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SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

31 May 2006 at 10:42 - 1

Here's the catch: I want a SS of the map and the name of the boss that has it in CANTHA

Ferocious Strike is a core skill, but it seems it can't be found in Cantha (yet), or no one took the trouble of reporting the boss to both GuildWiki and Xennon's Elite skill list. I haven't encountered a boss with the skill either.

Seeing as someone put a bounty on whoever found Assassin's Promise, I thought I'd do the same.

Oh, and the bounty is off when ANet adds the skill of course.

Sidenote: I own both Prophecies and Factions, and I already have it. Just wanted to let people know this skill isn't available yet, or if it is, to make it become public where to find it.

Shantel Span

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Knights of King Thorn [Mad]

A/N

31 May 2006 at 13:05 - 2

Having a serious beastmaster ranger, I would take up the challenge...but I already have it

good luck!

(Enraged Lunge > Ferocious Strike)

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

27 Jun 2006 at 04:33 - 3

This is a thing I noticed recently, there is no known Canthan boss with the skill. Maybe they forgot to include the boss, or gave it the wrong elite?

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

27 Jun 2006 at 05:35 - 4

As a dedicated beastmaster, I'd argue against Enraged Lunge being better, but as that's not the topic, I just have to say, sorry. I haven't seen a boss use that skill in Cantha.

TideSwayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Farm Your [?????????s]

27 Jun 2006 at 05:41 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curse You

This is a thing I noticed recently, there is no known Canthan boss with the skill. Maybe they forgot to include the boss, or gave it the wrong elite?

Nice planning, ANet.

Tark Alkerk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Black Hole

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27 Jun 2006 at 05:49 - 6

although ferocisous strike is a core skill a according to my sources (guildwiki)
there is no boss with it in factions, so if u only own factions your just going to have to wait till anet fix it.
and ferocisous strike is much better on a bunny.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Ferocious_Strike

Lets Get to Healing

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

You want see?

True Gods of War [True]

Mo/W

27 Jun 2006 at 06:06 - 7

w00tsauce more skills with no bosses.

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

27 Jun 2006 at 08:11 - 8

I looked at the Canthan ranger bosses, and only one boss stands out as being an unessicary holder of an elite. Daeman has the elite Broad Head Arrow, and yet two bosses come before him with the same elite (both aflicted).

As well, Daeman's team is the only one in the Boreas Seabed mission with pets (crabs

). So I would hazard to guess that Daeman was supposed to have Ferocious Strike, as it would plainly make sense.

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

27 Jun 2006 at 08:36 - 9

There is also a chance that it's a random boss, who doesn't appear every time when you pass his spot.

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

27 Jun 2006 at 08:38 - 10

First of all, none of the Factions bosses do that.

Second, there is one boss who for some reason now spawns twice in the same spot. Maybe they did something like that (only reversed) for this boss.

Sentao Nugra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Crystal Lake, Illinois

Grenths Rejects [GR]

27 Jun 2006 at 10:44 - 11

There is a beastmaster boss outside of Kurzick Jade Flats, not sure what elite though.

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

27 Jun 2006 at 10:46 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentao Nugra

There is a beastmaster boss outside of Kurzick Jade Flats, not sure what elite though.

Heal as One.

Aarroe of Gilgamesh

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Friedberg, Germany

We Came, We Saw, We Drank [Tea]

27 Jun 2006 at 16:20 - 13

this has been noted in a couple of threads. i have personally sent 3 bug reports into a-net back before assassins promised was finally put in. the response i got was something automated about developers taki9ng all suggestions under consideration, but after the third report they added assassin's promise, and i didn't care enough about ferocious strike to keep bugging them. i think everyone else already got it from prophecies anyways, so they didn't get as much fan mail off this one and gave up on it as well.

death fuzzy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Nefarius Union

27 Jun 2006 at 16:22 - 14

not every elite can be found in cantha...

so your bounty is pointless.

This is not a programming error. Anet does this to force you into buying prophecies.

Aarroe of Gilgamesh

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Friedberg, Germany

We Came, We Saw, We Drank [Tea]

27 Jun 2006 at 16:36 - 15

@deathfuzzy this post is there because ferocious strike is listed as a CORE skill core skills are capeable of being captured on both continents, ie hundred blades, echo, signet of judgement, etc. ferocious stike SHOULD be capeable of being captured in cantha which it is not at the present time.

Rent

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Darkness Within

Mo/Me

27 Jun 2006 at 16:37 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by death fuzzy

not every elite can be found in cantha...

so your bounty is pointless.

This is not a programming error. Anet does this to force you into buying prophecies.

Except that Ferocious Strike is core, and as such, is supposed to be in Cantha.

Fyre Brand

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Shadowlight Order [SoR]

27 Jun 2006 at 16:55 - 17

I must be missing something. Where is it listed as a core skill? I went to the Guild Wars site and read through the ranger skills. Nowhere there could I find a list that was the core skills list.

Rent

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Darkness Within

Mo/Me

27 Jun 2006 at 16:58 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fyre Brand

I must be missing something. Where is it listed as a core skill? I went to the Guild Wars site and read through the ranger skills. Nowhere there could I find a list that was the core skills list.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Ferocious_Strike

Also, go roll a PVP character--on the PVP char creation screen, choose to sort by campaign. Ferocious Strike is listed under Core.

Fyre Brand

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Shadowlight Order [SoR]

27 Jun 2006 at 17:06 - 19

Well guild wiki isn't always accurate so I'm not taking that for a reason it's a core skill, but if it's listed under the pvp character as a core skill then that would make sense.

Macktar Wang

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

27 Jun 2006 at 17:35 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curse You

Second, there is one boss who for some reason now spawns twice in the same spot. Maybe they did something like that (only reversed) for this boss.

Actually, I found a second boss that double-spawns in the same spot. A mesmer at that, and their respective mobs can't be separated by pulling. But that is beside the point.

I'm willing to bet this gets fixed in the coming weeks when they get enough other minor bugs to fix, warranting another update.

My Sweet Revenga

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

27 Jun 2006 at 19:15 - 21

Only beast mastery elite skill I can ever remember is from that guy in explorable closer to the stars area, nahpui quarter I think. Pretty sure it's not ferocious lunge though. As for whether the skill is core, if you got that info from guildwiki I wouldn't trust it 100% since guildwiki isn't always right about some stuff. One way to find out is if somebody with a ranger who has the skill can open up their skill list and toggle the skill order arrangement. I think there's an option to list by campaign and I think the sections are tyrian, canthan, and core (or prophecies, factions, and core I can't remember). If it shows up in core, then ANET should be informed. If it shows up under prophecies/tyrian, then you have your answer and you'll need to buy the 1st game.

Rogmar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

W/

27 Jun 2006 at 19:17 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Sweet Revenga

Only beast mastery elite skill I can ever remember is from that guy in explorable closer to the stars area, nahpui quarter I think. Pretty sure it's not ferocious lunge though. As for whether the skill is core, if you got that info from guildwiki I wouldn't trust it 100% since guildwiki isn't always right about some stuff.

The Core/Prophecies/Factions list came from Anet/Guild Wars.

Ventius Hozza

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

London, UK

Powerpuff Boys [PUFF]

R/

27 Jun 2006 at 19:22 - 23

Outside Amatz Basin, Darkroot spawns twice, but the second one used to be an ele boss.

Just a heads-up

Midnight Scorpion

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

None

Mo/

27 Jun 2006 at 19:49 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curse You

I looked at the Canthan ranger bosses, and only one boss stands out as being an unessicary holder of an elite. Daeman has the elite Broad Head Arrow, and yet two bosses come before him with the same elite (both aflicted).

As well, Daeman's team is the only one in the Boreas Seabed mission with pets (crabs

). So I would hazard to guess that Daeman was supposed to have Ferocious Strike, as it would plainly make sense.

Then why would he become an interrupt hench?

Draygo Korvan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/Me

27 Jun 2006 at 20:52 - 25

Because you killed his pet.

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

27 Jun 2006 at 21:44 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Sweet Revenga

As for whether the skill is core, if you got that info from guildwiki I wouldn't trust it 100% since guildwiki isn't always right about some stuff.

I take offence at that, go look at priest of balthazar before you slander..

Fyre Brand

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Shadowlight Order [SoR]

27 Jun 2006 at 22:12 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuld

I take offence at that, go look at priest of balthazar before you slander..

Why would you take offense? No one is 100% right all the time. GuildWiki is a great source and like all wikis is an ongoing update. We don't have all the information about prophecies or factions and not everything everyone provides is always right. Having the pvp list state it as core is an official source saying it's so, therefore it's really the most reliable. Don't take it personally if you work on that site. The staff there does a great job but is by no means responsible for 100% accuracy.

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

28 Jun 2006 at 03:28 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ventius Hozza

Outside Amatz Basin, Darkroot spawns twice, but the second one used to be an ele boss.

Just a heads-up

That was the one I was thinking of. I was just using that as an example.

Guardian Rohan

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

[MEEP] -SMS alliance

A/

28 Jun 2006 at 04:00 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by death fuzzy

not every elite can be found in cantha...

so your bounty is pointless.

This is not a programming error. Anet does this to force you into buying prophecies.

they dont force u into buying it dude.....when u buy factions, it already has prophecies in it. All you have to do is travel there on wutever character u have.

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

28 Jun 2006 at 04:05 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guardian Rohan

they dont force u into buying it dude.....when u buy factions, it already has prophecies in it. All you have to do is travel there on wutever character u have.

Basically, this whole post is wrong.

Phoenix Arrows

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

With many other ugly people

We Are All Pretty [ugly]

R/

28 Jun 2006 at 04:27 - 31

Agreed. Faction's is a standalone, therefore, it does not need Prophecies to function, therefore Faction's comes by itself.

death fuzzy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Nefarius Union

28 Jun 2006 at 06:26 - 32

Big deal if its a core skill

Go to prophecies and cap it...

And if you are going to say you didnt buy it, then you're just missing out.

samifly

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Girl Power [GP]

Mo/Me

28 Jun 2006 at 07:59 - 33

It *is* a big deal - maybe not for this chapter, but when theres 5 chapters+ are you reasonably going to expect everyone to have all of them? Its a core skill it has to be in all chapters, or the whole point of core skills is gone. Mabye in chapter 3 they will forget to add a barrage boss, will you be telling people to not care then?

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

28 Jun 2006 at 14:57 - 34

Wow, I was going to let it die due to the faint responses I got when I first posted, and now it's back up.

Anyway:
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/7421/fer4yq.jpg

Sorted skills by Campaign as you can see, Core skills are listed on top and I had to scroll down just a bit since it wouldn't fit. So, Ferocious Strike SHOULD be in but isn't. GuildWiki is wrong sometimes, but they're right now.

Beastmaster bosses in game:
Royen Beastkeeper: in Nahpui Quarter explorable, has Enraged Lunge
Salke Fur Friend, outside Jade Flats (Kurzick Side), has Heal as One
Chehbaba Roottriper, has Beastmaster skills, usesTrapper's Focus as an Elite, does not have pets near him to charm, giving him an pretty useless skillset (Uses Viper's Nest as only skill)

There are no other Ranger bosses that have/use Beastmaster skills (Ryver Mossplanter has Lacerate which is linked to BM, but uses no real pet skills).

Quote:

Originally Posted by death fuzzy

Big deal if its a core skill

Go to prophecies and cap it...

And if you are going to say you didnt buy it, then you're just missing out.

The whole point of Core skills is that they are available in all chapters.

Rogmar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

W/

28 Jun 2006 at 16:08 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draygo Korvan

Because you killed his pet.

The pets are from the support rangers...the Luxon Rangers. Notice how there are 2 elder crabs and at the same time 2 Luxon Rangers.
He doesn't have Charm Animal on his skillbar either...Daeman

Estic

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mongoose United

29 Jun 2006 at 12:42 - 36

I think the whole idea was for Aurora to have a pet. Did you notice how she keeps on saying sometihng along the lines of: "Hector's hungry, can you feed him?", "Dont eat that Hector, its bad for you stomach" (or something along that lines). If a hench has a beastmaster skill it would probably be Aurora.

Edit: This is when you take her as a hench later on, dont know what she says in the Boreas mission.

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

29 Jun 2006 at 15:24 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estic

I think the whole idea was for Aurora to have a pet. Did you notice how she keeps on saying sometihng along the lines of: "Hector's hungry, can you feed him?", "Dont eat that Hector, its bad for you stomach" (or something along that lines). If a hench has a beastmaster skill it would probably be Aurora.

Edit: This is when you take her as a hench later on, dont know what she says in the Boreas mission.

Aurora doesn't have Beastmaster skills either, however I do agree FS would probably be found in the Luxon Areas, since Luxon Rangers have Charm Animal, same goes for Yeti. In the city/Kurzick areas, the beastmaster bosses are the only ones in their specie/group that have Charm Animal.

I'd actually have prefered seeing a Beastmaster hench, instead of Aurora now (have never taken her into the group TBH)

Scutilla

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Tyrian Explorers League

R/P

29 Jun 2006 at 21:49 - 38

Kinda like how Su tells monster's how they'll "make a fine minion", when she's never raised a minion in her life >.>

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

29 Jun 2006 at 22:28 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix Arrows

Agreed. Faction's is a standalone, therefore, it does not need Prophecies to function, therefore Faction's comes by itself.

I think the confusion stems from the fact the data files has both games in it but you have to have the access keys to actually use both. Still trying to figure out why anet doesn't intelligently download content based on keys yet..

(All)
Core Package

(Based off key)
(C1) Tyria Files
(C2) Factions

Nvwa Strider

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/

30 Jun 2006 at 09:43 - 40

i found him.

They just patched the hero in the factions game.