ok well great warrior killer,
Attributes:
Fast Casting:16 (12+3+1)
Air Magic: 12
Inspiration: max you can get
Armor:
Enchanters
Skills:
Lightning Orb
Rez signet
Mantra of Recovery {E}
Ether Feast
Air Attunment
optional
optional
optional
Probably a good thing is some things to get more energey, lightning orb is 15 enegery, so you need some stuff, Mantra will recharge the lightning orb to 2 and 1/2 seconds, and theres the 20/20 air staff
great for Random Areanas,HA, and team areanas
Dodgeballer
Runner Of Fate
Eaimirth Etaivella
Lightning strike is far superier to orb in your cause; as you are not going to be spiking. However MoR is not useful in this build when compared to duel attunements, which is not useful when compared to an ele running the same thing+prodigy+heal party...
Just not see'n it.
(especially with 4 inspiration)
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Did you even try this before you posted it?
Just not see'n it.
(especially with 4 inspiration)
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Did you even try this before you posted it?
LightningHell
No snares? No blinding? No weakness? I don't see how this is anti Warrior.
As said above, an Emo Prodigy flashbot would be far more useful.
As said above, an Emo Prodigy flashbot would be far more useful.
Arcanis the Omnipotent
Also, if you use Glyph of Lesser Energy and Lightning Hammer you get the same damage, but since its not a projectile you dont have the chance of missing.
holden
very exciting build.
cutting edge.
please, this is not a flame.
cutting edge.
please, this is not a flame.
Eaimirth Etaivella
Lightning hammer...is uhh no comment.
how about that conjure nightmare? =p
Although it would fit "perfectly" in "this" build lol XD
how about that conjure nightmare? =p
Although it would fit "perfectly" in "this" build lol XD
Dragannia
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Originally Posted by Eaimirth Etaivella
Lightning hammer...is uhh no comment.
how about that conjure nightmare? =p
Although it would fit "perfectly" in "this" build lol XD Dual Enchantments + Hammer = pain. Adds the extra umph to a Mesmer fast cast airspiker.
how about that conjure nightmare? =p
Although it would fit "perfectly" in "this" build lol XD Dual Enchantments + Hammer = pain. Adds the extra umph to a Mesmer fast cast airspiker.
LightningHell
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Originally Posted by Dragannia
Dual Enchantments + Hammer = pain. Adds the extra umph to a Mesmer fast cast airspiker.
Well, this guy doesn't have dual attunes.
Eaimirth Etaivella
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Originally Posted by Dragannia
Dual Enchantments + Hammer = pain. Adds the extra umph to a Mesmer fast cast airspiker.
Funny I thought a elementalist lightning orb would hurt more; although I still do not classify that as pain.
Avarre
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Originally Posted by Eaimirth Etaivella
Funny I thought a elementalist lightning orb would hurt more; although I still do not classify that as pain.
Odd that fc air spike works then 
Hammer is a good skill on dual attune... however no dual attune here. No real energy management... esp. with blind and enervating in optionals. Needs more work.
Hammer is a good skill on dual attune... however no dual attune here. No real energy management... esp. with blind and enervating in optionals. Needs more work.
Eaimirth Etaivella
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Originally Posted by Avarre
Odd that fc air spike works then
Heh of course I still wouldn't classify that as pain.
For a spike to be a spike it has to hurt after all.
Adren spike=spike
Ranger spike=spike
FC air spike=what the hell?
Even for a fc "spike" mesmer I wouldn't consider this on my bar; even with duel attun. Its just too energy intensive. Lightning orb is nothing more than 2 lightning strikes at double the cost. Lightning Hammer is nothing more than these strikes at 5 times this cost...and triple the recharge. Yea real powerful skill Anet; very powerful. Now if it did double the damage it does now...well then we would have a skill worth using. I'm actually surprised anet didn't tack exhuastion onto this skill; seems in their style anyway. Already crappy skill+exhaustion because it costs 25 energy, and some guy felt like it. (Mael/M.Shower/E.Quake etc.) At least Lightning Javelin is spammable.
Heh of course I still wouldn't classify that as pain.For a spike to be a spike it has to hurt after all.
Adren spike=spike
Ranger spike=spike
FC air spike=what the hell?
Even for a fc "spike" mesmer I wouldn't consider this on my bar; even with duel attun. Its just too energy intensive. Lightning orb is nothing more than 2 lightning strikes at double the cost. Lightning Hammer is nothing more than these strikes at 5 times this cost...and triple the recharge. Yea real powerful skill Anet; very powerful. Now if it did double the damage it does now...well then we would have a skill worth using. I'm actually surprised anet didn't tack exhuastion onto this skill; seems in their style anyway. Already crappy skill+exhaustion because it costs 25 energy, and some guy felt like it. (Mael/M.Shower/E.Quake etc.) At least Lightning Javelin is spammable.
Dragannia
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Originally Posted by Eaimirth Etaivella
Heh of course I still wouldn't classify that as pain.
For a spike to be a spike it has to hurt after all.
Adren spike=spike
Ranger spike=spike
FC air spike=what the hell?
Even for a fc "spike" mesmer I wouldn't consider this on my bar; even with duel attun. Its just too energy intensive. Lightning orb is nothing more than 2 lightning strikes at double the cost. Lightning Hammer is nothing more than these strikes at 5 times this cost...and triple the recharge. Yea real powerful skill Anet; very powerful. Now if it did double the damage it does now...well then we would have a skill worth using. I'm actually surprised anet didn't tack exhuastion onto this skill; seems in their style anyway. Already crappy skill+exhaustion because it costs 25 energy, and some guy felt like it. (Mael/M.Shower/E.Quake etc.) At least Lightning Javelin is spammable. It's the very fact that you HAVE a skill which does equal damage to Lightning Orb that makes it so valuable.
Oh, go to Isle and kill something with a FC Mesmer and an Air Elem. They kill things at roughly the same pace. Mesmers have the bonus of being hard to interrupt, but their enchantments can be stripped. Likewise, Air Elems have more energy and dish out more pain, but over a longer period of time, and are vulnerable to interrupts.
For a spike to be a spike it has to hurt after all.
Adren spike=spike
Ranger spike=spike
FC air spike=what the hell?
Even for a fc "spike" mesmer I wouldn't consider this on my bar; even with duel attun. Its just too energy intensive. Lightning orb is nothing more than 2 lightning strikes at double the cost. Lightning Hammer is nothing more than these strikes at 5 times this cost...and triple the recharge. Yea real powerful skill Anet; very powerful. Now if it did double the damage it does now...well then we would have a skill worth using. I'm actually surprised anet didn't tack exhuastion onto this skill; seems in their style anyway. Already crappy skill+exhaustion because it costs 25 energy, and some guy felt like it. (Mael/M.Shower/E.Quake etc.) At least Lightning Javelin is spammable. It's the very fact that you HAVE a skill which does equal damage to Lightning Orb that makes it so valuable.
Oh, go to Isle and kill something with a FC Mesmer and an Air Elem. They kill things at roughly the same pace. Mesmers have the bonus of being hard to interrupt, but their enchantments can be stripped. Likewise, Air Elems have more energy and dish out more pain, but over a longer period of time, and are vulnerable to interrupts.
LightningHell
They both have their weaknesses; I would use neither.
Avarre
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Originally Posted by Eaimirth Etaivella
For a spike to be a spike it has to hurt after all.
Adren spike=spike
Ranger spike=spike
FC air spike=what the hell? Now you're just being ignorant.
Orb is 2 strikes at triple the cost by the way, which is a fair trade. Hammer has the advantage of being instant, though it could use a reduction in cost.
Adren spike=spike
Ranger spike=spike
FC air spike=what the hell? Now you're just being ignorant.
Orb is 2 strikes at triple the cost by the way, which is a fair trade. Hammer has the advantage of being instant, though it could use a reduction in cost.
LightningHell
Air spike is viable; it's just pretty energy intensive, or it's pretty fragile.
Eaimirth Etaivella
Sorry you're right triple the cost; just seem to have lost track in my rambling. I have to agree with Lightning I would use neither. If I had to take one it would be an ele/mo for prodigy, heal party and deep freeze...of course none of these are "spike skills" add the non spike skills e charge and blinding flash...
all of this is just warrior hate...
all of this is just warrior hate...
LightningHell
Add Orb for some spike capability.
fatboyslimerr
Lightning Orb is a bag of S**** imo, mainly because if you realise your being spiked (which I know you might not always), its just a simple case of running left and quickly changing direction making them loose 15 energy (or 4 with duel attunes) with no negative affect to you. L. Strike is better + Enervating Charge as these can't be dodged like that + causes weakness.
I realise most of the time orb will be useable but if you added up the number of times it missed in a whole GvG battle it would probably make you think twice about using it again. I would think spamming L. Strike over time would do more damage than orb due to its undodgeable status, could be wrong though. If you want to be anti warrior don't leave home without blinding flash
I realise most of the time orb will be useable but if you added up the number of times it missed in a whole GvG battle it would probably make you think twice about using it again. I would think spamming L. Strike over time would do more damage than orb due to its undodgeable status, could be wrong though. If you want to be anti warrior don't leave home without blinding flash
Avarre
Fc air spike in GvG generally uses gale first for KD (can't dodge) or fires at a target that isn't moving. But in arena, yeah, it's not that great (though with attunes missing doesn't matter).
Dragannia
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Originally Posted by fatboyslimerr
Lightning Orb is a bag of S**** imo, mainly because if you realise your being spiked (which I know you might not always), its just a simple case of running left and quickly changing direction making them loose 15 energy (or 4 with duel attunes) with no negative affect to you. L. Strike is better + Enervating Charge as these can't be dodged like that + causes weakness.
I realise most of the time orb will be useable but if you added up the number of times it missed in a whole GvG battle it would probably make you think twice about using it again. I would think spamming L. Strike over time would do more damage than orb due to its undodgeable status, could be wrong though. If you want to be anti warrior don't leave home without blinding flash
In Arenas, they won't really know they're being spiked until too late. Orb first, then Hammer, Strike, Charge. They latter 3 skills don't miss.
I realise most of the time orb will be useable but if you added up the number of times it missed in a whole GvG battle it would probably make you think twice about using it again. I would think spamming L. Strike over time would do more damage than orb due to its undodgeable status, could be wrong though. If you want to be anti warrior don't leave home without blinding flash
In Arenas, they won't really know they're being spiked until too late. Orb first, then Hammer, Strike, Charge. They latter 3 skills don't miss.
Eaimirth Etaivella
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Originally Posted by Dragannia
In Arenas, they won't really know they're being spiked until too late. Orb first, then Hammer, Strike, Charge. They latter 3 skills don't miss.
And we calmly wait for the boonprot to cast rof and render the entire thing worthless. Gale will not stop a boonprot; prot spirit will stop your spike.
4 out of every 5 games will have a boonprot in them in the arenas or so it seems.
4 out of every 5 games will have a boonprot in them in the arenas or so it seems.
robrobrob
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Originally Posted by Eaimirth Etaivella
And we calmly wait for the boonprot to cast rof and render the entire thing worthless. Gale will not stop a boonprot; prot spirit will stop your spike.
4 out of every 5 games will have a boonprot in them in the arenas or so it seems. What if you Gale the boonprot?
I know, who would do such a thing?
4 out of every 5 games will have a boonprot in them in the arenas or so it seems. What if you Gale the boonprot?
I know, who would do such a thing?
Eaimirth Etaivella
Then you attempt to kill it within 3 seconds and fail; as soon as the boon prot saw you cast gale, pro spirit would fly up as well. Assuming you then cast orb, like you said, they would be up before you started to cast hammer. You have dealt the monk 45 damage. Congratulations; the monk is now, very, dead. /sarcasm
LightningHell
Why don't people just use the damn Flashbot?
Avarre
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Originally Posted by Eaimirth Etaivella
Then you attempt to kill it within 3 seconds and fail; as soon as the boon prot saw you cast gale, pro spirit would fly up as well. Assuming you then cast orb, like you said, they would be up before you started to cast hammer. You have dealt the monk 45 damage. Congratulations; the monk is now, very, dead. /sarcasm
I was bored once and ran 3 me/e air spikers in TA with a boon monk. It was funny seeing them lol at us before getting galed down and killed before they stood up. You also bring drain enchant to remove said prot spirit once they learn to preprot.
LightningHell
I usually try to time the Drain to be ~0.75 seconds before the spike.
Gaze of Contempt, or Rend Enchantments if it's not in Arenas. But I don't usually spike anyways. :P
Gaze of Contempt, or Rend Enchantments if it's not in Arenas. But I don't usually spike anyways. :P
Avarre
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. Only 1 healer usually, after all.
Eaimirth Etaivella
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Originally Posted by Avarre
I was bored once and ran 3 me/e air spikers in TA with a boon monk. It was funny seeing them lol at us before getting galed down and killed before they stood up. You also bring drain enchant to remove said prot spirit once they learn to preprot.
Hopefully I will be dead and gone before the build being discussed in this thread makes it to TA. I suspected this was RA material and made my comment in regards to such.