Factions was more like Final Fantasy than Prophecy ... there was no dark betrayal, no hidden evil or moral grey areas. Instead, it was a straight up GvE fight, with a villain who became such through a conflict of conscience. Very FF, really, right down to the comically inept government figures (the ministry).
Unfortunately, I still feel that the quality of the whole storyline was a bit rushed. There really is no reason that Shiro should have either become an Envoy or as evil as he appeared in present day Cantha. Nor is the motivation of the fortune teller, or of the ancient emporer, really ever revealed. So many threads are left dangling, even at the end, that while the artistry of the finale makes it worthwhile, the plot of the storyline fails.
Kern Wolf
The ending...not bad, not bad....
But a req. 15 sword?!? yuck! I got the aegis, though, but I gues I have to go through the game again, and hope to get one of the better green swords, or get into the elite missons and try my luck there...
But a req. 15 sword?!? yuck! I got the aegis, though, but I gues I have to go through the game again, and hope to get one of the better green swords, or get into the elite missons and try my luck there...