Probably all necros are familiar with this problem. In the middle of the fray you have very difficult time selecting your minions. Especially when they are not visible via Alt (nor Ctrl).
The new icon that shows your number of minions is usefull (especially in the big battles when you cannot see them.
So, my sugestion is that when you click the icon to select one of the minions, click again select the next and so on. This will allow very swift use of skills like death nova, taste of death, even other non necro skills (for some builds).
Interface: Necro minion selection
Arcador
demon dantes
what i would like to see is a screen for them as rangers do with pets. not sure if they could do something like this as for it would only show up on your screen but maybe something close to it.
generik
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Originally Posted by demon dantes
what i would like to see is a screen for them as rangers do with pets. not sure if they could do something like this as for it would only show up on your screen but maybe something close to it.
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Good idea, I hope they will change it so we see minions under the party list as "Allies"
Arcador
well 10 minions can flood it
Nitradamus
It would only have to be half the lenght of the party list.
/signed
/signed
Fred Kiwi
just have a small box with lots of little small boxes in it with health bars and numbers on it
Undivine
I think the OP's suggestion is very elegant. Would you mind if I link this thread in the Index? The suggestion for better minion selection is already there, but it doesn't have a thread for discussion.
beleg curudin
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3174/mm4il.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2034/mm22pt.jpg
Here is something that I think would work extremely nicely.
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2034/mm22pt.jpg
Here is something that I think would work extremely nicely.
Arcador
Undivine no problem, go ahead, I will be happy 
Janus_Zeal
/signed
Hope the mods are happy, I actually dug up this thread before trying to make one of my own.
I'd like to see a seperate interface pannel with a list of your minions, and you would be able to select them from there. I suppose this could also pertain to spirits as well. The big problem is where would they put it (by default)? I've fully customized my interface and have numberous places where I can set something like that though.
Hope the mods are happy, I actually dug up this thread before trying to make one of my own.
I'd like to see a seperate interface pannel with a list of your minions, and you would be able to select them from there. I suppose this could also pertain to spirits as well. The big problem is where would they put it (by default)? I've fully customized my interface and have numberous places where I can set something like that though.
BahamutKaiser
Yes, this would be the simplest and least cumbersome solution, I would like to see some sort of interface that allows us to select our minions faster.
I don't like the idea of having a window with all our minions in it, with 8 people in your party the window is basicly full, add any Mission allies and it is full, and that doesn't account for any members who may have brought pets, 2 or 4 of those can easily scroll the longest party menus. Having a your minions show up in the party menu would be crazy, and even in your own personal menu, you would not be able to see all of them unless you scrolled down, and in a seperate menu it would take up too much room.
A very small streamlined menu which had very small Minion icons or tiny health bars might not be bad, but the OP suggestion is plenty.
I don't like the idea of having a window with all our minions in it, with 8 people in your party the window is basicly full, add any Mission allies and it is full, and that doesn't account for any members who may have brought pets, 2 or 4 of those can easily scroll the longest party menus. Having a your minions show up in the party menu would be crazy, and even in your own personal menu, you would not be able to see all of them unless you scrolled down, and in a seperate menu it would take up too much room.
A very small streamlined menu which had very small Minion icons or tiny health bars might not be bad, but the OP suggestion is plenty.
TadaceAce
hell I would settle for another party menu just for your minions
xiaotsu
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Originally Posted by beleg curudin
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3174/mm4il.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2034/mm22pt.jpg Here is something that I think would work extremely nicely. |
Hate having to hurry and target the one I want once they spawn, it's annoying
/signed
bilateralrope
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Originally Posted by beleg curudin
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3174/mm4il.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2034/mm22pt.jpg Here is something that I think would work extremely nicely. |
/signed for any way to make minion targeting eaiser that doesn't crowd up the screen for anyone else.
lansid_drakken
I'm definetly for some sort of interface for minion selection. Even if it's being able to macro a key on the keyboard under your "Control Setup" in options. Then there'd be the question of....
1. Should you just be able to select/cycle thru your own minions?
2. Should you just be able to select/cycle thru all your parties minions?
3. Would a macroable key thru control setup work better, or just being able to click on the minion icon (left-click for previous minion, right click for next)
4. If go the "click on minion icon" route, should each "set" of minions have it's own "minion icon" to cycle thru? (to be able to death nova more effectively certain minions rather than cycling thru 9 to get to the one you want before it croaks).
4.5 Or stay with the seperate minion icons, and as well give each seperate minion it's own visible lifebar/percentage # over the icons?
5. Somewhat change the customize layout feature so you can check on/off a "minion party window" on the left side?
This of course could be taken outside of just "necros" and done for sprits, timers or traps and when they get triggered, and probably more that I'm not even thinking about yet...
But I'd think that anet wouldn't mind doing something along these lines, especially since they reduced the number of total minions per person to 10 and even put a "total number" on the icon. So it is possible to keep track of them, and I wouldn't think it'd be so difficult to at least make a party window for temporary things like minions, spirits, traps, ect.
/signed
1. Should you just be able to select/cycle thru your own minions?
2. Should you just be able to select/cycle thru all your parties minions?
3. Would a macroable key thru control setup work better, or just being able to click on the minion icon (left-click for previous minion, right click for next)
4. If go the "click on minion icon" route, should each "set" of minions have it's own "minion icon" to cycle thru? (to be able to death nova more effectively certain minions rather than cycling thru 9 to get to the one you want before it croaks).
4.5 Or stay with the seperate minion icons, and as well give each seperate minion it's own visible lifebar/percentage # over the icons?
5. Somewhat change the customize layout feature so you can check on/off a "minion party window" on the left side?
This of course could be taken outside of just "necros" and done for sprits, timers or traps and when they get triggered, and probably more that I'm not even thinking about yet...
But I'd think that anet wouldn't mind doing something along these lines, especially since they reduced the number of total minions per person to 10 and even put a "total number" on the icon. So it is possible to keep track of them, and I wouldn't think it'd be so difficult to at least make a party window for temporary things like minions, spirits, traps, ect.
/signed
Chaco Nautzi
/signed
This would help me a great deal
I also like belegs idea for it ^^
I would like it if it told you what type of minion you're selecting too, or maybe even show their health? This way you can find your Fleshy in Alliance Battles.
This would help me a great deal
I also like belegs idea for it ^^
I would like it if it told you what type of minion you're selecting too, or maybe even show their health? This way you can find your Fleshy in Alliance Battles.
lansid_drakken
Yes it'd be nice to actually "see" how the minions are doing rather than spamming BotM hoping they're staying alive while not killing yourself. Yes I know there are ways "around" that... but just in health/energy management it'd make managing minions and your energy more efficient.. and perhaps even be able to break away from static MM builds if you can manage things better.
Ecklipze
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Originally Posted by beleg curudin
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3174/mm4il.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2034/mm22pt.jpg Here is something that I think would work extremely nicely. |
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sdliddo
i love this idea. Would be a nice thing to get things ordered up with my minions. Hahahaha..
archangel04
How about also changing that damn "# Minions" at the top to something more usefull like 1 box for each type of minion you have? I mean I don't know about you but in big battles it would be nice to know just how many bone horrors or fiends or my only Flesh Golem I have since you need a good balance of ranged and melee minions with you to be more effective. And yes the total of all the boxes would still add up to ten and since I am sure most of us players have passed grade 2 the adding up to see if you have 10 minions should not take too long!
lansid_drakken
Yeah, the interface images supplied by beleg would be great. Perhaps the only two things I'd suggest would be
1. a constant mini health bar across each minion icon, so you could at least keep tabs on all minions health at a glance rather than having to cycle each one to check health
2. Specific minion icons for each minion class, So I can tell where my bone minions are to cast death nova on, and where my flesh golem is for smitebombs, ect
I can't speak for everyone, but myself I play as zoomed out as possible so I can see as much of the battle as I can, and though the itty bitty health bars above the minions are better than nothing... trying to squint to see the health of your minions thru moving players and mobs makes my eyes bleed sometime... ok a lot. Then there's the fun of trying to select a minion in a battle... There would probably be less cookie cutter MM builds if it was made easier to manage minions.
1. a constant mini health bar across each minion icon, so you could at least keep tabs on all minions health at a glance rather than having to cycle each one to check health
2. Specific minion icons for each minion class, So I can tell where my bone minions are to cast death nova on, and where my flesh golem is for smitebombs, ect
I can't speak for everyone, but myself I play as zoomed out as possible so I can see as much of the battle as I can, and though the itty bitty health bars above the minions are better than nothing... trying to squint to see the health of your minions thru moving players and mobs makes my eyes bleed sometime... ok a lot. Then there's the fun of trying to select a minion in a battle... There would probably be less cookie cutter MM builds if it was made easier to manage minions.
GrandWarLord
/signed
This is a great idea and would be a big help. My necro would be eternally gratefull...
This is a great idea and would be a big help. My necro would be eternally gratefull...
cup-o-noodles
/signed.
Wonder Widget
I started another post at : http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...=1#post1531856
because i didn't know this thread existed, but i am all for it
because i didn't know this thread existed, but i am all for it
Joh
I was thinking something like the player lists in observe mode (the list of both team's players at the bottom right) for minions. Of course resizable like everything else, so you can keep it from clogging your view.
/signed
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fezpenguino
/Signed
God's Will
signed
Chaco Nautzi
So no one really disagrees with this idea?
If no, then I say *bump*
but, I was just wondering....Does anyone actually see the good posts before they like....expire....?
If no, then I say *bump*
but, I was just wondering....Does anyone actually see the good posts before they like....expire....?
Tukmolytes
Finally, someone re wrote my petition almost 3 months ago
/signed
/signed
Lady Lozza
/signed
To add to this I would also love a management item (similar to this) for spirits. I'd love to be able to click a "box" rather than have to pick through the mass of spirits I've just put up.
To add to this I would also love a management item (similar to this) for spirits. I'd love to be able to click a "box" rather than have to pick through the mass of spirits I've just put up.
Slainster
/signed it would be highly beneficial, c'mon Anet listen to us please!
Caged Fury
/Signed
This is a great idea. It would really help me look after my collection of decaying meat.
This is a great idea. It would really help me look after my collection of decaying meat.
Monz
/signed.
Noob question: what is that group of small square icons under the experience bar in Beleg's image? Is it a third party program?
Noob question: what is that group of small square icons under the experience bar in Beleg's image? Is it a third party program?
David Lionmaster
I think that a minion selection interface would be great.
/signed, just as long as I get more detailed information about my warthog Jr Fluffles.
/signed, just as long as I get more detailed information about my warthog Jr Fluffles.
Cherng Butter
/signed
this would be so convienient and fun, though i can live without it (I just spam botm like an idiot and look at green bars above my spread out minions)
i tried minion bombing for killing kuuvanang, and lets just say i failed miserably (though teh rest of my group pulled thru and go masters for me XD)
this would be so convienient and fun, though i can live without it (I just spam botm like an idiot and look at green bars above my spread out minions)
i tried minion bombing for killing kuuvanang, and lets just say i failed miserably (though teh rest of my group pulled thru and go masters for me XD)
Turbobusa
signed, instead of minions #
Shendaar
/Signed
Minions can be such a pain to select.
Minions can be such a pain to select.
Carinae
An interface would be great, but even a 'Next Minion' and 'Previous Minion' keys would help tremendously.
Frosty the Pyro
/sighned
I am trying to build a Rt/N minion bomber (using explosive growth, bone minions, and death nova) and it can be realy dificult to select a minion and cast death nova before it dies, even with spawning power's extra health to em.
I am trying to build a Rt/N minion bomber (using explosive growth, bone minions, and death nova) and it can be realy dificult to select a minion and cast death nova before it dies, even with spawning power's extra health to em.
_gumby_
an elite skill like yellow border on the minion couter would be nice, if you have a flesh golem "alive"...
that way you could know right away, when to make a new one
that way you could know right away, when to make a new one