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Faction: Completely Pointless
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When Anet make another access way to the elite missions the system will be pointless more and more. They have to implement more awarding features for alliances that holding cities (not just alliances that holding capitals)
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Well, in my view, faction is pointless because of anet not really thinking the system through. By having the needed faction points to control a town be uncapped and can continually rise to infinity, you are not encouraging competition for control of towns, rather you are discouraging it. An alliance with only a few 100k faction isn’t going to bother competing with an alliance with a few million, there is no point, the gap is too wide.
Rather if anet set specific faction points needed for control of a town and that faction is actually used up on that alliance gaining control of a town, the system might actually work. Perhaps also put in a time period where someone else can’t try to gain control of the town immediately after your alliance has obtained it.
By removing faction from your alliance when you gain control of a town, and with towns having specific set faction points needed for control, along with an enforced time period of control, you have a somewhat working faction system that encourages competition for towns, even for the lesser alliances cause the towns would have a set faction amount to aim for, that allows these lesser alliances to save up and control them, rather than the silly system in place now in which if your alliance is small you can forget about it.
Rather if anet set specific faction points needed for control of a town and that faction is actually used up on that alliance gaining control of a town, the system might actually work. Perhaps also put in a time period where someone else can’t try to gain control of the town immediately after your alliance has obtained it.
By removing faction from your alliance when you gain control of a town, and with towns having specific set faction points needed for control, along with an enforced time period of control, you have a somewhat working faction system that encourages competition for towns, even for the lesser alliances cause the towns would have a set faction amount to aim for, that allows these lesser alliances to save up and control them, rather than the silly system in place now in which if your alliance is small you can forget about it.
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Originally Posted by trialist
Well, in my view, faction is pointless because of anet not really thinking the system through. By having the needed faction points to control a town be uncapped and can continually rise to infinity, you are not encouraging competition for control of towns, rather you are discouraging it. An alliance with only a few 100k faction isn’t going to bother competing with an alliance with a few million, there is no point, the gap is too wide.
Rather if anet set specific faction points needed for control of a town and that faction is actually used up on that alliance gaining control of a town, the system might actually work. Perhaps also put in a time period where someone else can’t try to gain control of the town immediately after your alliance has obtained it. By removing faction from your alliance when you gain control of a town, and with towns having specific set faction points needed for control, along with an enforced time period of control, you have a somewhat working faction system that encourages competition for towns, even for the lesser alliances cause the towns would have a set faction amount to aim for, that allows these lesser alliances to save up and control them, rather than the silly system in place now in which if your alliance is small you can forget about it. |
1.) Factions capped at X amount
2.) Max faction holders duke it out
3.) Winner lose all faction+holds town for 1 week
4.) Battle resumed after 1 week for a new owner
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Originally Posted by trialist
Well, in my view, faction is pointless because of anet not really thinking the system through. By having the needed faction points to control a town be uncapped and can continually rise to infinity, you are not encouraging competition for control of towns, rather you are discouraging it. An alliance with only a few 100k faction isn’t going to bother competing with an alliance with a few million, there is no point, the gap is too wide.
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1000 factions = 1 gem
Controlling faction needed for town can range from zero to infinity
Faction decay per day = 10%
Potentially infinite money sink!
I made this observation in view of just what a$$holes the traders are (buy at 50 sell at 150? WTF!), in their warped distorted view Anet probably thought they can incite fools into wasting their times for essentially nothing; whatever they've earned would be "decayed" away the next day! Excellent! Keep those suckers hooked forever! They aren't even spending time in game farming for virgoods and fake gold, they are farming for nothing!
Good thing the community has better sense than to fall into their trap
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i recently left TC alliance as it wasnt helpfull i mean all i was doing was donating my faction to keep deep open for everyone and all i was gettting was to go to deep without ferry noone was helping in missions or other players, so i left i can still e in deep through ferry and can use faction even though i dont farm it any more as i dont like the way you pvp it or the way you pve it.
as the pve quests are mundane glitched and easily done with henches or solo
i get bored and begin just farm greens.
pvp faction sucks also..
Hey anet everheard of the saying to many cooks spoil the broth.. 12vs12 is to fast moving and some times slow all you do is ru naround capping shrines trying to run away from 12 touch rangers.
why not have a 4vs4 alliance arena where kurzick and luxon can vs each other for faction of there alliance instead of balthazar faction.
better still have a 1vs1 arena to settle those petty differences
as the pve quests are mundane glitched and easily done with henches or solo
i get bored and begin just farm greens.
pvp faction sucks also..
Hey anet everheard of the saying to many cooks spoil the broth.. 12vs12 is to fast moving and some times slow all you do is ru naround capping shrines trying to run away from 12 touch rangers.
why not have a 4vs4 alliance arena where kurzick and luxon can vs each other for faction of there alliance instead of balthazar faction.
better still have a 1vs1 arena to settle those petty differences
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why not have a 4vs4 alliance arena where kurzick and luxon can vs each other for faction of there alliance instead of balthazar faction. better still have a 1vs1 arena to settle those petty differences |
they'd have to make it pretty random to avoid ppl abusing it though.
Faction used to control a town should be exactly that... used. It goes away and you have control of the town for [n] hours. Might be tough to implement (unless it was automatic... most faction gets "highest" town, faction total goes to zero and on until all towns are owned...)
Yeah... that's it.
After a set period of time, be it 24 hours, 12 hours, whatever... towns are automatically redistributed to the alliences in faction total order. Those alliances are reset to zero faction but have the town for the next 12/24 whatever hours.
Damn, I'm good.
Yeah... that's it.
After a set period of time, be it 24 hours, 12 hours, whatever... towns are automatically redistributed to the alliences in faction total order. Those alliances are reset to zero faction but have the town for the next 12/24 whatever hours.
Damn, I'm good.
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I have to say I agree completly with everything on the OP Post!
However it IS a bit premature.. because we dont know exactly what ANET will do to provide this 'alternative means to access'
It maybe that a guild can pay for access using their faction points?...so if an alliance has 500k they can pay for a days access?
so until we know this 'new method' we cant yet say if it will increase the 'pointlessness' of faction gaining.
But even then!.. I do agree, faction gaining is becoming HARD WORK, and there is very little to show for it.. certainly not worth all the work.
and as has been said.. to control an outpost just for access to the merchant.. bleh, what reward is that?.. nothing really.
However it IS a bit premature.. because we dont know exactly what ANET will do to provide this 'alternative means to access'
It maybe that a guild can pay for access using their faction points?...so if an alliance has 500k they can pay for a days access?
so until we know this 'new method' we cant yet say if it will increase the 'pointlessness' of faction gaining.
But even then!.. I do agree, faction gaining is becoming HARD WORK, and there is very little to show for it.. certainly not worth all the work.
and as has been said.. to control an outpost just for access to the merchant.. bleh, what reward is that?.. nothing really.
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But even then!.. I do agree, faction gaining is becoming HARD WORK, and there is very little to show for it.. certainly not worth all the work.
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I do think we should be able to do MORE things with factions.
Faction speific Weapons, alliance only quests (only in the restricted zones!), alliance only pets (i dont care if its just another pet recolor),
Heck if i become friend of the Luxon, those guys better kneel everytime i talk to them!
Hmm...
Well...
Perhaps if they ranked the alliances on the web page the way they do the GvG guilds?
Maybe if they "open" the elite missions, but make it cost "faction" to get in for anyone not in the controlling faction? (which would be what they have planned)...
You people amaze me that you so quickly throw up complaints with not one suggestion on HOW you would fix it.
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Perhaps if they ranked the alliances on the web page the way they do the GvG guilds?
Maybe if they "open" the elite missions, but make it cost "faction" to get in for anyone not in the controlling faction? (which would be what they have planned)...
You people amaze me that you so quickly throw up complaints with not one suggestion on HOW you would fix it.